Schedule Posted for ICANN’s 30th International Public Meeting
Dear At-Large & ALAC colleagues: Please note that ICANN has just posted it's schedule for the upcoming meeting in LA (see below) . ALAC nor At-Large events, do not seem to be listed. That being said, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) has created a conference planning committee to develop a at-large schedule, one that hopefully will include a strategy day as well as more closely coordinate with ICANN staff so that key sessions related to at-large activities don't coincide with other events and/or sessions taking place. In order to plan in an open and transparent fashion, the planning subcommittee suggestions that you post any suggestions and/or comments on this list - so that comments are available to all. regards Robert -- Participants have six weeks to plan their ICANN meeting participation and input 14 September 2007 MARINA DEL REY, Calif.: ICANN today released the schedule for its upcoming 30th International Public Meeting slated for 29 October to 2 November in Los Angeles. “We wanted to get the schedule out well in advance of the meeting so the more than 1,000 people expected to attend can start planning their participation and be aware of the issues on the table,” said Paul Levins, Executive Office and Vice President, Corporate Affairs with ICANN. “The Los Angeles meeting is historic for ICANN – it is our 30th, it marks the end of Vint Cerf’s term as chair, will welcome ICANN’s new chair, and of course there will be discussions of major issues, including new generic top-level domains and internationalized domain names.” “On Tuesday night ICANN will host the meeting’s tribute to Vint Cerf to thank him for eight years of volunteer service on the board, seven of those as chair,” Levins added. The meeting, which also serves as ICANN’s 2007 annual general meeting, takes place at the Hilton Los Angeles Airport. “If you care about the Internet, if you care that it works for you every day, then the ICANN meeting is a great place to get involved,” Levins added. “We encourage the business and technical communities as well as individuals to come along. Best of all, registration is free.” To learn more about the meeting go to http://losangeles2007.icann.org. To view the schedule directly go to http://losangeles2007.icann.org/ schedule.
Hi all, We will also need to add "Summit Planning" to the agenda. D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Robert Guerra Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:35 PM To: At-Large Worldwide Subject: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting Dear At-Large & ALAC colleagues: Please note that ICANN has just posted it's schedule for the upcoming meeting in LA (see below) . ALAC nor At-Large events, do not seem to be listed. That being said, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) has created a conference planning committee to develop a at-large schedule, one that hopefully will include a strategy day as well as more closely coordinate with ICANN staff so that key sessions related to at-large activities don't coincide with other events and/or sessions taking place. In order to plan in an open and transparent fashion, the planning subcommittee suggestions that you post any suggestions and/or comments on this list - so that comments are available to all. regards Robert -- Participants have six weeks to plan their ICANN meeting participation and input 14 September 2007 MARINA DEL REY, Calif.: ICANN today released the schedule for its upcoming 30th International Public Meeting slated for 29 October to 2 November in Los Angeles. "We wanted to get the schedule out well in advance of the meeting so the more than 1,000 people expected to attend can start planning their participation and be aware of the issues on the table," said Paul Levins, Executive Office and Vice President, Corporate Affairs with ICANN. "The Los Angeles meeting is historic for ICANN - it is our 30th, it marks the end of Vint Cerf's term as chair, will welcome ICANN's new chair, and of course there will be discussions of major issues, including new generic top-level domains and internationalized domain names." "On Tuesday night ICANN will host the meeting's tribute to Vint Cerf to thank him for eight years of volunteer service on the board, seven of those as chair," Levins added. The meeting, which also serves as ICANN's 2007 annual general meeting, takes place at the Hilton Los Angeles Airport. "If you care about the Internet, if you care that it works for you every day, then the ICANN meeting is a great place to get involved," Levins added. "We encourage the business and technical communities as well as individuals to come along. Best of all, registration is free." To learn more about the meeting go to http://losangeles2007.icann.org. To view the schedule directly go to http://losangeles2007.icann.org/ schedule. _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann .org At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org
Darlene: What is your preference for the session - start (Sun/mon), middle (tue/wed) or towards the end (thurs) of the week? regards, Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377 On 18-Sep-07, at 10:28 AM, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Hi all,
We will also need to add "Summit Planning" to the agenda.
D
Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Robert Guerra Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:35 PM To: At-Large Worldwide Subject: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting
Dear At-Large & ALAC colleagues:
Please note that ICANN has just posted it's schedule for the upcoming meeting in LA (see below) . ALAC nor At-Large events, do not seem to be listed.
That being said, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) has created a conference planning committee to develop a at-large schedule, one that hopefully will include a strategy day as well as more closely coordinate with ICANN staff so that key sessions related to at-large activities don't coincide with other events and/or sessions taking place.
In order to plan in an open and transparent fashion, the planning subcommittee suggestions that you post any suggestions and/or comments on this list - so that comments are available to all.
regards
Robert --
Participants have six weeks to plan their ICANN meeting participation and input 14 September 2007 MARINA DEL REY, Calif.: ICANN today released the schedule for its upcoming 30th International Public Meeting slated for 29 October to 2 November in Los Angeles.
"We wanted to get the schedule out well in advance of the meeting so the more than 1,000 people expected to attend can start planning their participation and be aware of the issues on the table," said Paul Levins, Executive Office and Vice President, Corporate Affairs with ICANN. "The Los Angeles meeting is historic for ICANN - it is our 30th, it marks the end of Vint Cerf's term as chair, will welcome ICANN's new chair, and of course there will be discussions of major issues, including new generic top-level domains and internationalized domain names."
"On Tuesday night ICANN will host the meeting's tribute to Vint Cerf to thank him for eight years of volunteer service on the board, seven of those as chair," Levins added.
The meeting, which also serves as ICANN's 2007 annual general meeting, takes place at the Hilton Los Angeles Airport.
"If you care about the Internet, if you care that it works for you every day, then the ICANN meeting is a great place to get involved," Levins added. "We encourage the business and technical communities as well as individuals to come along. Best of all, registration is free."
To learn more about the meeting go to http://losangeles2007.icann.org.
To view the schedule directly go to http://losangeles2007.icann.org/ schedule.
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge- lists.icann .org
At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge- lists.icann.org
At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org
I'm thinking that the sooner the better for the first one so that we can all get on the same page and do further planning throughout. I'm thinking more than one session will be needed. Anybody else have thoughts on this? Thanks, Robert! D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: Robert Guerra [mailto:lists@privaterra.info] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:55 AM To: Thompson, Darlene Cc: At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting Darlene: What is your preference for the session - start (Sun/mon), middle (tue/wed) or towards the end (thurs) of the week? regards, Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377 On 18-Sep-07, at 10:28 AM, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Hi all,
We will also need to add "Summit Planning" to the agenda.
D
Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Robert Guerra Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:35 PM To: At-Large Worldwide Subject: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting
Dear At-Large & ALAC colleagues:
Please note that ICANN has just posted it's schedule for the upcoming meeting in LA (see below) . ALAC nor At-Large events, do not seem to be listed.
That being said, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) has created a conference planning committee to develop a at-large schedule, one that hopefully will include a strategy day as well as more closely coordinate with ICANN staff so that key sessions related to at-large activities don't coincide with other events and/or sessions taking place.
In order to plan in an open and transparent fashion, the planning subcommittee suggestions that you post any suggestions and/or comments on this list - so that comments are available to all.
regards
Robert --
Participants have six weeks to plan their ICANN meeting participation and input 14 September 2007 MARINA DEL REY, Calif.: ICANN today released the schedule for its upcoming 30th International Public Meeting slated for 29 October to 2 November in Los Angeles.
"We wanted to get the schedule out well in advance of the meeting so the more than 1,000 people expected to attend can start planning their participation and be aware of the issues on the table," said Paul Levins, Executive Office and Vice President, Corporate Affairs with ICANN. "The Los Angeles meeting is historic for ICANN - it is our 30th, it marks the end of Vint Cerf's term as chair, will welcome ICANN's new chair, and of course there will be discussions of major issues, including new generic top-level domains and internationalized domain names."
