here is the presentation given to me by Izumi, and base of our presentation (Cheryl and me). thank`s Cheryl. DRAFT ALAC Comment on IPv4 depletion and IPv6 migration Ver. 0.9 (Oct 30, 2007) We are aware that sometime within a few years current pool of IPv4 address will expire which may have significant impact on the use of Internet by broad public. We like to ask the global address allocation registries to make sure that the allocation of remaining pool of IPv4 address will be done in a fair and equitable manner. The challenge here is what exactly we mean by “fair and equitable” – and we understand that this requires open and inclusive policy development process. We respect the works done by the RIRs so far and we are willing to actively participate more. We are concerned about the potential creation of “black market” of the IPv4 addresses and call for a rational ways to make secondary market a reality. We also call for a reasonable way of recollecting the unused IPv4 address blocks. We also like to call for more outreach work initiated by the address community to make sure that the issues are understood clearly and the solutions are communicated openly. We understand that the best solution to this challenge is to make smooth and orderly transition to the broad use of IPv6. There are several challenges and tasks to make that to happen: - Organize awareness campaign for the need for timely transition - Avoid media hypes by providing accurate information to wider public - Make sure all “public sites” by governments and commercial service providers implement IPv4-v6 dual capacity in time - Measures be taken to help developing countries to prepare the transition in a timely and affordable manner - Prepare a timeline under which we can operate the transition program, such as outreach, technical assistance and other preparation in a timely manner so that suitable, reliable and effective planning can be made Carlos Dionisio Aguirre abogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - * / 423-5423 www.sitioderecho.com.ar www.densi.com.ar > Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:59:22 +1100> From: cheryl@hovtek.com.au> To: alac-internal@atlarge-lsts.icann.org> CC: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] DRAFT ALAC comment on IPv4 depletion and IPv6 migration> > > > Good afternoon,> I have just come from the presentation of this statement by Carlos on > behalf of ALAC, to the ASO... (please note I have not included here > the draft text as I was off the email grid when it was circulated to > lists on Monday but if it did not go to both lists then I implore > someone to rectify that I now have read on local network and send via > my mail server as the only option :-(> > Some *brief points* that will be further discussed in ALAC meetings > should be noted by all of you interested in this matter of v4 -> v6...> > Firstly our presentation was most warmly and generously received, and > our thanks go to Carlos Aguirre for both his presentation and his work > in preparing for this matter when Izumi (our normal lead in this > topic) was unable to stay in LA for this meeting...> > It is my firm belief that as a result of his representation to the ASO > meeting, we have established a clear profile as a 'party of interest' > which needs to be involved with the policy deliberation processes that > occurs in this group (not only in the important issue of IPv4 > distribution) but also any other matters that effect us as the end > user (i.e. consumers of the services) that the addressing > infrastructure provides for...> > Secondly several questions were asked, and comments made, after the > presentation...> > Carlos will fully outline these in his report back to ALAC on this > meeting, but a few excellent suggestions regarding a change of the > terms used in our draft document were made, and should be noted by the > At-Large Community, as we will desire YOUR input on these particular > points, as we do our edit...> > Specifically these were the use of 'migration' this term has certain > contextual / interpretation issues and it is advised that we should > replace it in our documentation with the term "transition", and the > very valid point that the use of the term "black-market" needs > replacing with a nomenclature that indicates that it is an undesirable > secondary market... the potential of what does the word 'hype' means > in the draft was pre-emptively dealt with by Carlos in his annotation > to that section and also requires attention.> > Also ARIN have kindly supplied us with access to some of their plain > language summary of issues texts which will greatly enhance our own > outreach efforts in our regions and local environments and *most > importantly* have already done extensive translation pieces of this > text which we can use AND seem willing to explore possible assistance > to us in translation to language not currently addressed in their > document repository.> > Finally this is a clear invitation (if not mandated requirement) for > us to be actively involved in the policy development *particularly* at > the policy development points in the community input into the regional > registry processes this constituency uses... And as they use a > regional based system which mirrors our own interaction and mutual > exchange of idea points do not need to be "created" they do however > need to be locally actioned.> > And I know I personally look forward to our future work together in > matters of mutual interest.> > Kindest regards,> > Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO)> > > > > > _______________________________________________> ALAC mailing list> ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org> > At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org> ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

I hope that ALAC will present the text in the Public Forum, post it on our website, and send it to ASO, Board and any other party directly, so that it demonstrates our committment clearly visible. izumi 2007/11/1, cheryl@hovtek.com.au <cheryl@hovtek.com.au>:

Good afternoon, I have just come from the presentation of this statement by Carlos on behalf of ALAC, to the ASO... (please note I have not included here the draft text as I was off the email grid when it was circulated to lists on Monday but if it did not go to both lists then I implore someone to rectify that I now have read on local network and send via my mail server as the only option :-(

Some *brief points* that will be further discussed in ALAC meetings should be noted by all of you interested in this matter of v4 -> v6...

Firstly our presentation was most warmly and generously received, and our thanks go to Carlos Aguirre for both his presentation and his work in preparing for this matter when Izumi (our normal lead in this topic) was unable to stay in LA for this meeting...

It is my firm belief that as a result of his representation to the ASO meeting, we have established a clear profile as a 'party of interest' which needs to be involved with the policy deliberation processes that occurs in this group (not only in the important issue of IPv4 distribution) but also any other matters that effect us as the end user (i.e. consumers of the services) that the addressing infrastructure provides for...

Secondly several questions were asked, and comments made, after the presentation...

Carlos will fully outline these in his report back to ALAC on this meeting, but a few excellent suggestions regarding a change of the terms used in our draft document were made, and should be noted by the At-Large Community, as we will desire YOUR input on these particular points, as we do our edit...

Specifically these were the use of 'migration' this term has certain contextual / interpretation issues and it is advised that we should replace it in our documentation with the term "transition", and the very valid point that the use of the term "black-market" needs replacing with a nomenclature that indicates that it is an undesirable secondary market... the potential of what does the word 'hype' means in the draft was pre-emptively dealt with by Carlos in his annotation to that section and also requires attention.

Also ARIN have kindly supplied us with access to some of their plain language summary of issues texts which will greatly enhance our own outreach efforts in our regions and local environments and *most importantly* have already done extensive translation pieces of this text which we can use AND seem willing to explore possible assistance to us in translation to language not currently addressed in their document repository.

Finally this is a clear invitation (if not mandated requirement) for us to be actively involved in the policy development *particularly* at the policy development points in the community input into the regional registry processes this constituency uses... And as they use a regional based system which mirrors our own interaction and mutual exchange of idea points do not need to be "created" they do however need to be locally actioned.

And I know I personally look forward to our future work together in matters of mutual interest.

Kindest regards,

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO)

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