Vittorio I'm sure I'm only the first to say to you and anyone else that cares to listen that the ALAC per se has not, now or in any of its discussions or official statement s ever suggested or indicated that we are "pushing the ALAC to have a direct role in the GNSO" in fact we have *carefully* crafted all our statements correspondence and meeting dialogue to show ( and here I direct you to the transcripts from the Meeting held in Cairo with the User House Interest) that we intend the exact *opposite of this* we stand ready to facilitate Internet or End User input into GNSO activities, WG's etc., as well as any Non Commercial User e Constituency(ies) But We as an Advisory Committee to the ALAC Board do NOT wish to be directly involved as such in the new GNSO structure... CLO -----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Vittorio Bertola Sent: Thursday, 20 November 2008 9:15 PM To: At-Large Worldwide Subject: [At-Large] The kiss of death Dear ALAC, while you ponder on the correct procedures to produce a comment on the "role of individual users in the GNSO", comment like this one are appearing: http://forum.icann.org/lists/alac-mid-consult/msg00001.html I don't want to look like the old guy saying "I told you so", but I told you all since when this GNSO restructuring process began that by pushing for the ALAC to have a direct role in the GNSO, you are shooting yourselves in the foot and possibly also in the head. That's because you are giving other interest groups a valid reason for saying "but if they are in fact a GNSO constituency, and they so declare themselves, then why should they also have an AC role and Board representatives?" It's a good thing that you fall in love with the GNSO, and a kiss doesn't harm, but please be sure that she doesn't have HIV or the resulting activities might end with your death. Regards, -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <-------- _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.icann .org At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org