Carlos, Can you please point me to the exact sentence in the Bylaws or other institutional ALAC documents that states that NomCom ALAC members are different from RALOs ALAC members? If there is no such sentence, I assume that, as a lawyer, you would agree that they have to be treated as equal. I am not native English speaker, and I ask the assistance of native English speakers to suggest what is the word that defines "giving lesser rights to people that are legally equal", if "discrimination" is not the right one. And I insist that if ALAC does that it will behave differently than the GNSO and the Board itself. On the other hand, if ALAC really feels that Chair and Vice-Chair should come from RALOs and not NomCom, this would be a very legitimate position (for the reasons explained by Wendy), but I am afraid it would require a change in the ALAC institutional documents. Absent that, we cannot discriminate, or differentiate, or whatever an appropriate word would be, one third of the ALAC members. It would just not be compliant with the rules of the game. Cheers, Roberto _____ From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of carlos aguirre Sent: 12 October 2007 00:00 To: Wendy Seltzer; Evan Leibovitch Cc: 'At-Large Worldwide' Subject: Re: [At-Large] ALAC Positions open for nominations 2007-2008 My position in this matter is quite similar than Wendy and Beau. I consider that "discrimination" is not the proper word to use in this case. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre abogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - * / 423-5423 www.sitioderecho.com.ar <http://www.sitioderecho.com.ar/> www.densi.com.ar <http://www.densi.com.ar/>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:23:18 -0400 From: wendy@seltzer.com To: evan@telly.org CC: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] ALAC Positions open for nominations 2007-2008
I read Evan's suggestions not as "discrimination" but as a request that the At-Large leadership be accountable to the at-large public. At the moment, the only accountability any of the Committee has is the possibility of recall by its regional structures. So it makes sense for an at-large participant to ask the committee to select its executive from among members who have that connection -- and it sounds to me like a reasonable request.
--Wendy
Evan Leibovitch wrote:
Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
I would like to nominate one of our newly NomCom appointed, Members of ALAC, Vanda Scartezini for one of the Vice Chair positions:-
While I am not a member of ALAC, I implore you to select, for your executive, from amongst the members that were sent by RALOs. They have a level of accountability that does not exist for the NomComm appointees, and by definition an understanding of the At-Large community culture that is likely lacking in people brought into ALAC from other constituencies.
The primary goal of ALAC is to represent the grassroots public interest to ICANN. It can do this best when its leaders come from within that grassroots.
In any case, how about giving some opportunities to (relative) ICANN newcomers? The RALO reps already come from positions of leadership in their respective ALSs, so there are no complete novices here.
Evan Leibovitch
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