Hello Thomas, there have been several comments on the email I sent on this list, about "Weekly posting summary", ranging from a reminder of the history of this summary, to suggestions about its usefulness today. Unless I'm mistaken, you have not replied. Your views would be most welcome. Best regards, Jean-Jacques. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro" <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> To: "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Vendredi 31 Janvier 2014 19:33:28 Subject: Re: [At-Large] R: Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Thanks Roberto, interesting history especially for those of us who are but babes in ICANN and At Large, this being my third year participating. I would say that it is a useful metric as far as geographic distribution and participation. Further analysis on content where discussions can be segregated into various subheadings can be done by those who have the interest and time. i would think that the stats are still useful. One man's trash is another man's treasure. On that note in analyzing content by going to the links where the threads are, one might see what tends to interest people etc. It is one of the most important lists in At Large as it is a place of convergence of the global community within At Large. I would guard against any form of censorship but would say that the mailing list is a tool to encourage participation and dialogue on issues affecting the community whether these are policy related, etc. There will be times where you will find a few regions active on the list and others minimal and there could be various reasons for that. Provoking discussion and dialogue is not always an easy thing to do. Cheers, Sala Sent from my iPad
On Feb 1, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com> wrote:
I'll let Thomas answer more authoritatively to this question, but for the completeness of information I would like to add a historic point of view. Once upon a time, there was the General Assembly list (GA). Some folks on that list claimed that it was the voice of the people. However, the noise/signal ratio was incredibly high. Most postings were signed "Jeff Williams", and were in large part off topic. When ALAC was being formed, in 2006, I was elected ALAC Liaison to the Board, and there were discussions about representativity of ALAC. My claim was that, although ALAC was in formation phase, the content and weight of the discussion in the At-Large lists was much more important than what was happening in the GA. Please be aware that I had emotional links with the GA, of which I have been the first elected chairperson, back in 2000 or 2001: I am convinced that way back it had a function and the discussions were lively and useful, but in time the debate had fallen to abysmal level. So my point was that the At-Large lists were widely more relevant for the participation of the general public to ICANN activities. Thomas, who was at that time also a Board Liaison, and interested in the inclusiveness of the ICANN processes, started keeping weekly statistics of the traffic on the GA and ALAC public lists, to support this claim. This has been going on until nowadays. Incidentally, the statistics on the GA were also carried on, showing that with the disappearance of Jeff Williams there is only a message every couple of months or so by George Kirikos, and the weekly report of Thomas himself. Personally, I believe that the primary purpose of these statistics is now no longer interesting: the GA is dead, although not yet formally closed, and the At-Large is the established mailing list for At-Large participants, so it could be discontinued without prejudice for ALAC. On the other hand, for the sake of confidentiality and European data protection laws, may I observe that the At-Large list is hosted in the US by ICANN, and publicly available, so all the statistics that Thomas keeps are based on data that are publicly available and hosted in the US anyway. This just for completeness of information, as this
-----Messaggio originale----- Da: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large- bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di Subrenat, Jean-Jacques Inviato: venerdì 31 gennaio 2014 09:12 A: At-Large Worldwide Oggetto: Re: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge- lists.icann.org
Hello Thomas,
it's been some time that I've been wondering, so let me ask:
- as experience shows, items outside the duties of At-Large sometimes make up a large proportion of email traffic, e.g. sending greetings on religious holidays, or commenting hotel facilities, or get-well messages. Without any mechanism to evaluate the relevance of a message, what is the purpose of such statistics?
- Just as a matter of interest, can such statistics be generated by any ALAC or At-Large member from outside the US, or who does not work in one of the larger IT industries in the US and/or the UK?
- Are these statistics shared with, and analyzed, by any individual/entity outside of our ALAC / At-Large community? If so, who/what?
Thank you. Jean-Jacques.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Narten" <narten@us.ibm.com> To: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Sent: Vendredi 31 Janvier 2014 13:53:02 Subject: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large@atlarge- lists.icann.org
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