Hi Chris Yep - well, consistency isn't always required... But making all whois private won't actually be a solution to the spammers, as there are other sources available to them. I don't want whois private (at least for businesses) as I think it's useful to lots of other users, (or it would be useful if it was accurate) and taking it completely private would remove access to the tool. And I agree with removing the AGP entirely, so at least I'm consistent! :) Jacqueline -------------------------------------------------- From: "Blogs.pn" <namecritic@blogs.pn> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:32 AM To: <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> Cc: <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Community Input Requested on Two DraftStatements from ALAC to the ICANN Board
Just a comparison note. It seems funny that a lot of people are against eliminating the AGP altogether as a method for solving domain tasting, but they are willing to take a drastic measure like making ALL whois private as a soltion to the spammers. I thought the one-step-at-a-time approach to things was preferred.
Chris McElroy
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacqueline A. Morris" <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> Cc: <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Community Input Requested on Two DraftStatements from ALAC to the ICANN Board
I totally agree with this view. whois has legitimate uses, especially in business, and obviously needs to be accurate. What we do need, though, is a way to prevent the spammers and bad guys harvesting data from the whois database, without shutting it down by having it totally private and hidden.
Jacqueline Derek Smythe wrote:
Blogs.pn wrote:
I just think that if this is supposed to be to the benefit of registrants, then the registrant should be the one choosing the option. This is not a case of "most people want their whois info private, therefore everyone must have their whois information private" or vice versa situation.
Each registrant should be able to choose for themselves. For example, I do not want my whois information private. I like transparency. I like my potential clients to have the ability to see who owns my business or who owns the domain name I do business with. I can also see how some people would rather have it private for very legitimate reasons.
I just do not believe that their reasons for wanting privacy are greater than my reason for not wanting it or vice versa. Why should their wishes override my wishes or my wishes override their wishes?
I'm definitely for enforcing that the whois information is accurate whether the registrant chooses privacy or not. But that is a separate issue. Why must the privacy issue be a one side wins or the other side wins situation? Personal choice should override all other concerns in my opinion.
Chris McElroy
Well said Chris!
I believe there are options for registrants who would wish their whois to be private, since registrars do provide such a service. I myself use such a service as pointed out in my mail, also for a very legitimate reason.
Likewise there are those who abuse the current whois privacy mechanisms by hiding fake whois data behind privacy services to avoid responsibility for the domain usage.
There are many legitimate businesses and normal registrants who prefer their whois to be shown. In fact a protected whois record for business is a red flag.
As regards the whois accuracy issue, this was the original statement I believe should stay as is:
* WHOIS Accuracy and Reporting. We all know that WHOIS is very inaccurate. This is a very serious problem and considerable effort needs to be made to improve this situation....
Derek
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