Dear Olivier, Dear colleagues, As Vittorio stated, and I have to congratulate him for his beautiful statement (which I support 200%), ICANN has to respect smaller communities. If the goal is Internet for everyone, why the price is in perspective of large organisations or communities ? Indeed, in the Guidebook we see fees as 185.000 $ and 75.000 $, prices several communities around the world can not afford. Moreover, 75.000 $ is not 5 % of revenue of a small gTLD ! Let's consider a small community willing to share among them the possibility of their own gTLD, having only 50.000 $ revenue, well 5% of that revenue is not 75.000 $ but only 2.500 $. So, it is in disproportion and somewhere that's what Vittorio and myself, are willing to get discussed in the very near future. I'm joining him in this perspective and will, as soon as I'm back from Tokyo, have another mail on this topic. Hope it becomes clear that, from ALAC's perspective, representing smaller communities, this is indeed a very important topic to get involvement of all our ALSes. Hope to read you soon. Rudi Vansnick President - CEO Internet Society Belgium vzw Vice-chair ISOC European Chapters Coordinating Council Board member EURALO (ALAC-ICANN) /Dendermondesteenweg 143 B-9070 Destelbergen Belgium GSM: +32 (0)475 28 16 32 - Tel: +32 (0)70 77 39 39/ www.isoc.be <http://www.isoc.be> - www.isoc.eu <http://www.isoc.eu> - www.euralo.org <http://www.euralo.org> Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond schreef:
Hello Vittorio,
your reasoning wrt costs is one which has been echoed by many participants.
However, have you read the document entitled "New gTLD Programme: Draft Applicant Guidebook (Draft RFP), Explanatory Memoranda and Supporting Documents"? Do you disagree with the methodology described in the part of the document entitled "Cost Considerations of the New wwgTLD Program"? Of particular inteest, do you disagree with the diagram shown on page 9 of the document?
BTW I am entirely neutral on the matter. I can understand ICANN's explanation for the high fees, but I also understand that for applicants such as yourself, this is very expensive. As such, I fear that there may not be any win-win position on this.
O.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Vittorio Bertola" <vb@bertola.eu> To: "Sivasubramanian Muthusamy" <isolatedn@gmail.com> Cc: "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [At-Large] FW: My comments on new gTLDs and the role of ICANN
Sivasubramanian Muthusamy ha scritto:
So I wouldn't really generalize by saying that it is wrong on the
part of
ICANN to have decided to charge a fee. At the same time, ICANN
could also
consider either a case to case basis waiver of all or part of the
fees, or
even think of categories of fees for new domain names - for
instance
commercial corporations with a commercial domain name allocation
business
plans charged a higher fee, non-profits a subsized fee or a fully
waived
fee.
I think that this would be a good solution, but let me make one more point: these fees really seem to be artificially high, much higher
than
the actual cost of evaluating the applications ($185'000 * 500 applications = $92.5 million; the cost of processing application is almost entirely made by people's time to examine them; with $92.5 million, even in developed countries, you can hire 2000 people for a year, at $46'250/person/year, or 1000 people at $92'500/person/year;
do
you really need all those people??)
I wouldn't really say that we need ICANN to find subsidies for non-profit applications - I would say that we just need ICANN to
keep
the fees strictly equal to actual and direct costs, and IMHO the fee would be much lower.
Ciao, -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu
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