Re: [At-Large] News on the .health TLD allocation
Dear Rosa, thank you very much for this follow-up. Yes indeed, we have seen this allocation. I note that the successful applicant will enforce restrictions, or at least police applications, in order to reduce the likelyhood of fake pharmacies using the zone. It would be interesting to see performance metrics of such enforcement a few years down the line. Kindest regards, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair On 28/08/2014 13:56, Rosa Delgado wrote:
Dear Olivier and Dev,
Perhaps you have already heard about this news but just in case, pls find below an interesting link. Thank you a lot for the support shown through the Objections filed by the ALAC All the best, Rosa Delgado
*Straat-backed bidder beats Donuts and Afilias to .health* DotHealth has won the four-way contention set for the controversial new gTLD .health.
http://domainincite.com/17207-straat-backed-bidder-beats-donuts-and-afilias-...
Long and painful process, now over -----Original Message----- From: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 11:32 AM To: Rosa Delgado; Dev Anand Teelucksingh Cc: object >> 'ALAC Objections'; At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] News on the .health TLD allocation Dear Rosa, thank you very much for this follow-up. Yes indeed, we have seen this allocation. I note that the successful applicant will enforce restrictions, or at least police applications, in order to reduce the likelyhood of fake pharmacies using the zone. It would be interesting to see performance metrics of such enforcement a few years down the line. Kindest regards, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair On 28/08/2014 13:56, Rosa Delgado wrote:
Dear Olivier and Dev,
Perhaps you have already heard about this news but just in case, pls find below an interesting link. Thank you a lot for the support shown through the Objections filed by the ALAC All the best, Rosa Delgado
*Straat-backed bidder beats Donuts and Afilias to .health* DotHealth has won the four-way contention set for the controversial new gTLD .health.
http://domainincite.com/17207-straat-backed-bidder-beats-donuts-and-af ilias-to-health
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On Friday 29 August 2014 09:02 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
Dear Rosa,
thank you very much for this follow-up. Yes indeed, we have seen this allocation. I note that the successful applicant will enforce restrictions, or at least police applications, in order to reduce the likelyhood of fake pharmacies using the zone.
And of course, for a US based organisations, a fake, or less than fully fine, pharmacy will be a third world organisation selling generic cheap drugs, that are perfectly legal both in that country and any another third world country that it may sell to, but which may not meet the extra ordinarily high intellectual property standards of the US, designed to benefit the rich, and against the poor... The global techno structures become the new international law, in the manner of the famous saying that ' code is law'. while the civil society community around these key governance functions seem least bothered... parminder
It would be interesting to see performance metrics of such enforcement a few years down the line. Kindest regards,
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair
On 28/08/2014 13:56, Rosa Delgado wrote:
Dear Olivier and Dev,
Perhaps you have already heard about this news but just in case, pls find below an interesting link. Thank you a lot for the support shown through the Objections filed by the ALAC All the best, Rosa Delgado
*Straat-backed bidder beats Donuts and Afilias to .health* DotHealth has won the four-way contention set for the controversial new gTLD .health.
http://domainincite.com/17207-straat-backed-bidder-beats-donuts-and-afilias-...
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I think that parminder raises an interesting point. I have never thought it that way - and I don't believe that I am the only one. R.
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On Friday 29 August 2014 09:02 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
Dear Rosa,
thank you very much for this follow-up. Yes indeed, we have seen this allocation. I note that the successful applicant will enforce restrictions, or at least police applications, in order to reduce the likelyhood of fake pharmacies using the zone.
And of course, for a US based organisations, a fake, or less than fully fine, pharmacy will be a third world organisation selling generic cheap drugs, that are perfectly legal both in that country and any another third world country that it may sell to, but which may not meet the extra ordinarily high intellectual property standards of the US, designed to benefit the rich, and against the poor... The global techno structures become the new international law, in the manner of the famous saying that ' code is law'. while the civil society community around these key governance functions seem least bothered... parminder
It would be interesting to see performance metrics of such enforcement a few years down the line. Kindest regards,
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair
On 28/08/2014 13:56, Rosa Delgado wrote:
Dear Olivier and Dev,
Perhaps you have already heard about this news but just in case, pls find below an interesting link. Thank you a lot for the support shown through the Objections filed by the ALAC All the best, Rosa Delgado
*Straat-backed bidder beats Donuts and Afilias to .health* DotHealth has won the four-way contention set for the controversial new gTLD .health.
http://domainincite.com/17207-straat-backed-bidder-beats-donuts-and- a filias-to-health
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The issue has been discussed at some length. I haven't checked the current documents, but at one point, they were saying that to register a domain, you had to meet the regulatory or licensing rules in your country of residence. That being said, the monitoring and supporting organizations they reference are largely US-oriented. It remains to be seen if the TLD ends up being largely US-centric, or has a much wider basis. Alan At 29/08/2014 06:29 PM, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
I think that parminder raises an interesting point. I have never thought it that way - and I don't believe that I am the only one. R.
