If this were an appointment that were committed to a public election, then there would indeed be grounds for complaints of interference. As it was one left to the complete discretion of the ALAC, which made no promise to consider rosters of candidates, I don't understand the accusations. You may wish to seek changes to the ICANN bylaws, or to the operating procedures of the RALO or the ALAC, but I don't see how attacking the individuals helps understand either what went wrong or what needs to be changed. For example: the current structure gives the NA RALO no binding power, such that its representatives were free to go beyond the NA RALO in selecting and evaluating nominees for the NomCom, and so they sought advice from multiple sources and ultimately made their own recommendations. Since that process left NA participants feeling disenfranchised, let's find a way to improve both communications and the structural participation of NA participants in the ALAC processes. Perhaps procedures should be changed so NA ALAC reps are bound to follow recommendations from the NARALO, as Darlene has suggested we look to LACRALO. Perhaps the RALO should develop a procedure by which it can indicate its [consensus, majority, other] commands to ALAC representatives. I'm hardly trying to bury the issue. I'm hoping it can yet be a source of progress rather than mere argumentation. --Wendy Danny Younger wrote:
Wendy,
As Robert on the NCUC list has revealed that you were one of the parties consulted in a process that led to the removal of a candidate from the voting roster, I can understand why you might wish to bury the issue.
Sorry, but electoral fraud, an illegal interference with the process of an election, is a serious matter that can't just be swept under the carpet like it never happened. Removing a candidate from the roster for no legitimate reason is illegal interference. It should not be condoned on the pretext of needing to move on.
regards, Danny
--- Wendy Seltzer <wendy@seltzer.com> wrote:
Danny,
As you have always been one of the strongest voices in counseling us to focus on policy rather than infighting, I hope you will also help us to leave behind personal attacks and work with us to make the ALAC more responsive to the at-large community. With work, I hope we can minimize such feelings of miscommunication in the future.
Thanks, --Wendy
Danny Younger wrote:
Robert Guerra on the NARALO discussion list has revealed that "Consultations were done with key people active on the NA list as well as those in ICANN. Consultations were done privately on a one-to-one basis."
These consultations with "those in ICANN" resulted in a duly nominated and confirmed candidate being removed from the voting roster.
I find it highly disturbing that elected members of the NARALO feel at liberty to consult with "those in ICANN" without engaging in any consultation with those in the NARALO membership.
Who are "those in ICANN" that were consulted? Are ICANN Board members or ICANN Staff complicit in a process to rig the ALAC elections? Or is Robert referring to others? It is his wish that those consultations remain privileged.
We deserve a full investigation into this matter. I remain of the view that a legitimate candidate was treatly unfairly and that at the very least the Ombudsman should be called in to review this matter.
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