"On Tuesday night ICANN will host the meeting's tribute to Vint Cerf to thank him for eight years of volunteer service on the board, seven of those as chair," Levins added.
The meeting, which also serves as ICANN's 2007 annual general meeting, takes place at the Hilton Los Angeles Airport.
"If you care about the Internet, if you care that it works for you every day, then the ICANN meeting is a great place to get involved," Levins added. "We encourage the business and technical communities as well as individuals to come along. Best of all, registration is free."
To learn more about the meeting go to http://losangeles2007.icann.org.
To view the schedule directly go to http://losangeles2007.icann.org/ schedule.
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge- lists.icann .org
At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge- lists.icann.org
At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org
Darlene: let me suggest that a short briefing of the summit be done at the ALAC strategy session (likely sunday), with at least two follow-up presentations to all of at-large , and then another for other key ICANN folks (such as staff, board, etc). I would suggest that a briefing session take place early on (mon/ tues) so that it can then be presented at one of the the open microphone sessions of the board. That way, people know about it first - and then gets introduced in an open session, and in the transcript. as for timing, someone would have to go over the schedule that's been posted on the icann site and suggest the best timing. In terms of ALAC, let me suggest - sunday - short briefing 5-10 min on Summit . Objective would be to have the summit included in the ALAC strategic plan for 07/08 regards, Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377 On 18-Sep-07, at 11:11 AM, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
I'm thinking that the sooner the better for the first one so that we can all get on the same page and do further planning throughout.
I'm thinking more than one session will be needed.
Anybody else have thoughts on this?
Thanks, Robert!
D
Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca
-----Original Message----- From: Robert Guerra [mailto:lists@privaterra.info] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:55 AM To: Thompson, Darlene Cc: At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting
Darlene:
What is your preference for the session - start (Sun/mon), middle (tue/wed) or towards the end (thurs) of the week?
regards,
Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377
On 18-Sep-07, at 10:28 AM, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Hi all,
We will also need to add "Summit Planning" to the agenda.
D
Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Robert Guerra Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:35 PM To: At-Large Worldwide Subject: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting
Dear At-Large & ALAC colleagues:
Please note that ICANN has just posted it's schedule for the upcoming meeting in LA (see below) . ALAC nor At-Large events, do not seem to be listed.
That being said, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) has created a conference planning committee to develop a at-large schedule, one that hopefully will include a strategy day as well as more closely coordinate with ICANN staff so that key sessions related to at-large activities don't coincide with other events and/or sessions taking place.
In order to plan in an open and transparent fashion, the planning subcommittee suggestions that you post any suggestions and/or comments on this list - so that comments are available to all.
regards
Robert --
Participants have six weeks to plan their ICANN meeting participation and input 14 September 2007 MARINA DEL REY, Calif.: ICANN today released the schedule for its upcoming 30th International Public Meeting slated for 29 October to 2 November in Los Angeles.
"We wanted to get the schedule out well in advance of the meeting so the more than 1,000 people expected to attend can start planning their participation and be aware of the issues on the table," said Paul Levins, Executive Office and Vice President, Corporate Affairs with ICANN. "The Los Angeles meeting is historic for ICANN - it is our 30th, it marks the end of Vint Cerf's term as chair, will welcome ICANN's new chair, and of course there will be discussions of major issues, including new generic top-level domains and internationalized domain names."
"On Tuesday night ICANN will host the meeting's tribute to Vint Cerf to thank him for eight years of volunteer service on the board, seven of those as chair," Levins added.
The meeting, which also serves as ICANN's 2007 annual general meeting, takes place at the Hilton Los Angeles Airport.
"If you care about the Internet, if you care that it works for you every day, then the ICANN meeting is a great place to get involved," Levins added. "We encourage the business and technical communities as well as individuals to come along. Best of all, registration is free."
To learn more about the meeting go to http:// losangeles2007.icann.org.
To view the schedule directly go to http://losangeles2007.icann.org/ schedule.
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge- lists.icann .org
At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge- lists.icann.org
At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org
Robert, I like the Sunday idea but we aren't even close to giving follow up "presentations" at this point as we haven't yet settled on exactly what form the Summit will take and need to have a really good open strategizing session before anything like that happens. We need to be locked into a room so that we can hash out exactly what we expect of the Summit before doing any presentations. Oh, and I like your idea of getting it into the transcript and in open session. D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: Robert Guerra [mailto:lists@privaterra.info] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:26 AM To: Thompson, Darlene Cc: At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting Darlene: let me suggest that a short briefing of the summit be done at the ALAC strategy session (likely sunday), with at least two follow-up presentations to all of at-large , and then another for other key ICANN folks (such as staff, board, etc). I would suggest that a briefing session take place early on (mon/ tues) so that it can then be presented at one of the the open microphone sessions of the board. That way, people know about it first - and then gets introduced in an open session, and in the transcript. as for timing, someone would have to go over the schedule that's been posted on the icann site and suggest the best timing. In terms of ALAC, let me suggest - sunday - short briefing 5-10 min on Summit . Objective would be to have the summit included in the ALAC strategic plan for 07/08 regards, Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377 On 18-Sep-07, at 11:11 AM, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
I'm thinking that the sooner the better for the first one so that we can all get on the same page and do further planning throughout.
I'm thinking more than one session will be needed.
Anybody else have thoughts on this?
Thanks, Robert!
D
Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca
-----Original Message----- From: Robert Guerra [mailto:lists@privaterra.info] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:55 AM To: Thompson, Darlene Cc: At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting
Darlene:
What is your preference for the session - start (Sun/mon), middle (tue/wed) or towards the end (thurs) of the week?
regards,
Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377
On 18-Sep-07, at 10:28 AM, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Hi all,
We will also need to add "Summit Planning" to the agenda.
D
Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Robert Guerra Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:35 PM To: At-Large Worldwide Subject: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting
Dear At-Large & ALAC colleagues:
Please note that ICANN has just posted it's schedule for the upcoming meeting in LA (see below) . ALAC nor At-Large events, do not seem to be listed.
That being said, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) has created a conference planning committee to develop a at-large schedule, one that hopefully will include a strategy day as well as more closely coordinate with ICANN staff so that key sessions related to at-large activities don't coincide with other events and/or sessions taking place.
In order to plan in an open and transparent fashion, the planning subcommittee suggestions that you post any suggestions and/or comments on this list - so that comments are available to all.
regards
Robert --
Participants have six weeks to plan their ICANN meeting participation and input 14 September 2007 MARINA DEL REY, Calif.: ICANN today released the schedule for its upcoming 30th International Public Meeting slated for 29 October to 2 November in Los Angeles.
"We wanted to get the schedule out well in advance of the meeting so the more than 1,000 people expected to attend can start planning their participation and be aware of the issues on the table," said Paul Levins, Executive Office and Vice President, Corporate Affairs with ICANN. "The Los Angeles meeting is historic for ICANN - it is our 30th, it marks the end of Vint Cerf's term as chair, will welcome ICANN's new chair, and of course there will be discussions of major issues, including new generic top-level domains and internationalized domain names."
"On Tuesday night ICANN will host the meeting's tribute to Vint Cerf to thank him for eight years of volunteer service on the board, seven of those as chair," Levins added.
The meeting, which also serves as ICANN's 2007 annual general meeting, takes place at the Hilton Los Angeles Airport.
"If you care about the Internet, if you care that it works for you every day, then the ICANN meeting is a great place to get involved," Levins added. "We encourage the business and technical communities as well as individuals to come along. Best of all, registration is free."
To learn more about the meeting go to http:// losangeles2007.icann.org.
To view the schedule directly go to http://losangeles2007.icann.org/ schedule.