-----Messaggio originale----- Da: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large- bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di parminder Inviato: venerdì 29 agosto 2014 20:30 A: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Oggetto: Re: [At-Large] News on the .health TLD allocation
On Friday 29 August 2014 09:02 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
Dear Rosa,
thank you very much for this follow-up. Yes indeed, we have seen this allocation. I note that the successful applicant will enforce restrictions, or at least police applications, in order to reduce the likelyhood of fake pharmacies using the zone.
And of course, for a US based organisations, a fake, or less than fully fine, pharmacy will be a third world organisation selling generic cheap drugs, that are perfectly legal both in that country and any another third world country that it may sell to, but which may not meet the extra ordinarily high intellectual property standards of the US, designed to benefit the rich, and against the poor... The global techno structures become the new international law, in the manner of the famous saying that ' code is law'. while the civil society community around these key governance functions seem least bothered... parminder
It would be interesting to see performance metrics of such enforcement a few years down the line. Kindest regards,
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair
On 28/08/2014 13:56, Rosa Delgado wrote:
Dear Olivier and Dev,
Perhaps you have already heard about this news but just in case, pls find below an interesting link. Thank you a lot for the support shown through the Objections filed by the ALAC All the best, Rosa Delgado
*Straat-backed bidder beats Donuts and Afilias to .health* DotHealth has won the four-way contention set for the controversial new gTLD .health.
http://domainincite.com/17207-straat-backed-bidder-beats-donuts-and- a filias-to-health
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It seems to me the key issue is not whether a pharm. name can be registered in this TLD but whether pharmaceutical product can be offered to sell via that name around the world. Currently, this is definitely not the case. Those legitimate drugs meeting the regulatory or licensing rules in say NL may well be banned in many other countries. If this TLD will primarily focus on us market, it won't be very impactful to other countries . Hong Sent from my iPad
On 2014年8月30日, at 上午9:28, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
The issue has been discussed at some length. I haven't checked the current documents, but at one point, they were saying that to register a domain, you had to meet the regulatory or licensing rules in your country of residence. That being said, the monitoring and supporting organizations they reference are largely US-oriented.
It remains to be seen if the TLD ends up being largely US-centric, or has a much wider basis.
Alan
At 29/08/2014 06:29 PM, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
I think that parminder raises an interesting point. I have never thought it that way - and I don't believe that I am the only one. R.
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On Friday 29 August 2014 09:02 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
Dear Rosa,
thank you very much for this follow-up. Yes indeed, we have seen this allocation. I note that the successful applicant will enforce restrictions, or at least police applications, in order to reduce the likelyhood of fake pharmacies using the zone.
And of course, for a US based organisations, a fake, or less than fully fine, pharmacy will be a third world organisation selling generic cheap drugs, that are perfectly legal both in that country and any another third world country that it may sell to, but which may not meet the extra ordinarily high intellectual property standards of the US, designed to benefit the rich, and against the poor... The global techno structures become the new international law, in the manner of the famous saying that ' code is law'. while the civil society community around these key governance functions seem least bothered... parminder
It would be interesting to see performance metrics of such enforcement a few years down the line. Kindest regards,
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair
On 28/08/2014 13:56, Rosa Delgado wrote:
Dear Olivier and Dev,
Perhaps you have already heard about this news but just in case, pls find below an interesting link. Thank you a lot for the support shown through the Objections filed by the ALAC All the best, Rosa Delgado
*Straat-backed bidder beats Donuts and Afilias to .health* DotHealth has won the four-way contention set for the controversial new gTLD .health.
http://domainincite.com/17207-straat-backed-bidder-beats-donuts-and- a filias-to-health
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I personally agree with Hong. Besides the impact in US more than other regions, what I see is a phenomena similar to what happened with .xxx when those running against the law see how easier is to be identified under a focused name like this one, and they will not sign to be inside. It is dangerous than to be open in the cyber space to catch unaware people. So others pharms around the world will face similar conditions. To growth, the owners of .health will need to have similar demand for registration in other countries. Since the process is through registrars, the way is make similar agreements with locals registrars too. Mostly the countries has a register to approved pharmaceutical product to sell inside the country. Last review of Trips also had encourage those signatories not focused on such systems to start to work on it for commercial/economics reasons. kisses Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 On 8/30/14, 23:19, "Hong Xue" <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems to me the key issue is not whether a pharm. name can be registered in this TLD but whether pharmaceutical product can be offered to sell via that name around the world. Currently, this is definitely not the case. Those legitimate drugs meeting the regulatory or licensing rules in say NL may well be banned in many other countries. If this TLD will primarily focus on us market, it won't be very impactful to other countries .
Hong
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On 2014年8月30日, at 上午9:28, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
The issue has been discussed at some length. I haven't checked the current documents, but at one point, they were saying that to register a domain, you had to meet the regulatory or licensing rules in your country of residence. That being said, the monitoring and supporting organizations they reference are largely US-oriented.
