Robert and all, Well thank god you don't represent ALL canadians, or the rest of the world, eh? However for the most part I agree, the WHOIS situation has been debated and discussed to death and there is no change from already entrenched and established positions. The one area were I, and our members agree with Danny is with Whois accuracy. That is to say that contact information, such as abuse. contact Email addresses, and phone contact information for same is often times not accurate and should be required to be so. Google and Wikipedia are two more well known violators of inaccuracy and no admin. Email contact in the case of Google. Of course it appears that both Vint Cerf, and DOC/NTIA are seemingly unable or unwilling to insist that their Whois info. is accurate and an abuse contact Email address is reachable and avaliable. This is indeed unfortunate and reprehensable at a minimum. As our members, myself very much included are disgusted in Google's behavior in part as a result of their inaccurate Whois and Domain name registration information, we have discontinued some time ago now using Google or doing any business with them as they have repeatedly demonstrated a intent to be allow unchecked the proliferation of spam, phishing, and the propagation of Child pornography via their services with seeming impunity. Certainly this is the identical position of our members in Canada at least, as well as our members in the US and 78 other countries. -----Original Message-----

From: Robert Guerra <lists@privaterra.info> Sent: Apr 28, 2008 7:19 PM To: At-Large Worldwide <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [At-Large] GAC Recommendations for WHOIS Studies

For me - the issue has been studied to death. Any further studies are a stalling tactic

Either set a deadline, or get rid of it.

regards

Robert

On 24-Apr-08, at 7:41 PM, Danny Younger wrote:

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http://www.icann.org/correspondence/karlins-to-thrush-16apr08.pdf

The GAC has put forward 15+ topics related to WHOIS that they believe should be studied. The GNSO WG that is focused on the same topic will tender its own recommendations on 22 May. On the GNSO WG are three at-large participants (myself, Beau Brendler, Wendy Seltzer) that could benefit from your input.

If you believe that certain studies are warranted, please tell us and offer up your particular recommendations. If you believe that further studies are nothing more than a stalling tactic being exploited by certain constituencies to hamper privacy initiatives and that no more studies are actually warranted, feel free to tell us that as well.

Whatever your views, we will be happy to convey them.

If you would like to communicate your thoughts directly to your GAC representative, contact details are here: http://gac.icann.org/web/contact/reps/index.shtml

If you would like to formulate WHOIS policy, please join the ALAC WHOIS WG -- signup details at http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/whois-wg_atlarge-lists.icann...

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