Michele and all my friends, There is no disruption of any list. There is a disagreement amongst list members or issues, what are important issues amongst users, and how those issues should be discussed, unless of course one views disagreement as disruption, a skewed view to be sure! The fact that Ireland does not have an ALS is of their own users organizations and individual users own choice. Setting up yet another list determined by unelected members of some committee seems divisive in that such seems to seek to eliminate transparency, open participation, and accountability accordingly. That is specifically against the MOU and has even broader negative implications for users everywhere. I suppose that prioritizing users issues can be helpful. If so, than getting a quantitative idea as to which issues are at what level of priority would seem to be a good starting point. The problem is with doing so is that there are so many now, and more seemingly coming nearly every day. Second problem is that of education, which is to say that many user problems can be addressed or actually solved by users themselves, but the knowledge as to how to do so is not readily known. Three examples: Spam, IDtheft and Phishing Solutions or addressing these three problems I have already expressed/provided to the ALAC list members. They are: ID Theft reporting: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2002/02/idtheft.shtm which provides for good information regarding this user problem. Reporting spam to: spam@uce.gov and where available to their providers problem/abuse reporting machinisim. Phishing: Reporting Phishing attempts to http://www.antiphishing.org/report_phishing.html and follow the instructions... and/or to: http://www.us-cert.gov/nav/report_phishing.html and other incident reporting at: https://forms.us-cert.gov/report/ Other User reported problems are Domain Name Tasting/Frontrunning being perpetrated by Registries/Registrars where there is no good means currently by which to address this problem via ICANN and ICANN seemingly doesn't desire to be very forthcoming in actually eliminating this problem even though policy and technical means and methods are available and have been elaborated upon. Hence law suits have ensued against Network Solutions and ICANN accordingly. Some very few ALAC global members seem to take some offense personally to legal remedies being sought. More are very likely to be sought in the near future or enjoining of current class action suits currently filed may be eminent, which again some ALAC members view as offensive/abusive for whatever reasons yet fully elaborated upon, they have. Frankly, and by rule of law, taking such as offensive or abusive is specifically inproper/inappropriate at a minimum, and terribly skewed at worst and perhaps have legal remedies under restraint of trade laws, regulations, and trade agreement provisions already in place a la NAFTA, GATT, ect... Michele Neylon wrote:
Of course you do realise that some countries don't have an ALS. Don't you?
So let's see if I understand the issue ....
There's some disruption on a mailing list. Possibly caused by one or two people.
Instead of dealing with it some people want another list setup, but want a committee to make a decision for this to happen?
And then people wonder why ICANN has no teeth
*sigh*
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