JFC and all my friends, Respectfully, users do not need teaching, we need to learn from them. They are the BOSS! Once each of us recognizes this, the better all of us will be. And I along with our members, are some of those users. All of our members as I have stated many times before are ALSO registrants. We WILL be heard, and when possible, we WILL vote with our $$ and in any other way we legally can. If this is offensive to anyone, than I humbly but without reservation, suggest that they look in the mirror for their recompense... As a matter of example only, I and 91% of our members, users all, have decided/voted today to block the following Domain Names. wanadoo.fr me.wanadoo.fr orange.nl valleybank.com We do so simply because in two instances their DNS's are misconfigured, second all four are purvayors of spam and phishing attempts. To date most of our members are reporting that over 8,000 domain names are currently being blocked for same or similar reasons even though we firmly are against cnesorship. However as ICANN nor the GNSO has seen fit to properly police their registrars, registries, nor have either the hostmasters of postmasters of these domains cleaned up their employees or customers adaquately, in order for our members are left with no other method by which to protect themselves... So for these reasons, the "See no evil" and "Hear no evil" jaundra of the ALAC is inconsistant with reality and/or not giving the main role of ICANN and the GNSO's job it's proper perspective, that being technical managment. Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827 JFC Morfin wrote:
Dear Danny, for nearly eight years I know you, I do not know if you have proposed the text of a motion. I wander what is really your target: you are an informed hard worker, and sometimes extremely good, on occasions really brillant. However, I am afraid that instead of helping the community and ICANN you are fighting both. I opposed you a lot when you were GA Chair because you wanted to be the GA by your own and speak by yourself on our behalf - not because your positions were wrong (just sometimes, at that time, sophomore's positions - but that time is gone). Then you were not really fighting, but not helping us either with the IDNA and ICANN-alarge.
Could we not reach a modus vivendi, where we (you and ALAC) mutually take advantage from the other, fight together for the users, rather that you fighting the ALAC. ALAC is not a democratic representative of the users, but certainly a sample of their most motivated ones. If you/we do not teach them, how do you want them to know? jfc
At 00:30 17/02/2008, Danny Younger wrote:
the ALAC, in its role as the "voice of the individual Internet users" has absolutely nothing to say on the topic...
no policy recommendations, no request for an issues report, no request for a PDP, no request to ICANN Staff for feedback as to whether NetSol practices constitute a violation of the RAA -- instead, the ALAC appears to be either totally clueless or horribly irresponsible -- but what can you really expect from a bunch of people that are just pretending to be the at-large so that they can continue to milk the ICANN cash cow? If they really were the at-large, we would have heard their outrage about these situations... instead all we hear are their ongoing requests for even more money while registrants receive no assistance whatsoever from their "Voice" within ICANN.
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