I don't want to question anyone's motives, but I do agree specifically with Danny -- this proposed amendment needs to go further in order to be effective. See Consumer Reports WebWatch's guidelines (http://www.consumerwebwatch.org/consumer-reports-webwatch-guidelines.cfm) for a more detailed variation (guideline one is pasted below), and note more than 300 companies, from Hewlett-Packard to ING to CNN to Earthlink have agreed to abide by these guidelines: 1. Identity: Web sites should clearly disclose the physical location where they are produced, including an address, a telephone number or e-mail address. Sites should clearly disclose their ownership, private or public, naming their parent company. Sites should clearly disclose their purpose and mission. As someone who has investigated a number of mail-drop scam businesses, going the extra mile for physical location where the site is produced is necessary. ________________________________________ From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Danny Younger [dannyyounger@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:18 PM To: At-Large Worldwide Cc: NA Discuss Subject: [NA-Discuss] Latest RAA amendment ICANN Staff is now throwing out last-minute sops in order to get the GNSO community to approve the RAA amendments as a package. The latest amendment added to the package is this: 3.16 Registrar shall provide on its web site its accurate contact details including valid email and mailing address. Of course, this amendment still doesn't require the registrar to identify its primary place of business. The registrar could have its primary base of operations in India, yet work through a Delaware-based shell corporation that maintains a contact point at a Canadian mailboxes-r-us (which could serve as a valid email and mailing address). Dozens of Registrars located internationally are using "mail-drop" addresses and post office boxes in the United States and Canada as primary addresses -- do we want to encourage this deceptive behavior? The proposed amendment does little to nothing to address the concerned raised by users on this topic. Thanks to ICANN Staff for once more demonstrating that they will only give lip service to user concerns. ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ica... Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------ *** Scanned ** This e-mail message is intended only for the designated recipient(s) named above. The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, retain, copy, redistribute or use this e-mail or any attachment for any purpose, or disclose all or any part of its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments from your computer system.