JFC, Have you heard about the Internet? It is a great tool to do some research with... Google BCP38 or even look at it on wikipedia and you will know. I'm not here to train people, but will gladly answer their questions. Also look at BGP on wikipedia, even most of the IETF protocols and workgroups are explained on wikipedia. You will find quickly why BGP will not scale and why IETF is working on a replacement. As for the IETF, I agree with Brian Carpenter, IETF is not here to do awareness, this is the role of ISOC. IETF is here to work on standards, and should be focused on just doing that. ISOC has been lacking a proper education and policy department but now they have one, and produce now a very good IETF journal. So next time ask ISOC to come, you will see, it will work better. Cheers -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Franck Martin franck.martin@gmail.com http://www.peachymango.org/ "Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question" G. Bachelard