Anyone who harboured the illusion that ALAC has stopped obsessing with process, has had that illusion quickly shattered by this endless mailing list thread about mailing lists. Its volume has easily outpaced anything to do with policy or real needs. If you as a reader are fed up with certain message senders, stop reading their messages. (I for one will now start filtering this whole thread, not just certain posters.) If the Chair is satisfied that current guidelines are being violated, by all means implement appropriate moderation or blocking. Said measure, if controversial, can be debated and put to rest at the next ALAC meeting. What is NOT needed are new lists, new rules for the existing lists, or endless debate about them. Even for volunteers, our time has value. - Evan