On March 27, 2016 at 12:53 johnl@iecc.com (John R. Levine) wrote:
I don't understand why we're wasting time with this nonsense. There is no such thing as "international incorporation" and any plausible UN or treaty alternative would give governments total control.
That was my problem. I googled "international incorporation" for a while but didn't find anything useful. I did find some attorney sites which offered "international incorporation" but they meant helping a (typically) US corporation add a new incorporation in another country such as (typically) the Cayman Islands. So that was "international incorporation" more in the sense of "international airport": More than one country of incorporation but two was sufficient to merit the term. It seems to be conflated, in this discussion, with an international treaty organization (ITO) which is well-defined. There is even an extensive list of ITOs here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intergovernmental_organizations So at least that's plausible. That the term actually exists is encouraging. Incorporation is, at least in US law, a fairly specific term. It creates a fictional legal entity with limited liability and the ability to, within broad limits, indemnify officers of the corporation and others. But they are subject to the regulations and laws of the incorporation jurisdiction, at least. And to engage in political elections without restraint but let's not go there. Looking through those organizations most though not all seem to be chartered under the UN. I couldn't find an incorporation of any of them, particularly non-UN (e.g., EiroForum), but I only looked for a few minutes and it occurred to me that someone more versed in this field could enlighten us extemporaneously in a few words so why should I even attempt to do this? All that said what model, examples would be good, might this new ICANN resemble? And, as to difficulty, having located some potential model organizations why not ask them, where founders are available, how difficult it was to create them? Put another way, why do I get the feeling too much of this discussion is being manufactured de novo as if we were writing a movie script only limited by our imagination and word juggling abilities? And if that is the case I move to include a love interest, people always like a love interest, particularly stakeholders. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs@TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*