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge- lists.icann .org
At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge- lists.icann.org
At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org
Hi, Robert and others, Sunday session could be a good start but you might not know that many people from Asia won't arrive until Sunday evening or Monday morning. If they are flying, it will be even difficult to arrange online participation on Sunday. Shall we consider scheduling a large (maybe informal) gathering for all the ALSes from all five continents in the middle of the week, when it may better publicize At-large in the whole ICANN community? Hong On 9/18/07, Robert Guerra <lists@privaterra.info> wrote:
Darlene:
let me suggest that a short briefing of the summit be done at the ALAC strategy session (likely sunday), with at least two follow-up presentations to all of at-large , and then another for other key ICANN folks (such as staff, board, etc).
I would suggest that a briefing session take place early on (mon/ tues) so that it can then be presented at one of the the open microphone sessions of the board. That way, people know about it first - and then gets introduced in an open session, and in the transcript.
as for timing, someone would have to go over the schedule that's been posted on the icann site and suggest the best timing.
In terms of ALAC, let me suggest -
sunday - short briefing 5-10 min on Summit . Objective would be to have the summit included in the ALAC strategic plan for 07/08
regards,
Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377
On 18-Sep-07, at 11:11 AM, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
I'm thinking that the sooner the better for the first one so that we can all get on the same page and do further planning throughout.
I'm thinking more than one session will be needed.
Anybody else have thoughts on this?
Thanks, Robert!
D
Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca
-----Original Message----- From: Robert Guerra [mailto:lists@privaterra.info] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:55 AM To: Thompson, Darlene Cc: At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting
Darlene:
What is your preference for the session - start (Sun/mon), middle (tue/wed) or towards the end (thurs) of the week?
regards,
Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377
On 18-Sep-07, at 10:28 AM, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Hi all,
We will also need to add "Summit Planning" to the agenda.
D
Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Robert Guerra Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:35 PM To: At-Large Worldwide Subject: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting
Dear At-Large & ALAC colleagues:
Please note that ICANN has just posted it's schedule for the upcoming meeting in LA (see below) . ALAC nor At-Large events, do not seem to be listed.
That being said, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) has created a conference planning committee to develop a at-large schedule, one that hopefully will include a strategy day as well as more closely coordinate with ICANN staff so that key sessions related to at-large activities don't coincide with other events and/or sessions taking place.
In order to plan in an open and transparent fashion, the planning subcommittee suggestions that you post any suggestions and/or comments on this list - so that comments are available to all.
regards
Robert --
Participants have six weeks to plan their ICANN meeting participation and input 14 September 2007 MARINA DEL REY, Calif.: ICANN today released the schedule for its upcoming 30th International Public Meeting slated for 29 October to 2 November in Los Angeles.
"We wanted to get the schedule out well in advance of the meeting so the more than 1,000 people expected to attend can start planning their participation and be aware of the issues on the table," said Paul Levins, Executive Office and Vice President, Corporate Affairs with ICANN. "The Los Angeles meeting is historic for ICANN - it is our 30th, it marks the end of Vint Cerf's term as chair, will welcome ICANN's new chair, and of course there will be discussions of major issues, including new generic top-level domains and internationalized domain names."
"On Tuesday night ICANN will host the meeting's tribute to Vint Cerf to thank him for eight years of volunteer service on the board, seven of those as chair," Levins added.
The meeting, which also serves as ICANN's 2007 annual general meeting, takes place at the Hilton Los Angeles Airport.
"If you care about the Internet, if you care that it works for you every day, then the ICANN meeting is a great place to get involved," Levins added. "We encourage the business and technical communities as well as individuals to come along. Best of all, registration is free."
To learn more about the meeting go to http:// losangeles2007.icann.org.
To view the schedule directly go to http://losangeles2007.icann.org/ schedule.
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge- lists.icann .org
At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge- lists.icann.org
At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org
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Hong: timezones - argh! I would have hoped that travel could be coordinated in such a way so that people could arrive not on the sunday, but by saturday by the latest. That being said, if sat arrival is not possible - then we'll have to try what ever is possible to accommodate those who can't come earlier. Personally, I think the agenda for the week should be flexible enough so that sessions can be organized if needed - and translation provided. Worse case, those of us who speak more then one language can try to translate for our fellow colleagues. Let me suggest we all at least meet together for breakfast - that way we can plan our days together, as well as share information from the previous day. In a sense, if we are a committee that should act like a team - we should, given the limited opportunities that we have - coordinate our time together. regards, Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377 On 19-Sep-07, at 1:04 AM, Hong Xue wrote:
Hi, Robert and others,
Sunday session could be a good start but you might not know that many people from Asia won't arrive until Sunday evening or Monday morning. If they are flying, it will be even difficult to arrange online participation on Sunday. Shall we consider scheduling a large (maybe informal) gathering for all the ALSes from all five continents in the middle of the week, when it may better publicize At-large in the whole ICANN community?
Hong
On 9/18/07, Robert Guerra <lists@privaterra.info> wrote: Darlene:
let me suggest that a short briefing of the summit be done at the ALAC strategy session (likely sunday), with at least two follow-up presentations to all of at-large , and then another for other key ICANN folks (such as staff, board, etc).
I would suggest that a briefing session take place early on (mon/ tues) so that it can then be presented at one of the the open microphone sessions of the board. That way, people know about it first - and then gets introduced in an open session, and in the transcript.
as for timing, someone would have to go over the schedule that's been posted on the icann site and suggest the best timing.
In terms of ALAC, let me suggest -
sunday - short briefing 5-10 min on Summit . Objective would be to have the summit included in the ALAC strategic plan for 07/08
regards,
Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377
On 18-Sep-07, at 11:11 AM, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
I'm thinking that the sooner the better for the first one so that we can all get on the same page and do further planning throughout.
I'm thinking more than one session will be needed.
Anybody else have thoughts on this?
Thanks, Robert!
D
Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca
-----Original Message----- From: Robert Guerra [mailto:lists@privaterra.info] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:55 AM To: Thompson, Darlene Cc: At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting
Darlene:
What is your preference for the session - start (Sun/mon), middle (tue/wed) or towards the end (thurs) of the week?
regards,
Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377
On 18-Sep-07, at 10:28 AM, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Hi all,
We will also need to add "Summit Planning" to the agenda.
D
Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Robert Guerra Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:35 PM To: At-Large Worldwide Subject: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting
Dear At-Large & ALAC colleagues:
Please note that ICANN has just posted it's schedule for the upcoming meeting in LA (see below) . ALAC nor At-Large events, do not seem to be listed.
That being said, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) has created a conference planning committee to develop a at-large schedule, one that hopefully will include a strategy day as well as more closely coordinate with ICANN staff so that key sessions related to at- large activities don't coincide with other events and/or sessions taking place.
In order to plan in an open and transparent fashion, the planning subcommittee suggestions that you post any suggestions and/or comments on this list - so that comments are available to all.
regards
Robert --
Participants have six weeks to plan their ICANN meeting participation and input 14 September 2007 MARINA DEL REY, Calif.: ICANN today released the schedule for its upcoming 30th International Public Meeting slated for 29 October to 2 November in Los Angeles.
"We wanted to get the schedule out well in advance of the meeting so the more than 1,000 people expected to attend can start planning their participation and be aware of the issues on the table," said Paul Levins, Executive Office and Vice President, Corporate Affairs with ICANN. "The Los Angeles meeting is historic for ICANN - it is our 30th, it marks the end of Vint Cerf's term as chair, will welcome ICANN's new chair, and of course there will be discussions of major issues, including new generic top-level domains and internationalized domain names."
"On Tuesday night ICANN will host the meeting's tribute to Vint Cerf to thank him for eight years of volunteer service on the board, seven of those as chair," Levins added.
The meeting, which also serves as ICANN's 2007 annual general meeting, takes place at the Hilton Los Angeles Airport.
"If you care about the Internet, if you care that it works for you every day, then the ICANN meeting is a great place to get involved," Levins added. "We encourage the business and technical communities as well as individuals to come along. Best of all, registration is free."
To learn more about the meeting go to http:// losangeles2007.icann.org.
To view the schedule directly go to http:// losangeles2007.icann.org/ schedule.
