At 10:06 PM -0700 4/8/07, Bret Fausett wrote:
I'm obviously not explaining myself very well.
Ok, I think I'm getting closer to what you're seeking. Are you asking for list archives of the individual At Large Structures?
I was thinking these: <http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-als_atlarge-lists.icann...> (All Accredited At Large Structures (ALS) in Africa) <http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-als_atlarge-lists.icann...> (ALS Reps in Asia-Pacific) <http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-als_atlarge-lists.icann...> (European ALS Representatives) <http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-als_atlarge-lists.icann....> (ALS Reps in LAC At-Large) <http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-als_atlarge-lists.icann.org>? (North American Region ALS Discussions) I might be misunderstanding what they actually do -- I was guessing their function was to bring together discussion from the individual ALS (like Web405) so ideas are taken from the individual level to the ALAC.
For example, I'm a member of an accredited ALS called "Web405," consisting primarily of Internet professionals in Southern California. You can subscribe to the list easily (see http://www.web405.org/ ) but a long time ago, Web405 members agreed to "No public archiving of Web405 messages." (see http://www.web405.org/guidelines.html ) We've recently talked about new TLDs generally and .XXX specifically, but we have no public archives...by express choice so we're not haunted by our out-dated opinions years from now in Google searches. This strikes me as a reasonable choice for a group of people to make.
It's good that Web405 is active. And I take your point about why you don't want to archive. But of you are an ALS, can't you at least make some comment about ICANN on the site -- this is what we think about x (or xxx)? If they are all like Web405 (an some don't even have websites) then the ALS might look like shells. I should explain why I think this important. On another ALAC list (alac@icann.org, can't find the archive or I'd link to the posts) and a thread "ICANN Seeks Public Comments on Proposed Termsof Reference..." I wrote: "I think ALAC (ALS and RALOs) should see the review as a great opportunity to show what that can do. That the Nominating Committee's being reviewed at the same time might be seen as an opportunity: what can the RALOs and ALS contribute to the NomCom, could the[y] play a greater role in making selections? (NomCom's missed named: it's a selection committee.) NomCom (I'm the associate chair, but speaking for myself not the committee) held a workshop in Lisbon. Not very well attended, but Vint Cerf's comments are worth noting <http://www.icann.org/meetings/lisbon/transcript-nomcom-28mar07.htm> VINT CERF: It occurs to me -- I can't predict this, of course, but it occurs to me that if we are successful with the rapidly forming RALO structure that some day we might imagine that board members might be appointed by those RALOs. We're not there yet. But is it possible that we can now go to the formed RALOs and say, in emulation of what might ultimately occur, can you supply recommendations for people to serve on the ALAC. (end [Vint] quote) Not the first time I've heard Vint mention this possibility. ALAC proving that it really does enable "individual Internet users' informed participation in ICANN" would be a good challenge for the review. It's not clear to me how how that really happens. Adam" So I can see a time when ALAC might select Directors, and might be able to move from providing non-voting liaisons to other supporting organizations to taking on a voting role. This possibility has been mentioned by Vint and others --tentatively, with caveats--, but it seems to be there as a possibility. But I think we can be sure this won't happen unless it is clear to all that the ALS are really functioning to bring the views of Internet users. Transparency is essential, or ALS, RALO and ALAC may look like a few individuals rather than something more representative. ALAC currently does not have a strong reputation with the rest of the ICANN community. Thanks, Adam
If you're looking for a publicly archived list of respresentatives from the various ALSs to talk specifically about ICANN policy, then I think you're talking about the RALO lists which, to the best of my knowledge, are publicly archived. (see http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo )
-- Bret