Number of Recipients to Mailing Lists
Dear All: In keeping with a request from the Chair of the ALAC, responding to many community requests, the total number of recipients of emails to the At-Large lists has been limited to five per email. This is by way of helping to reduce crossposting and of multiple copies of the same message being received by recipients who are at the same time direct recipients of a message and mailing list members. If you receive a bounce from the mailing lists, and you are subscribed and routinely are able to send emails to that list, please look at the number of recipients the message had. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff@atlarge.icann.org
Nick and all, Thank you for admitting that the chair is interested in censorship. Such a practice, as you should know is a very questionable one in that it violates IETF standard, is prelude to a waste of bandwidth, limits freedom of expression which is also a very questionable Constitutional issue/violation in the US, is not in keeping with the MOU, and serves as a significant potential for Forwarding to other recipients that would normally have been "CC'ed" in the original post, and BTW, "CC'ing" is not cross posting by definition, and also serves as an influence on additionally wasting electricity, which in the present resource conservation movement of such a resource gives the appearance of misuse under the law intentionally. In any event, and as a result of this belated notice, I shall resend my posts of today to ALL of the original recipients separately in accordance to this horrible and illegitimate notice accordingly. At-Large Staff wrote:
Dear All:
In keeping with a request from the Chair of the ALAC, responding to many community requests, the total number of recipients of emails to the At-Large lists has been limited to five per email.
This is by way of helping to reduce crossposting and of multiple copies of the same message being received by recipients who are at the same time direct recipients of a message and mailing list members.
If you receive a bounce from the mailing lists, and you are subscribed and routinely are able to send emails to that list, please look at the number of recipients the message had. -- Regards,
Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff@atlarge.icann.org
Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827
I thought we had said three (3) but if it was five (5) so be it... We may need to look at this in our review though... CLO -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of At-Large Staff Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 2:42 PM To: At-Large Worldwide Subject: [At-Large] Number of Recipients to Mailing Lists Dear All: In keeping with a request from the Chair of the ALAC, responding to many community requests, the total number of recipients of emails to the At-Large lists has been limited to five per email. This is by way of helping to reduce crossposting and of multiple copies of the same message being received by recipients who are at the same time direct recipients of a message and mailing list members. If you receive a bounce from the mailing lists, and you are subscribed and routinely are able to send emails to that list, please look at the number of recipients the message had. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff@atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/technology/30flaw.html?em&ex=1217649600&en... Excerpt: "The flaw that Mr. Kaminsky discovered is in the Domain Name System, a kind of automated phone book that converts human-friendly addresses like google.com into machine-friendly numeric counterparts. The potential consequences of the flaw are significant. It could allow a criminal to redirect Web traffic secretly, so that a person typing a banks actual Web address would be sent to an impostor site set up to steal the users name and password. The user might have no clue about the misdirection, and unconfirmed reports in the Web community indicate that attempted attacks are already under way. The problem is analogous to the risk of phoning directory assistance at, for example, AT&T, asking for the number for Bank of America and being given an illicit number at which an operator masquerading as a bank employee asks for your account number and password. The online flaw and the rush to repair it are an urgent reminder that the Internet remains a sometimes anarchic jumble of jurisdictions. No single person or group can step in to protect the online transactions of millions of users. Internet security rests on the shoulders of people like Mr. Kaminsky, a director at IOActive, a computer security firm, who had to persuade other experts that the problem was real." **************************************************************************** ******** SCANNED **************************************************************************** ********
Beau and all, Interesting article, thank you for pointing it out. Unfortunately Google.com is not human/user-friendly what so ever. Niether is ATT.NET, see: http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=att.net&token=00804ef9... Further the responsibility resides with of this long standing DNS security hole has been known for years, nearly a decade, it was right of Mr. Kiminsky to publicize it more forcibly so that users will be more aware and be armed with good and accurate information by which they can take measures to protect themselves accordingly, either independently or through their service providers accordingly. ICANN and the IANA along with ISC through one Paul Vixie could, and should have address this and many other less severe DNS security problems long ago when they were first made aware of the problem, but balked to a great degree in doing so. This was long ago discussed on the old and now defunct DNSO GA ML to which I have repeatedly given a URL link to, and have a retained full independent archive of. Sooner or later ICANN is going to have to face the legal music for this one! I and our members have had, and will always have a zero tolerance policy for those that act irresponsibly, or don't take corrective action for known or suspected technical related security problems when they knew better. Paul Vixie and others knew well in advance of this and other DNS security holes, and Paul is a very sharp fellow, so he knew this problem was there and didn't strongly enough recomend getting it fixed ASAP. I like and respect Paul allot, but he dropped the ball on this, and few others of this nature... "Brendler, Beau" wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/technology/30flaw.html?em&ex=1217649600&en...
Excerpt:
"The flaw that Mr. Kaminsky discovered is in the Domain Name System, a kind of automated phone book that converts human-friendly addresses like google.com into machine-friendly numeric counterparts.
The potential consequences of the flaw are significant. It could allow a criminal to redirect Web traffic secretly, so that a person typing a banks actual Web address would be sent to an impostor site set up to steal the users name and password. The user might have no clue about the misdirection, and unconfirmed reports in the Web community indicate that attempted attacks are already under way.
The problem is analogous to the risk of phoning directory assistance at, for example, AT&T, asking for the number for Bank of America and being given an illicit number at which an operator masquerading as a bank employee asks for your account number and password.
The online flaw and the rush to repair it are an urgent reminder that the Internet remains a sometimes anarchic jumble of jurisdictions. No single person or group can step in to protect the online transactions of millions of users. Internet security rests on the shoulders of people like Mr. Kaminsky, a director at IOActive, a computer security firm, who had to persuade other experts that the problem was real."
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Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827
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At-Large Staff -
Brendler, Beau -
Cheryl Langdon-Orr -
Jeffrey A. Williams