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I can understand how it might be appealing to organise meetings on short notice for those attending them - however, this will not be possible; it puts an undue strain on the meetings staff and it also makes the community look disorganised. Every other constituency within ICANN manages to set its schedule well in advance - and manages to do its meetings with relatively few meetings which are for the community alone. We will be unable to accommodate requests for new meetings which are made any less than two weeks before the start of the meeting on Monday 29th October. That means no new meetings which involve ICANN staff support, meeting rooms, interpretation, A/V requirements, and the like can be scheduled if requested after 15 October. To remind the public list as I have reminded the private list: there are members of the committee who really need interpretation to participate fully, so I would hope that you would try to do any real work at sessions where that can be provided... On 20 Sep 2007, at 00:04, Robert Guerra wrote:
Hong:
timezones - argh!
I would have hoped that travel could be coordinated in such a way so that people could arrive not on the sunday, but by saturday by the latest.
That being said, if sat arrival is not possible - then we'll have to try what ever is possible to accommodate those who can't come earlier.
Personally, I think the agenda for the week should be flexible enough so that sessions can be organized if needed - and translation provided. Worse case, those of us who speak more then one language can try to translate for our fellow colleagues.
Let me suggest we all at least meet together for breakfast - that way we can plan our days together, as well as share information from the previous day. In a sense, if we are a committee that should act like a team - we should, given the limited opportunities that we have - coordinate our time together.
regards,
Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377
On 19-Sep-07, at 1:04 AM, Hong Xue wrote:
Hi, Robert and others,
Sunday session could be a good start but you might not know that many people from Asia won't arrive until Sunday evening or Monday morning. If they are flying, it will be even difficult to arrange online participation on Sunday. Shall we consider scheduling a large (maybe informal) gathering for all the ALSes from all five continents in the middle of the week, when it may better publicize At-large in the whole ICANN community?
Hong
On 9/18/07, Robert Guerra <lists@privaterra.info> wrote: Darlene:
let me suggest that a short briefing of the summit be done at the ALAC strategy session (likely sunday), with at least two follow-up presentations to all of at-large , and then another for other key ICANN folks (such as staff, board, etc).
I would suggest that a briefing session take place early on (mon/ tues) so that it can then be presented at one of the the open microphone sessions of the board. That way, people know about it first - and then gets introduced in an open session, and in the transcript.
as for timing, someone would have to go over the schedule that's been posted on the icann site and suggest the best timing.
In terms of ALAC, let me suggest -
sunday - short briefing 5-10 min on Summit . Objective would be to have the summit included in the ALAC strategic plan for 07/08
regards,
Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377
On 18-Sep-07, at 11:11 AM, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
I'm thinking that the sooner the better for the first one so that we can all get on the same page and do further planning throughout.
I'm thinking more than one session will be needed.
Anybody else have thoughts on this?
Thanks, Robert!
D
Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca
-----Original Message----- From: Robert Guerra [mailto:lists@privaterra.info] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:55 AM To: Thompson, Darlene Cc: At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting
Darlene:
What is your preference for the session - start (Sun/mon), middle (tue/wed) or towards the end (thurs) of the week?
regards,
Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377
On 18-Sep-07, at 10:28 AM, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Hi all,
We will also need to add "Summit Planning" to the agenda.
D
Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Robert Guerra Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:35 PM To: At-Large Worldwide Subject: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting
Dear At-Large & ALAC colleagues:
Please note that ICANN has just posted it's schedule for the upcoming meeting in LA (see below) . ALAC nor At-Large events, do not seem to be listed.
That being said, the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) has created a conference planning committee to develop a at-large schedule, one that hopefully will include a strategy day as well as more closely coordinate with ICANN staff so that key sessions related to at- large activities don't coincide with other events and/or sessions taking place.
In order to plan in an open and transparent fashion, the planning subcommittee suggestions that you post any suggestions and/or comments on this list - so that comments are available to all.
regards
Robert --
Participants have six weeks to plan their ICANN meeting participation and input 14 September 2007 MARINA DEL REY, Calif.: ICANN today released the schedule for its upcoming 30th International Public Meeting slated for 29 October to 2 November in Los Angeles.
"We wanted to get the schedule out well in advance of the meeting so the more than 1,000 people expected to attend can start planning their participation and be aware of the issues on the table," said Paul Levins, Executive Office and Vice President, Corporate Affairs with ICANN. "The Los Angeles meeting is historic for ICANN - it is our 30th, it marks the end of Vint Cerf's term as chair, will welcome ICANN's new chair, and of course there will be discussions of major issues, including new generic top-level domains and internationalized domain names."
"On Tuesday night ICANN will host the meeting's tribute to Vint Cerf to thank him for eight years of volunteer service on the board, seven of those as chair," Levins added.
The meeting, which also serves as ICANN's 2007 annual general meeting, takes place at the Hilton Los Angeles Airport.
"If you care about the Internet, if you care that it works for you every day, then the ICANN meeting is a great place to get involved," Levins added. "We encourage the business and technical communities as well as individuals to come along. Best of all, registration is free."
To learn more about the meeting go to http:// losangeles2007.icann.org.
To view the schedule directly go to http:// losangeles2007.icann.org/ schedule.
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First, i'm a bit frustrated with alot going on in at-large and ALAC at the moment. So this message is likely to be a bit of rant. I apologize in advance , but certain things need to be said - in an open list... Nick: I think there are numerous issues where we agree - for example, i concur that meetings should be planned well in advance as it allows people to better plan their schedule and important meetings to be scheduled. Translation is also important, and know oh too well - that such things need to be done well in advance. In my opinion, ALAC, should have at least proposed a draft meeting agenda ahead of the last conference call. Recognizing that developing an agenda is important a sub-committee was created in name only, as no substantial work nor discussion is taking place at all. Yes, I'm a member of the subcommittee - however i've not been given a mandate to unilaterally make recommendations both for the committee nor ALAC as a whole. Should the sub-committee chair and/or the ALAC as a whole mandate me to unilaterally create an agenda/schdule and collaborate with you to book times, meetings, etc - then fine. Let me then submit a proposal - Does the ALAC chair and LA planning sub-committee which to mandate a specific person to volunteer to collaborate with ICANN staff (Nick and others) to plan and develop an agenda for the LA meeting. YES - OK TO DELEGATE PLANNING AND AGENDA SETTING AUTHORITY to a specific person NO - CHAIR & SUBCOMMITTEE, THOUGH INACTIVE PREFER TO WAIT.
We will be unable to accommodate requests for new meetings which are made any less than two weeks before the start of the meeting on Monday 29th October.
Completely understand..
To remind the public list as I have reminded the private list: there are members of the committee who really need interpretation to participate fully, so I would hope that you would try to do any real work at sessions where that can be provided...
let me also make the point that if sub-committees are created, then people should put in time, energy and effort to get things done. If not, then - please don't create a committee in the first place. Smaller constituencies with far less resources then at-large are able to develop a schedule and work strategically. At-large should meet the challenge, try to change, or admit that it can't do the task and free up the funding to others who could likely do things far better. So what can be done - please, pitch in and help. Comment both on the agenda and the proposal Veronica has for a strategic planning session for the meeting. The failure of substantive discussion & contributions - specifically by ALAC members - will indeed prove that the critics of the at-large structure are correct.. I hate to be so blunt, i'm just frustrated. Please colleagues, prove my comments are wrong and that all this time, energy, and multi-million dollar investment in At-large is indeed constructive. regards Robert
I'm happy to help in any way I can of course. As you know I did put together a list of time slots on various days that looked to be the least-likely to conflict with other things, which you quickly commented on. Let us hope that the other members of the agenda working group will speak up very soon to avoid delays in scheduling. Note that the ALAC and Secretariat meetings will appear in the online schedule just as soon as ALAC decides when it wishes to meet, and what it wishes to meet about. I will ensure that the necessary supporting requirements, technical and otherwise, are arranged too. On 20 Sep 2007, at 20:24, lists@privaterra.info wrote:
First, i'm a bit frustrated with alot going on in at-large and ALAC at the moment. So this message is likely to be a bit of rant. I apologize in advance , but certain things need to be said - in an open list...
