Beau, We should be able to formally confirm the matter at today's policy webinar. I fully agree with you that no one will ever want to join a GNSO constituency without the opportunity to directly elect their own spokespersons as councilors, and most certainly they won't see any value in joining if the chance for direct representation is denied for another two years. I have already informed Robert Hoggarth and Ken Bour that the likelihood of a registrant constituency forming under these conditions is somewhere between Slim and None. If these details are confirmed, the only viable course of action remaining will be to file a formal reconsideration request with the board. These placeholder councilors should only be serving until new constituencies are formed (at which point they should be replaced by a constituency's elected representatives). This "participation without representation" nonsense has been pitched by Denise Michel for so long to the at-large orgs that she probably believes it to be an acceptable path forward -- it is not. regards, Danny --- On Thu, 10/15/09, Beau Brendler <beaubrendler@earthlink.net> wrote: From: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler@earthlink.net> Subject: [At-Large] "placeholder" reps not placeholders? To: "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "James Seng" <james@seng.sg>, alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org, "William Drake" <william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch> Cc: "ALAC Working List" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 9:35 AM By the way, is it true what I heard that the three newly appointed GNSO people have now been hard-wired in to two-year terms? I don't really see a constituency model working under those circumstances. Who's going to join a constituency if they have to wait two years to be able to directly elect a representative? No consumer group I am aware of is going to want to do that. -----Original Message-----
From: Andrés Piazza <investigaciones@densi.com.ar> Sent: Oct 15, 2009 7:04 AM To: James Seng <james@seng.sg>, alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org, William Drake <william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch> Cc: ALAC Working List <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] [ALAC] ALAC-NCUC
If it's a dinner, drink or whatever I'll join..
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-----Original Message----- From: James Seng <james@seng.sg> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:46:19 To: William Drake<william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch> Cc: ALAC Working List<alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; At-Large Worldwide<at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [ALAC] ALAC-NCUC
Milton spoke to me a while ago and mentioned there are some issues wrt to NCUC lately.
I do not know the exact details yet but I am all ears to learn more.
So if we can arrange something on Monday night, I would definitely be joining.
-James Seng
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:47 PM, William Drake <william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch> wrote:
Hi,
No formal meeting between ALAC and NCUC has been set for Seoul, which to me is a pity but whatever. However, that doesn't mean that interested folks can't get together for more informal chatting about mutual concerns and such. At the moment NCUC has nothing programmed for Monday night, don't know about ALAC. Might anyone here be available for a drink at day's end, or even dinner? If so I'm sure we can rustle up a good NCUC contingent.
Best,
Bill
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