Yeah -I get it. North Americans aren't going to change so everyone else has to change (grow "thick skins") instead. Thanks for the welcome and understanding. These responses really let me see the cultural bias in all its glory and WHY it's so difficult to get new ppl involved. Jacqueline Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device available from bmobile. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Baptista <baptista@publicroot.org> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:17:30 To: At-Large Worldwide<at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] (not really about) Travel Funding I got your point. And agree with it. But your insights will not alter the cultural differences discussed here. North Americans and Europeans are not going to change their ways because of a few cultural insights or complaints. Much simpler for those cultures to develop a thick skinned approach to debate. What I see here from those "other" cultures in supporting these arguments amounts to a lack of confidence in public debate. That is just one interpretation out of many - right or wrong. It can just as easily be argued that we here in North America and Europe need sensitivity training. Thats not going to happen because we don't really see anything wrong with our ways. Thats why we can easily interpret the failure of other cultures to debate as a lack of confidence. In fact based on the discussions here to date that's seem to be exactly what the problem is. This is a bit like English instruction. Most cultures in the world train their children in English because English is the language of trade and it is also the dominant language on this planet. In the same way other cultures may very well wish to train their children in our debate style and face the obvious fact which is that we in North America and Europe are rude assholes and their children should have the tools, confidence and education to deal with that. cheers joe baptista On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:
Joe Baptista wrote:
Maybe there is a lesson here that these cultures can learn from. Free speech can be very painful to listen too but it has served our democracies in North America and Europe. While most other cultures suffer under the whip and boot were by comparison very well off.
I really disagree with the oversimplification above, and suggest it indicates you really didn't get the point of my original message.
Everyone has something to teach, and everyone has something to learn.
- Evan
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