Hi Siva If I may be allowed a brief intervention from the NC-ALAC liaison peanut gallery: As you know, some of us are having heated debates on this on the governance list and did in Nairobi as well. One aspect that hasn't gotten much attention in these contexts is whether the Indian government undertook domestic level consultations with relevant business, technical community, and civil society actors. In Nairobi I asked several Indians, including the delegation from Tata, whether they had any idea what their government was advocating in their name, and the answer was no. So one really helpful step you could take here is to get the word out nationally and see whether any sort of shared position either way can be stated. You may recall that amidst the Nairobi debates some Brazilian CS people came out against what their government was doing in IBSA, and this had a significant effect in softening the Brazilian position, which resulted in an Indian rather than an IBSA proposal to the UNGA. Just a thought, Bill On Oct 28, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Sivasubramanian M wrote:
Dear Carlton
Thank you. It would be of ample help if there are more opinions on this development, especially by those from developing countries.
This is what I wrote to our Government earlier on the IBSA proposal:
--- begin quote from what I wrote earlier --- The proposal to "establish a new Global body "located within the UN system", "tasked to develop ... policies" and to "oversee bodies responsible for the technical and operational functioning of the Internet including standards setting", "undertake arbitration and dispute resolution" and "be responsible for crisis management" is a proposal to offer the Internet bundled with the IETF to the ITU or an ITU-controlled or an ITU-friendly new global body within the UN system where ITU is comfortable. It is perhaps with these apprehensions that the draft has been criticized as "unimaginative, backward-looking, and authoritarian and ... very destructive" and has generated a loud discussion among Civil Society participants. --- end of quote
Sivasubramanian M
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks for sharing, Siva. Helluva thing to be the canary in the mine.
Carlton
============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:21 AM, Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello,
http://news.dot-nxt.com/2011/10/27/india-proposes-government-control-interne...
This is from Kieren MacCarthy's article:
"In a statement<
http://news.dot-nxt.com/2011/10/27/un-ga-india-cirp-proposal> sent
yesterday, India argued for the creation of a new body to be called the United Nations Committee for Internet-Related Policies (CIRP) which
would
develop Internet policies, oversee all Internet standards bodies and policy organizations, negotiate Internet-related treaties, and act as an arbitrator in Internet-related disputes. The CIRP would exist under the United Nations, comprise of 50 Member States, be funded by the United Nations, run by staff from the UN’s Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) arm, and report directly to the UN General Assembly."
# And the Government spokesperson argued that this “should not be viewed as an attempt by governments to ‘take over’ or ‘regulate and circumscribe’ the Internet.” !!
# The IBSA proposal was badly criticized by the Civil Society in the lists and at the Nairobi Internet Governance Forum, it appeared that India wasn't the prime contributor to that imaginative proposal, but those of us who believed that India couldn't have proposed or fully endorsed the first IBSA proposal --- we were wrong.
Sivasubramanian M ISOC India Chennai http://isocindiachennai.org _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org