I would agree with Beau in that I have issue with loyalty oaths.. I would suggest that mention of that word be stricken and replaced with something far more appropriate given the variety of organizations and affiliations we all have. I had to look up Beau's reference to Lavrenti Beria http://www.multied.com/BIO/people/beria.html Soviet strongman Lavrenti Pavlovich Beria began his political career during the Russian Revolution. He later directed the secret police in Georgia and in 1938 was appointed by Stalin as the first Commissar for foreign relations, and the head of the NKVD, the predecessor of the KGB. Beria was one of the most feared men in the Soviet Union. After the death of Stalin, many believed that Beria would attempt to take over. Instead, he was arrested and executed. regards Robert On 14-Apr-08, at 11:18 AM, Brendler, Beau wrote:
I read it and it's not a lot different than what my own organization requires its employees to read and sign.
Perhaps I'm in the minority but, though long and bureaucratic, it outlines minimum expectations. Sure, some of them are common sense and common courtesy, but ALAC is multilingual and multicultural, so it needs to be spelled out somewhere.
My only comment is that I do not take loyalty oaths, so I cannot sign anything that contains language that amounts to swearing loyalty to a committee, which went out with Lavrenti Beria et al, etc.
So my hope is we can agree to what's in here and move on to the substantive work we all would prefer to be engaged in.
Beau Brendler
-----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Alan Greenberg Sent: Sat 4/12/2008 7:10 AM To: At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] ALAC Draft Accountability Framework and Conflicts of Interest Policy
I have some substantive comments, but first, I must point out that the document says a vote will be taken during the April teleconference, I presume that the plan is actually for May.
I am attaching a copy of the draft document with my COMMENTS inserted (you may have to turn on displaying of Comment Balloons to see them). Some are purely editorial, but most are substantive.
Overall, I find this document far too long, and too bureaucratic. Providing an 11 page document to tell people what is expected of them seems like a way to guarantee that it is not read. On the other hand, the major participation requirements are at times glossed over where they should be more descriptive. I nevertheless have addressed the document as it stands.
I find the Conflict of Interest procedures overly complex. Yes, we must make sure we are not perceived as serving some other master, but we are an advisory committee, not a policy-making body. The GNSO, which *is* a policy making body has less onerous rules.
I must admit that I am troubled that I found so much to comment on, and I haven't seen any other comments from ALAC members (unless they came in while I was in transit the last 24 hours). Am really that out of touch with everyone else?
Alan
At 31/03/2008 02:49 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote:
Dear Community members:
The ALAC decided at their last meeting to request the staff to draft up a comprehensive Accountability Framework, which the ALAC Executive Committee was to review and amend at its meeting this month. The Chair proposed to the ExComm that at the same time a Conflicts of Interest Policy should be prepared as this was a natural accompaniment to the Accountability Framework.
he ExComm has reviewed these two texts, and the ALAC is now to review the draft from 1 April until 11th April - comments from the wider At-Large community are of course welcomed.
Any comments received are then to be incorporated and the resulting text will be on the agenda for adoption at the next ALAC Teleconference, in May.
The URL for the text is as follows. In order to save bandwidth for those who do not have broadband, the text has not been attached to this message: https://st.icann.org/data/workspaces/alac/attachments/8_april_2008:200803311...
French and Spanish translation will be available once they are ready. -- Regards,
Nick Ashton-Hart
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