Apparently my email did not reach at-large list - maybe my email subscription ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elisabeth Porteneuve" <elisabeth.porteneuve@latmos.ipsl.fr> To: "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: "Marco Lorenzoni" <marco.lorenzoni@icann.org>; <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [At-Large] Director White Paper - Request for Comments
Greetings,
I found this New Year wishes from Rod Beckstrom very scaring: "May the Internet remain unfettered throughout this new decade 3:10 AM Jan 2nd "
It seems to me it fits well into your discussion. No doubts to me, ICANN's structure is getting more and more into defense-wall. Why, and what is the end-users place in that?
Kind regards, Elisabeth
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian de Larrinaga" <cdel@firsthand.net> To: "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: "Marco Lorenzoni" <marco.lorenzoni@icann.org>; <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [At-Large] Director White Paper - Request for Comments
Evan
On 13 Jan 2010, at 20:20, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
With the expiration of the JPA and its replacement by the "Affirmation of Commitments", power evolves from one government to many. But this is still a far far distance from the notion that ICANN gets its mandate from the Internet end-user.
Neither the JPA nor Affirmation of Commitments amended the fundamental rationale for ICANN to work from the bottom up for a very limited scope of resources including DNS root entries, IP address delegations, AS Number delegations, and Port address registry. The point of reference remains the Internet user.
Governments all have jurisdiction locally over their territory including over any network infrastructure or services and use of trademarks. These powers are general and pervasive and subject to both multi and bi lateral treaty arrangements. This is not changed with the move from the JPA.
ICANN has nothing like this scope.
I say this not with approval, but as what I believe is a realistic evaluation of what I have encountered. We can't properly plan strategy unless we have a clear picture of what we're dealing with.
Hmm. So what happens when that application service comes through from the user edge that provides useful support for trademarks across the world in a way that the DNS cannot?
That won't happen at ICANN. No assumption should be made that ICANN is the place to control the routing of names more generally on networks.
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