When I see ICANN supporters introduce the misguided argument on the "REAL" root I know were making progress. So - who here can see the Chinese National TLD system? Who can surf to Peking University at its official web site address used extensively in china http://北京大学.中国/ <http://xn--1lq90ic7fzpc.xn--fiqs8s/> The above URL works for me. Is there any other person here on the governance or atlarge lists who can surf to that working URL? I very proud of the Chines government. They took charge of their internet. They made it their business to understand the technology. While other governments helped ICANN build a bureaucracy - the Chinese gave them the finger. Thats three hundred million fingers people. The TLD system in China was established as far back as 2003 with the assistance of i-dns - which also runs a root seen in most of Asia and developed a good portion of the tecnology used for IDN. ICANN had nothing to do with it. ICANN is a fools paradise. No one is happy with ICANN. I recommend governments don't end up dependent on ICANN. If you want secure infrastructure - NATIONALIZE YOUR ROOT. Create your own TLD infrastructure that owes no allegiance to ICANN or the U.S. government. That was my advice to the DOC. http://www.ntia.doc.gov/comments/2009/dnstransition/060.pdf If its good for China and America - it's good for you countries people too. regards joe baptista -- Joe Baptista www.publicroot.org PublicRoot Consortium ---------------------------------------------------------------- The future of the Internet is Open, Transparent, Inclusive, Representative & Accountable to the Internet community @large. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Office: +1 (360) 526-6077 (extension 052) Fax: +1 (509) 479-0084 Personal: www.joebaptista.wordpress.com