Agree with Roberto and we lived similar experiences. This is an opportunity not to waste. Wait for your thoughts Roberto, since I am too busy finalizing the final report of Nomcom. vanda -----Mensagem original----- De: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de Roberto Gaetano Enviada em: quarta-feira, 3 de outubro de 2012 08:16 Para: 'At-Large Worldwide' Assunto: [At-Large] R: Board solicitation of input on how it should receive input and advice I agree with Evan's analysis but disagree on the conclusions. I will submit a personal comment - will work on it over the weekend. The concept that I would like to express is that the problem is not so much the way the input is collected, but what happens afterwards. Namely, for each given community statement there should be a thorough explanation on why the Board has disregarded it, if this is the case (as it often is). Let's be clear: there might be very good reasons for the Board not taking into account community input, and I personally remember discussions when I was on the Board on how to include community input in decisions. However, as an individual community member who has no access to complete records of Board discussions, I find the feedback from the Board not thorough enough to make me confident that all Directors have even read the comments before deliberating. I think we should not waste the opportunity to put some comments on record, even if I agree that we have bigger fish to fry at this point in time. Cheers, R. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di Evan Leibovitch Inviato: mercoledì 3 ottobre 2012 09:25 A: At-Large Worldwide Oggetto: Re: [At-Large] Board solicitation of input on how it should receive input and advice On 2 October 2012 23:40, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
I call your attention to a recently opened Public Comment in which the ICANN Board solicits input on how it should receive input and advice in making its decisions.
*Dear sirs,* *Thoroughly and transparently.* *Sincerely,* *The ALAC*
I have been asked by Olivier to lead the development of an ALAC contribution, supported by Cheryl.
I add this to the never-ending pile of diversionary ICANN procedural time wasters, especially in regard to ALAC advice. Our methods for providing advice are fine, and for us to refine internally. The Board's methods for considering that advice stink; however they are not within the scope of this soliticitation. They don't even know the right question to ask; instead all we have, really, is a public comment process to talk about public comment processes, the height of absurdity. As such, the reply I've suggested above should be more than sufficient. The boundless capacity of the Board to waste its community volunteers' time is truly something to behold. - Evan
The public comment description can be found at
http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/input-advice-function-24se p12-en.htm .
Input should preferably be made to the At-Large Wiki at https://community.icann.org/x/K5AoAg. If anyone cannot cannot access the Wiki to submit comments, please submit your comments to this list WITH AN EXPLICIT REQUEST TO POST TO THE WIKI at the start of the message.
The comment period ends shortly after the ICANN meeting. I normally have abundant time to work on such statement en route to ICANN meetings, but in this case my flight time is under an hour, so my work-methods must change. PLEASE your thoughts by the end of the day (wherever you are) next Tuesday, October 9th. Hopefully draft will be prepared for discussion and then decision during the ICANN week.
Alan
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