Nick:
I think there are numerous issues where we agree - for example, i concur that meetings should be planned well in advance as it allows people to better plan their schedule and important meetings to be scheduled. Translation is also important, and know oh too well - that such things need to be done well in advance.
In my opinion, ALAC, should have at least proposed a draft meeting agenda ahead of the last conference call. Recognizing that developing an agenda is important a sub-committee was created in name only, as no substantial work nor discussion is taking place at all.
Yes, I'm a member of the subcommittee - however i've not been given a mandate to unilaterally make recommendations both for the committee nor ALAC as a whole. Should the sub-committee chair and/or the ALAC as a whole mandate me to unilaterally create an agenda/schdule and collaborate with you to book times, meetings, etc - then fine.
Let me then submit a proposal - Does the ALAC chair and LA planning sub-committee which to mandate a specific person to volunteer to collaborate with ICANN staff (Nick and others) to plan and develop an agenda for the LA meeting.
YES - OK TO DELEGATE PLANNING AND AGENDA SETTING AUTHORITY to a specific person NO - CHAIR & SUBCOMMITTEE, THOUGH INACTIVE PREFER TO WAIT.
We will be unable to accommodate requests for new meetings which are made any less than two weeks before the start of the meeting on Monday 29th October.
Completely understand..
To remind the public list as I have reminded the private list: there are members of the committee who really need interpretation to participate fully, so I would hope that you would try to do any real work at sessions where that can be provided...
let me also make the point that if sub-committees are created, then people should put in time, energy and effort to get things done. If not, then - please don't create a committee in the first place.
Smaller constituencies with far less resources then at-large are able to develop a schedule and work strategically. At-large should meet the challenge, try to change, or admit that it can't do the task and free up the funding to others who could likely do things far better.
So what can be done - please, pitch in and help. Comment both on the agenda and the proposal Veronica has for a strategic planning session for the meeting.
The failure of substantive discussion & contributions - specifically by ALAC members - will indeed prove that the critics of the at-large structure are correct..
I hate to be so blunt, i'm just frustrated.
Please colleagues, prove my comments are wrong and that all this time, energy, and multi-million dollar investment in At-large is indeed constructive.
regards
Robert
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Thompson, Darlene wrote:
I'm thinking that the sooner the better for the first one so that we can all get on the same page and do further planning throughout.
I'm thinking more than one session will be needed.
Anybody else have thoughts on this?
My suggestion is for at least three things: 1) Specific inclusion of a Summit status report and discussion on the ALAC meeting agenda (whenever that takes place) 2) A public meeting to introduce the concept to all ICANN constituencies (early in the week) 3) at least eight hours of planning, of which at least one has Nick (or someone else from ICANN staff) present. Some of this will probably be a small enough group that it can meet in a hotel room rather than requiring the expense of a formal meeting room. - Evan
First, I'm not surprised but I am disturbed that ICANN failed to host a NARALO meeting. Anyway, I presume we'll try to be brief yet functional on these matters. I think when you announce the idea, you should solicit input on what the ALSs want to get out of the summit. One session on opening day would be good, and one more later in the week, possibly 3 brief meetings would be better than one. aloha, RJ On 9/18/07, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:
Thompson, Darlene wrote:
I'm thinking that the sooner the better for the first one so that we can all get on the same page and do further planning throughout.
I'm thinking more than one session will be needed.
Anybody else have thoughts on this?
My suggestion is for at least three things:
1) Specific inclusion of a Summit status report and discussion on the ALAC meeting agenda (whenever that takes place)
2) A public meeting to introduce the concept to all ICANN constituencies (early in the week)
3) at least eight hours of planning, of which at least one has Nick (or someone else from ICANN staff) present. Some of this will probably be a small enough group that it can meet in a hotel room rather than requiring the expense of a formal meeting room.
- Evan
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RJ, why would this surprise you? Why would you expect to be hosted for a NARALO meeting at two ICANN meetings in a row? No other region would receive such treatment; the budget simply doesn't make that possible. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Office Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 Office Fax: +41 (22) 594 8544 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 5468 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart ----- Original message ----- From: "RJGlass | America@Large" <jipshida@gmail.com> To: "Evan Leibovitch" <evan@telly.org> Cc: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson@gov.nu.ca>, "At-Large Worldwide" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:51:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting First, I'm not surprised but I am disturbed that ICANN failed to host a NARALO meeting. Anyway, I presume we'll try to be brief yet functional on these matters. I think when you announce the idea, you should solicit input on what the ALSs want to get out of the summit. One session on opening day would be good, and one more later in the week, possibly 3 brief meetings would be better than one. aloha, RJ On 9/18/07, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:
Thompson, Darlene wrote:
I'm thinking that the sooner the better for the first one so that we can all get on the same page and do further planning throughout.
I'm thinking more than one session will be needed.
Anybody else have thoughts on this?
My suggestion is for at least three things:
1) Specific inclusion of a Summit status report and discussion on the ALAC meeting agenda (whenever that takes place)
2) A public meeting to introduce the concept to all ICANN constituencies (early in the week)
3) at least eight hours of planning, of which at least one has Nick (or someone else from ICANN staff) present. Some of this will probably be a small enough group that it can meet in a hotel room rather than requiring the expense of a formal meeting room.
- Evan
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Nick, Maybe because now the NARALO will now be going 3 years without a meeting, which the other regions would not be put through, either. NARALO didn't meet before forming up (although LAC got to meet twice); therefore, saving ICANN money. Now that we did what ICANN wanted and rushed about getting formed up, we are being denied the opportunity and means to do outreach for the next three years (which we asked to be able to do), thereby stagnating. This isn't very encouraging. Darlene -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Nick Ashton-Hart Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:13 AM To: RJGlass | America@Large; Evan Leibovitch Cc: Thompson, Darlene; At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th InternationalPublic Meeting RJ, why would this surprise you? Why would you expect to be hosted for a NARALO meeting at two ICANN meetings in a row? No other region would receive such treatment; the budget simply doesn't make that possible. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Office Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 Office Fax: +41 (22) 594 8544 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 5468 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart ----- Original message ----- From: "RJGlass | America@Large" <jipshida@gmail.com> To: "Evan Leibovitch" <evan@telly.org> Cc: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson@gov.nu.ca>, "At-Large Worldwide" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:51:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting First, I'm not surprised but I am disturbed that ICANN failed to host a NARALO meeting. Anyway, I presume we'll try to be brief yet functional on these matters. I think when you announce the idea, you should solicit input on what the ALSs want to get out of the summit. One session on opening day would be good, and one more later in the week, possibly 3 brief meetings would be better than one. aloha, RJ On 9/18/07, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:
Thompson, Darlene wrote:
I'm thinking that the sooner the better for the first one so that we
can
all get on the same page and do further planning throughout.
I'm thinking more than one session will be needed.
Anybody else have thoughts on this?
My suggestion is for at least three things:
1) Specific inclusion of a Summit status report and discussion on the ALAC meeting agenda (whenever that takes place)
2) A public meeting to introduce the concept to all ICANN constituencies (early in the week)
3) at least eight hours of planning, of which at least one has Nick (or someone else from ICANN staff) present. Some of this will probably be a small enough group that it can meet in a hotel room rather than requiring the expense of a formal meeting room.
- Evan
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Hopefully the email I sent between this one below and the present one will help to answer some of these points. Since the NARALO met only in June, it has of course met in the last three years. I presume you are excepting this meeting from consideration for whatever reason. NARALO had opportunities to meet before forming up - most recently earlier in the year, only a couple of months before the San Juan meeting, and declined the opportunity to do so. Further, and this is particularly important: ICANN's model is not that work gets done at F2F meetings - but the opposite; every other community does the vast majority of its work between F2F meetings. It isn't sustainable for At-Large to do the reverse of what all other communities are in the habit of doing. Civil society groups in ICANN, in particular in the NCUC, do a considerable amount of work between ICANN meetings and without any travel support at all. My strong suggestion to everyone is to look for ways to work without requiring face-to-face meetings to the extent that is practicable. On 19 Sep 2007, at 15:52, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Nick,
Maybe because now the NARALO will now be going 3 years without a meeting, which the other regions would not be put through, either.
