Not that these efforts aren't laudable and important -- but these mechanisms are ultimately no replacement for attending meetings in person. The ability to meet people directly and talk over dinners, during receptions, or in the hallways, is usually the biggest value of a face-to-face, and I haven't seen this emulated online so far. Backchannel chats are valuable, but don't have the same effect. That means, in particular, that even good online participation technology doesn't make holding meetings in expensive and inaccessible places acceptable. (As long as that happens only occasionally, it's a one-off screw-up. Just don't make a habit out of it.) Regards, -- Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org> On 2008-01-03 10:47:11 -0800, Kieren McCarthy wrote:
From: Kieren McCarthy <Kieren.McCarthy@icann.org> To: jsalgueiro@cantv.net, roessler@does-not-exist.org Cc: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:47:11 -0800 Subject: Re: [At-Large] RES: Venue Accessibility X-Spam-Level: X-Greylist: delayed 1743 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at s15252719; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:16:25 UTC X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.1.6
May I mention again the online meeting participation website for the Delhi meeting, found at http://del.icann.org.
If people have suggestions for improvement over previous sites, please raise them now as time gets very tight just prior to a meeting.
If you go to the main participation site at http://public.icann.org you will see I have set up a discussion forum where you can thrash about ideas.
Kieren
-----Original Message----- From: Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org> Cc: At-Large Worldwide <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> To: <jsalgueiro@cantv.net>
Sent: 1/3/2008 6:22:04 AM Subject: Re: [At-Large] RES: Venue Accessibility
On 2007-12-30 11:01:14 -0400, Josè Ovidio Salgueiro A. wrote:
This is true. But when everyone of us was appointed to their possitions we already new the time we had to devote to ICANN so I don`t see why we should complaint now
Because this isn't just about your precious time, but about the possibility to bring a broader public into these meetings. The Internet at large, you know...
Sure, ICANN staff will ultimately take care of travel arrangements for ALAC members and other appointees, modulo the usual little signals such as not being put into the same hotel as the board members.
But what do you do about others who are members of this community, might have valuable insights to contribute, and for sure won't cough up $500 per night in terms of hotel expenses -- either out of their own pocket, or out of an expense account?
-- Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org>
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