I'll let Thomas answer more authoritatively to this question, but for the completeness of information I would like to add a historic point of view. Once upon a time, there was the General Assembly list (GA). Some folks on that list claimed that it was the voice of the people. However, the noise/signal ratio was incredibly high. Most postings were signed "Jeff Williams", and were in large part off topic. When ALAC was being formed, in 2006, I was elected ALAC Liaison to the Board, and there were discussions about representativity of ALAC. My claim was that, although ALAC was in formation phase, the content and weight of the discussion in the At-Large lists was much more important than what was happening in the GA. Please be aware that I had emotional links with the GA, of which I have been the first elected chairperson, back in 2000 or 2001: I am convinced that way back it had a function and the discussions were lively and useful, but in time the debate had fallen to abysmal level. So my point was that the At-Large lists were widely more relevant for the participation of the general public to ICANN activities. Thomas, who was at that time also a Board Liaison, and interested in the inclusiveness of the ICANN processes, started keeping weekly statistics of the traffic on the GA and ALAC public lists, to support this claim. This has been going on until nowadays. Incidentally, the statistics on the GA were also carried on, showing that with the disappearance of Jeff Williams there is only a message every couple of months or so by George Kirikos, and the weekly report of Thomas himself. Personally, I believe that the primary purpose of these statistics is now no longer interesting: the GA is dead, although not yet formally closed, and the At-Large is the established mailing list for At-Large participants, so it could be discontinued without prejudice for ALAC. On the other hand, for the sake of confidentiality and European data protection laws, may I observe that the At-Large list is hosted in the US by ICANN, and publicly available, so all the statistics that Thomas keeps are based on data that are publicly available and hosted in the US anyway. This just for completeness of information, as this
-----Messaggio originale----- Da: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large- bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di Subrenat, Jean-Jacques Inviato: venerdì 31 gennaio 2014 09:12 A: At-Large Worldwide Oggetto: Re: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge- lists.icann.org
Hello Thomas,
it's been some time that I've been wondering, so let me ask:
- as experience shows, items outside the duties of At-Large sometimes make up a large proportion of email traffic, e.g. sending greetings on religious holidays, or commenting hotel facilities, or get-well messages. Without any mechanism to evaluate the relevance of a message, what is the purpose of such statistics?
- Just as a matter of interest, can such statistics be generated by any ALAC or At-Large member from outside the US, or who does not work in one of the larger IT industries in the US and/or the UK?
- Are these statistics shared with, and analyzed, by any individual/entity outside of our ALAC / At-Large community? If so, who/what?
Thank you. Jean-Jacques.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Narten" <narten@us.ibm.com> To: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Sent: Vendredi 31 Janvier 2014 13:53:02 Subject: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge- lists.icann.org
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Messages | Bytes | Who --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 23.08% | 6 | 26.27% | 66911 | salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com 7.69% | 2 | 9.42% | 24000 | hongxueipr at gmail.com 7.69% | 2 | 9.20% | 23439 | parminder at itforchange.net 7.69% | 2 | 6.15% | 15671 | evan at telly.org 3.85% | 1 | 4.82% | 12279 | plam.popova at gmail.com 3.85% | 1 | 4.54% | 11564 | b.schombe at gmail.com 3.85% | 1 | 4.09% | 10427 | jjs at dyalog.net 3.85% | 1 | 4.04% | 10289 | vanda at uol.com.br 3.85% | 1 | 3.94% | 10041 | thompson.darlene at gmail.com 3.85% | 1 | 3.80% | 9673 | ocl at gih.com 3.85% | 1 | 3.53% | 9005 | eiriarte at alfa-redi.org 3.85% | 1 | 3.47% | 8844 | wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net 3.85% | 1 | 3.14% | 7999 | staff at atlarge.icann.org 3.85% | 1 | 3.05% | 7778 | narten at us.ibm.com 3.85% | 1 | 2.76% | 7034 | cw at christopherwilkinson.eu 3.85% | 1 | 2.74% | 6969 | seth.reiss at lex-ip.com 3.85% | 1 | 2.66% | 6765 | director at icfoss.in 3.85% | 1 | 2.38% | 6052 | carlton.samuels at gmail.com --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ 100.00% | 26 |100.00% | 254740 | Total
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