NARALO didn't meet before forming up (although LAC got to meet twice); therefore, saving ICANN money. Now that we did what ICANN wanted and rushed about getting formed up, we are being denied the opportunity and means to do outreach for the next three years (which we asked to be able to do), thereby stagnating.
This isn't very encouraging.
Darlene
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RJ, why would this surprise you? Why would you expect to be hosted for a NARALO meeting at two ICANN meetings in a row? No other region would receive such treatment; the budget simply doesn't make that possible.
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----- Original message ----- From: "RJGlass | America@Large" <jipshida@gmail.com> To: "Evan Leibovitch" <evan@telly.org> Cc: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson@gov.nu.ca>, "At-Large Worldwide" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:51:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting
First, I'm not surprised but I am disturbed that ICANN failed to host a NARALO meeting.
Anyway, I presume we'll try to be brief yet functional on these matters.
I think when you announce the idea, you should solicit input on what the ALSs want to get out of the summit. One session on opening day would be good, and one more later in the week, possibly 3 brief meetings would be better than one.
aloha, RJ
On 9/18/07, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:
Thompson, Darlene wrote:
I'm thinking that the sooner the better for the first one so that we
can
all get on the same page and do further planning throughout.
I'm thinking more than one session will be needed.
Anybody else have thoughts on this?
My suggestion is for at least three things:
1) Specific inclusion of a Summit status report and discussion on the ALAC meeting agenda (whenever that takes place)
2) A public meeting to introduce the concept to all ICANN constituencies (early in the week)
3) at least eight hours of planning, of which at least one has Nick (or someone else from ICANN staff) present. Some of this will probably be a small enough group that it can meet in a hotel room rather than requiring the expense of a formal meeting room.
- Evan
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Frankly, this IS disturbing. At the San Juan meeting, the NARALO was specifically told that if we did not come up with a plan of what we wanted to do this year, then ICANN would have make one up of their own devising. So, to that end, we all met upstairs and came up with a plan: https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi?planning_next_steps_for_na_ralo This plan, along with the budget attached, was discussed more than once over the list and forwarded widely. Staff was also informed that it was up and that they should look at it (since this Wiki seems to be the ICANN choice for information sharing). And then nothing happened. So, if they aren't approving the outreach that we wanted to do in LA, my question is: so what wild and wonderful thing DID they come up with for our region for this year since we have been told NO to almost anything we have wanted to do? Sorry, just my brain dump for the morning. D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca ________________________________ From: RJGlass | America@Large [mailto:jipshida@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:52 PM To: Evan Leibovitch Cc: Thompson, Darlene; At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting First, I'm not surprised but I am disturbed that ICANN failed to host a NARALO meeting. Anyway, I presume we'll try to be brief yet functional on these matters. I think when you announce the idea, you should solicit input on what the ALSs want to get out of the summit. One session on opening day would be good, and one more later in the week, possibly 3 brief meetings would be better than one. aloha, RJ On 9/18/07, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote: Thompson, Darlene wrote:
I'm thinking that the sooner the better for the first one so that we can all get on the same page and do further planning throughout.
I'm thinking more than one session will be needed.
Anybody else have thoughts on this?
My suggestion is for at least three things: 1) Specific inclusion of a Summit status report and discussion on the ALAC meeting agenda (whenever that takes place) 2) A public meeting to introduce the concept to all ICANN constituencies (early in the week) 3) at least eight hours of planning, of which at least one has Nick (or someone else from ICANN staff) present. Some of this will probably be a small enough group that it can meet in a hotel room rather than requiring the expense of a formal meeting room. - Evan _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann .org At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org -- ------------------------- AmericaAtLarge.org RJPacific.com DDMF.org
Darlene, Sorry, but I don't see any forward progress on any of the policy elements outlined in the Plan. Without any evidence of policy "work" being accomplished regarding registrant rights, new gTLDs, IDNs, IPv6 or DNSSEC as outlined in the plan, why should ICANN pay for a get-together session? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
Ummmm... Danny, I *believe* you were on the last telephone call where these policy issues were assigned to various interested parties to be researched, written up and brought forward at our next telephone conference and could also be discussed face-to-face? I think that is progress. Plus, the idea behind the LA meeting, for the NARALO was more to do outreach than policy. So, I think that we have proven that we are trying to do both. Policy on our own and outreach with ICANNs help. What else is there? What MORE are you looking for? D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: Danny Younger [mailto:dannyyounger@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:08 AM To: Thompson, Darlene; RJGlass | America@Large; Evan Leibovitch Cc: At-Large Worldwide; NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting Darlene, Sorry, but I don't see any forward progress on any of the policy elements outlined in the Plan. Without any evidence of policy "work" being accomplished regarding registrant rights, new gTLDs, IDNs, IPv6 or DNSSEC as outlined in the plan, why should ICANN pay for a get-together session? ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
I think perhaps we have been talking at cross-purposes here. I am familiar with the list of priorities; I attended the meeting where they were drawn up. In order for ICANN to allocate funds to something, as I have previously said, there is a form for requesting them which requires a plan and a budget - the budget not being a one-line entry on a spreadsheet, and the plan not being a one-line entry next to it. We had a number of emails about the subject of recruitment at the time, and I believe also this was discussed on one of the monthly teleconferences as well. I remember that I said if you wanted to have a recruitment event associated with the LA meeting, it was for you to tell me what you wanted to do and come up with a plan of what you wanted to do, and that it could not just be a way to get 20 ALSes to come to the LA meeting for a de-facto additonal RALO meeting. We seem to be going in circles here, where everytime the circle comes to me, I get to be the bad guy again and go on defense. Not being funny, but we don't get anywhere that way. I am not sure what is going wrong that these comments are not getting through - perhaps I'm saying it wrong or being unclear in some way but honestly - I'm absolutely certain that all of you would be better-able to suggest how to do North American outreach than I would be. Jacob has resigned, so there is no regional liaison available at the present to help with this. I am happy to help in whatever way I can, but what I have in front of me now is a line or two in a spreadsheet, related to recruitment in LA. With respect to everyone, that isn't a plan. If there's something more and I've missed it, please let me know what it is... or ask me to ring and we can discuss it. That would, it seems to me, be rather more productive than playing email ping-pong on this issue. On 19 Sep 2007, at 14:23, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Frankly, this IS disturbing. At the San Juan meeting, the NARALO was specifically told that if we did not come up with a plan of what we wanted to do this year, then ICANN would have make one up of their own devising. So, to that end, we all met upstairs and came up with a plan:
https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi?planning_next_steps_for_na_ralo
This plan, along with the budget attached, was discussed more than once over the list and forwarded widely. Staff was also informed that it was up and that they should look at it (since this Wiki seems to be the ICANN choice for information sharing).
And then nothing happened.
So, if they aren’t approving the outreach that we wanted to do in LA, my question is: so what wild and wonderful thing DID they come up with for our region for this year since we have been told NO to almost anything we have wanted to do?
Sorry, just my brain dump for the morning.
D
Darlene A. Thompson
Community Access Program Administrator
Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP
c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0
Phone: (867) 975-6531
Fax: (867) 979-8870
dthompson@gov.nu.ca
From: RJGlass | America@Large [mailto:jipshida@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:52 PM To: Evan Leibovitch Cc: Thompson, Darlene; At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting
First, I'm not surprised but I am disturbed that ICANN failed to host a NARALO meeting.
Anyway, I presume we'll try to be brief yet functional on these matters.
I think when you announce the idea, you should solicit input on what the ALSs want to get out of the summit. One session on opening day would be good, and one more later in the week, possibly 3 brief meetings would be better than one.
aloha, RJ
On 9/18/07, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:
Thompson, Darlene wrote:
I'm thinking that the sooner the better for the first one so that we can all get on the same page and do further planning throughout.
I'm thinking more than one session will be needed.
Anybody else have thoughts on this?
My suggestion is for at least three things:
1) Specific inclusion of a Summit status report and discussion on the ALAC meeting agenda (whenever that takes place)
2) A public meeting to introduce the concept to all ICANN constituencies (early in the week)
3) at least eight hours of planning, of which at least one has Nick (or someone else from ICANN staff) present. Some of this will probably be a small enough group that it can meet in a hotel room rather than requiring the expense of a formal meeting room.
- Evan
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Hi Nick, I really don't want you to get on the defensive here and I am not trying to paint you as the "bad guy". I do, however, think that you were rather overburdened in San Juan and I *know* that I got conflicting instructions from you. Here are my replies to your e-mail: In order for ICANN to allocate funds to something, as I have previously said, there is a form for requesting them which requires a plan and a budget - the budget not being a one-line entry on a spreadsheet, and the plan not being a one-line entry next to it. 1. We were told in San Juan to come up with a plan and that you would be able to do up the budget for it because you are used to doing that. We were not told, at that time, that we needed any special form. We showed this to you and you seemed quite happy with it and did not say "And now here is what you need to do...". 2. This is NOT a one-line entry on a spreadsheet and the plan being a one-line entry next to it. The plan is completely set out on the Wiki page that you down-load the spreadsheet from. There are about 3 different line items in the budget that you were going to help us out on relating to the various things that we were going to do. We seem to be going in circles here, where everytime the circle comes to me, I get to be the bad guy again and go on defense. Not being funny, but we don't get anywhere that way. I agree. We were also being told conflicting things in San Juan and it was rather confusing. First we were told that we WOULD be going to LA since we were actually attending a LAC meeting and since we wouldn't be seeing another NA meeting for three whole years. Then we were told that we weren't. Then we were told to come up with a plan REALLY quickly because you needed it right away and that you would help with it. We dropped everything and came up with the plan and then were not told there were next steps. I'm not sure why Jacob was never in the loop with this because he probably could have helped a lot. I realize that you were over-burdened at San Juan. SO - I'm not pointing fingers here but this IS what happened. Unless somebody else's recollection of event is different from mine? Am I going nuts here? D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca ________________________________ From: Nick Ashton-Hart [mailto:nick.ashton-hart@icann.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:30 AM To: Thompson, Darlene Cc: RJGlass | America@Large; Evan Leibovitch; At-Large Worldwide; NA Discuss Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting I think perhaps we have been talking at cross-purposes here. I am familiar with the list of priorities; I attended the meeting where they were drawn up. In order for ICANN to allocate funds to something, as I have previously said, there is a form for requesting them which requires a plan and a budget - the budget not being a one-line entry on a spreadsheet, and the plan not being a one-line entry next to it. We had a number of emails about the subject of recruitment at the time, and I believe also this was discussed on one of the monthly teleconferences as well. I remember that I said if you wanted to have a recruitment event associated with the LA meeting, it was for you to tell me what you wanted to do and come up with a plan of what you wanted to do, and that it could not just be a way to get 20 ALSes to come to the LA meeting for a de-facto additonal RALO meeting. We seem to be going in circles here, where everytime the circle comes to me, I get to be the bad guy again and go on defense. Not being funny, but we don't get anywhere that way. I am not sure what is going wrong that these comments are not getting through - perhaps I'm saying it wrong or being unclear in some way but honestly - I'm absolutely certain that all of you would be better-able to suggest how to do North American outreach than I would be. Jacob has resigned, so there is no regional liaison available at the present to help with this. I am happy to help in whatever way I can, but what I have in front of me now is a line or two in a spreadsheet, related to recruitment in LA. With respect to everyone, that isn't a plan. If there's something more and I've missed it, please let me know what it is... or ask me to ring and we can discuss it. That would, it seems to me, be rather more productive than playing email ping-pong on this issue. On 19 Sep 2007, at 14:23, Thompson, Darlene wrote: Frankly, this IS disturbing. At the San Juan meeting, the NARALO was specifically told that if we did not come up with a plan of what we wanted to do this year, then ICANN would have make one up of their own devising. So, to that end, we all met upstairs and came up with a plan: https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi?planning_next_steps_for_na_ralo This plan, along with the budget attached, was discussed more than once over the list and forwarded widely. Staff was also informed that it was up and that they should look at it (since this Wiki seems to be the ICANN choice for information sharing). And then nothing happened. So, if they aren't approving the outreach that we wanted to do in LA, my question is: so what wild and wonderful thing DID they come up with for our region for this year since we have been told NO to almost anything we have wanted to do? Sorry, just my brain dump for the morning. D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca ________________________________ From: RJGlass | America@Large [mailto:jipshida@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:52 PM To: Evan Leibovitch Cc: Thompson, Darlene; At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting First, I'm not surprised but I am disturbed that ICANN failed to host a NARALO meeting. Anyway, I presume we'll try to be brief yet functional on these matters. I think when you announce the idea, you should solicit input on what the ALSs want to get out of the summit. One session on opening day would be good, and one more later in the week, possibly 3 brief meetings would be better than one. aloha, RJ On 9/18/07, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote: Thompson, Darlene wrote:
I'm thinking that the sooner the better for the first one so that we can all get on the same page and do further planning throughout.
I'm thinking more than one session will be needed.
Anybody else have thoughts on this?
My suggestion is for at least three things: 1) Specific inclusion of a Summit status report and discussion on the ALAC meeting agenda (whenever that takes place) 2) A public meeting to introduce the concept to all ICANN constituencies (early in the week) 3) at least eight hours of planning, of which at least one has Nick (or someone else from ICANN staff) present. Some of this will probably be a small enough group that it can meet in a hotel room rather than requiring the expense of a formal meeting room. - Evan _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann .org At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org -- ------------------------- AmericaAtLarge.org RJPacific.com DDMF.org _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann .org At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org
Darlene: I really cannot imagine how I would have told you that you didn't need to do more than the very brief outlines on the wiki - I was extremely overloaded at San Juan, so perhaps I wasn't clear; it seems that is the case. There has been a form and a process for requesting money for At-Large activities for a year now. When we spoke about the proposal for an At- Large summit I explained that you would need to use that process as that was required for all funds requests. That's what Evan used; my apologies if it was somehow unclear that ALL projects had to use this form, but they do. I did say that I would help with budgeting - but to do that, I would have to have a plan to budget for, and what I have seen is not a plan it is a very general statement or two. I have looked at the page, and I'm sorry but that doesn't BEGIN to approach a plan that I could budget for - or that any decision could be made based upon. Again, if something is missing, then please let me know where it is. I don't know how you could have gotten the idea that you would be going to LA. I recall specifically going over this more than once, including on teleconferences - It has never been possible for one region to go to back-to-back ICANN meetings. You were not attending a LAC meeting - you were attending a NARALO formation meeting - which is what all the agendas said from day one, what the invitation to have travel support said ... You were never invited to attend San Juan as a part of LACRALO. There are dozens of emails about NARALO meeting and North American ALS meeting going back several months. Finally, about the planning things quickly during San Juan - that was about the SUMMIT, not any meetings of NARALO in Los Angeles. This completely mystifies me; we talked about this repeatedly and since you all did actually turn around a proposal for the summit, and not any NARALO meetings, I honestly cannot how you thought anything differently. As to whether or not you are going nuts, I doubt that :) However, what you recollect isn't anything close to what I recall - and in many cases, there is very long chains of emails and recordings of teleconferences where some of these things were discussed that is contrary I believe. Look, this is really very straightforward. ICANN cannot make decisions based upon anything but the same process for everyone, and we cannot be giving one region VASTLY preferential treatment over any others. It would be very helpful if we could stop and simply draw a line here because we are where we are. We can all have many more emails related to what who said to whom when, and I can go dig up emails, and listen again to every teleconference and the like, but to be honest I don't see any value for anyone in any of that. In short: 1) If you want to propose a specific course of action, there is a process and a form associated with that - which is identical to that used for the summit proposal. 2) No region is going to be attending back-to-back ICANN meetings for an All-ALS meeting - there is no budget for that and I refer you all back to my email on the other points related to this. On 19 Sep 2007, at 17:03, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Hi Nick,
I really don’t want you to get on the defensive here and I am not trying to paint you as the “bad guy”. I do, however, think that you were rather overburdened in San Juan and I *know* that I got conflicting instructions from you. Here are my replies to your e- mail:
In order for ICANN to allocate funds to something, as I have previously said, there is a form for requesting them which requires a plan and a budget - the budget not being a one-line entry on a spreadsheet, and the plan not being a one-line entry next to it.
We were told in San Juan to come up with a plan and that you would be able to do up the budget for it because you are used to doing that. We were not told, at that time, that we needed any special form. We showed this to you and you seemed quite happy with it and did not say “And now here is what you need to do…”. This is NOT a one-line entry on a spreadsheet and the plan being a one-line entry next to it. The plan is completely set out on the Wiki page that you down-load the spreadsheet from. There are about 3 different line items in the budget that you were going to help us out on relating to the various things that we were going to do.
We seem to be going in circles here, where everytime the circle comes to me, I get to be the bad guy again and go on defense. Not being funny, but we don't get anywhere that way.
I agree. We were also being told conflicting things in San Juan and it was rather confusing. First we were told that we WOULD be going to LA since we were actually attending a LAC meeting and since we wouldn’t be seeing another NA meeting for three whole years. Then we were told that we weren’t. Then we were told to come up with a plan REALLY quickly because you needed it right away and that you would help with it. We dropped everything and came up with the plan and then were not told there were next steps. I’m not sure why Jacob was never in the loop with this because he probably could have helped a lot. I realize that you were over- burdened at San Juan. SO – I’m not pointing fingers here but this IS what happened.
Unless somebody else’s recollection of event is different from mine? Am I going nuts here?
D
Darlene A. Thompson
Community Access Program Administrator
Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP
c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0
Phone: (867) 975-6531
Fax: (867) 979-8870
dthompson@gov.nu.ca
From: Nick Ashton-Hart [mailto:nick.ashton-hart@icann.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:30 AM To: Thompson, Darlene Cc: RJGlass | America@Large; Evan Leibovitch; At-Large Worldwide; NA Discuss Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting
I think perhaps we have been talking at cross-purposes here.
I am familiar with the list of priorities; I attended the meeting where they were drawn up.
In order for ICANN to allocate funds to something, as I have previously said, there is a form for requesting them which requires a plan and a budget - the budget not being a one-line entry on a spreadsheet, and the plan not being a one-line entry next to it.
We had a number of emails about the subject of recruitment at the time, and I believe also this was discussed on one of the monthly teleconferences as well. I remember that I said if you wanted to have a recruitment event associated with the LA meeting, it was for you to tell me what you wanted to do and come up with a plan of what you wanted to do, and that it could not just be a way to get 20 ALSes to come to the LA meeting for a de-facto additonal RALO meeting.
We seem to be going in circles here, where everytime the circle comes to me, I get to be the bad guy again and go on defense. Not being funny, but we don't get anywhere that way. I am not sure what is going wrong that these comments are not getting through - perhaps I'm saying it wrong or being unclear in some way but honestly - I'm absolutely certain that all of you would be better- able to suggest how to do North American outreach than I would be. Jacob has resigned, so there is no regional liaison available at the present to help with this. I am happy to help in whatever way I can, but what I have in front of me now is a line or two in a spreadsheet, related to recruitment in LA. With respect to everyone, that isn't a plan. If there's something more and I've missed it, please let me know what it is... or ask me to ring and we can discuss it. That would, it seems to me, be rather more productive than playing email ping-pong on this issue.
On 19 Sep 2007, at 14:23, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Frankly, this IS disturbing. At the San Juan meeting, the NARALO was specifically told that if we did not come up with a plan of what we wanted to do this year, then ICANN would have make one up of their own devising. So, to that end, we all met upstairs and came up with a plan:
https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi?planning_next_steps_for_na_ralo
This plan, along with the budget attached, was discussed more than once over the list and forwarded widely. Staff was also informed that it was up and that they should look at it (since this Wiki seems to be the ICANN choice for information sharing).
And then nothing happened.
So, if they aren’t approving the outreach that we wanted to do in LA, my question is: so what wild and wonderful thing DID they come up with for our region for this year since we have been told NO to almost anything we have wanted to do?
Sorry, just my brain dump for the morning.
D
Darlene A. Thompson
Community Access Program Administrator
Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP
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From: RJGlass | America@Large [mailto:jipshida@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:52 PM To: Evan Leibovitch Cc: Thompson, Darlene; At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International Public Meeting
First, I'm not surprised but I am disturbed that ICANN failed to host a NARALO meeting.
Anyway, I presume we'll try to be brief yet functional on these matters.
I think when you announce the idea, you should solicit input on what the ALSs want to get out of the summit. One session on opening day would be good, and one more later in the week, possibly 3 brief meetings would be better than one.
aloha, RJ
On 9/18/07, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:
Thompson, Darlene wrote:
I'm thinking that the sooner the better for the first one so that we can all get on the same page and do further planning throughout.
I'm thinking more than one session will be needed.
Anybody else have thoughts on this?
My suggestion is for at least three things:
1) Specific inclusion of a Summit status report and discussion on the ALAC meeting agenda (whenever that takes place)
2) A public meeting to introduce the concept to all ICANN constituencies (early in the week)
3) at least eight hours of planning, of which at least one has Nick (or someone else from ICANN staff) present. Some of this will probably be a small enough group that it can meet in a hotel room rather than requiring the expense of a formal meeting room.
- Evan
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Hi, Will discussion/selection of new ALAC liaisons to the various councils, etc be discussed in LA. Is there a process for selection? I would like to volunteer to be considered for the position of ALAC liaison to ccNSO. Best, Adam
Dear all, I would like to nominate Adam Peak for the position of ALAC liaison to ccNSO. All the best Annette Adam Peake schrieb:
Hi,
Will discussion/selection of new ALAC liaisons to the various councils, etc be discussed in LA. Is there a process for selection?
I would like to volunteer to be considered for the position of ALAC liaison to ccNSO.
Best,
Adam
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I would like to second the nomination of Adam Peake for the position of ALAC liaison to ccNSO. Regards Guru -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Annette Muehlberg Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 5:28 PM To: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org; alac-internal Subject: Re: [At-Large] ALAC liaison positions Dear all, I would like to nominate Adam Peak for the position of ALAC liaison to ccNSO. All the best Annette Adam Peake schrieb:
Hi,
Will discussion/selection of new ALAC liaisons to the various councils, etc be discussed in LA. Is there a process for selection?
I would like to volunteer to be considered for the position of ALAC liaison to ccNSO.
Best,
Adam
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I second Annette's nomination for Adam Peak for ALAC liaison to ccNSO alice Muehlberg wrote:
Dear all,
I would like to nominate Adam Peak for the position of ALAC liaison to ccNSO.
All the best
Annette
Adam Peake schrieb:
Hi,
Will discussion/selection of new ALAC liaisons to the various councils, etc be discussed in LA. Is there a process for selection?
I would like to volunteer to be considered for the position of ALAC liaison to ccNSO.
Best,
Adam
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participants (12)
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Adam Peake -
alice -
Annette Muehlberg -
Danny Younger -
Evan Leibovitch -
Guru＠ITfC -
Hong Xue -
lists＠privaterra.info -
Nick Ashton-Hart -
RJGlass | America＠Large -
Robert Guerra
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Thompson, Darlene