It remains to be seen if the TLD ends up being largely US-centric, or has a much wider basis.
Alan
At 29/08/2014 06:29 PM, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
I think that parminder raises an interesting point. I have never thought it that way - and I don't believe that I am the only one. R.
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On Friday 29 August 2014 09:02 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
Dear Rosa,
thank you very much for this follow-up. Yes indeed, we have seen this allocation. I note that the successful applicant will enforce restrictions, or at least police applications, in order to reduce the likelyhood of fake pharmacies using the zone.
And of course, for a US based organisations, a fake, or less than fully fine, pharmacy will be a third world organisation selling generic cheap drugs, that are perfectly legal both in that country and any another third world country that it may sell to, but which may not meet the extra ordinarily high intellectual property standards of the US, designed to benefit the rich, and against the poor... The global techno structures become the new international law, in the manner of the famous saying that ' code is law'. while the civil society community around these key governance functions seem least bothered... parminder
It would be interesting to see performance metrics of such enforcement a few years down the line. Kindest regards,
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair
On 28/08/2014 13:56, Rosa Delgado wrote:
Dear Olivier and Dev,
Perhaps you have already heard about this news but just in case, pls find below an interesting link. Thank you a lot for the support shown through the Objections filed by the ALAC All the best, Rosa Delgado
*Straat-backed bidder beats Donuts and Afilias to .health* DotHealth has won the four-way contention set for the controversial new gTLD .health.
http://domainincite.com/17207-straat-backed-bidder-beats-donuts-and- a
filias-to-health
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The 70's and 80's witnessed serious pressures on companies outside of Big Pharma to pack their bags and get out of some markets. The Cubans, who developed a fairly decent biomedical/pharma industry because of certain privations were heavily impacted. In my jurisdiction there were certain consequences, some of those effects are still being felt today. If you've ever heard of Medimpex or even more recently, some cases of Indian generic manufacturers vs. Big Pharma, it would provide a better sense of why this matters. So now, we move to the web as part of the delivery process. And the possibilities to ramp up certain practices become global and readily so. With respect to ICANN, the problem for those who say 'this has nothing to do with ICANN' comes down to an inability to see how two seemingly unrelated matters connect. Sometimes that position is directly connected to a lack of empathy and not the schooling of dummies. But invoking that 'Pontius Pilate' claim - I wash my hands of it - is as old as it is discreditable. -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Vanda Scartezini <vanda@uol.com.br> wrote:
I personally agree with Hong. Besides the impact in US more than other regions, what I see is a phenomena similar to what happened with .xxx when those running against the law see how easier is to be identified under a focused name like this one, and they will not sign to be inside. It is dangerous than to be open in the cyber space to catch unaware people. So others pharms around the world will face similar conditions. To growth, the owners of .health will need to have similar demand for registration in other countries. Since the process is through registrars, the way is make similar agreements with locals registrars too. Mostly the countries has a register to approved pharmaceutical product to sell inside the country. Last review of Trips also had encourage those signatories not focused on such systems to start to work on it for commercial/economics reasons. kisses Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464
On 8/30/14, 23:19, "Hong Xue" <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems to me the key issue is not whether a pharm. name can be registered in this TLD but whether pharmaceutical product can be offered to sell via that name around the world. Currently, this is definitely not the case. Those legitimate drugs meeting the regulatory or licensing rules in say NL may well be banned in many other countries. If this TLD will primarily focus on us market, it won't be very impactful to other countries .
Hong
Sent from my iPad
On 2014年8月30日, at 上午9:28, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
The issue has been discussed at some length. I haven't checked the current documents, but at one point, they were saying that to register a domain, you had to meet the regulatory or licensing rules in your country of residence. That being said, the monitoring and supporting organizations they reference are largely US-oriented.
It remains to be seen if the TLD ends up being largely US-centric, or has a much wider basis.
Alan
At 29/08/2014 06:29 PM, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
I think that parminder raises an interesting point. I have never thought it that way - and I don't believe that I am the only one. R.
-----Messaggio originale----- Da: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large- bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di parminder Inviato: venerdì 29 agosto 2014 20:30 A: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Oggetto: Re: [At-Large] News on the .health TLD allocation
On Friday 29 August 2014 09:02 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
Dear Rosa,
thank you very much for this follow-up. Yes indeed, we have seen this allocation. I note that the successful applicant will enforce restrictions, or at least police applications, in order to reduce the likelyhood of fake pharmacies using the zone.
And of course, for a US based organisations, a fake, or less than fully fine, pharmacy will be a third world organisation selling generic cheap drugs, that are perfectly legal both in that country and any another third world country that it may sell to, but which may not meet the extra ordinarily high intellectual property standards of the US, designed to benefit the rich, and against the poor... The global techno structures become the new international law, in the manner of the famous saying that ' code is law'. while the civil society community around these key governance functions seem least bothered... parminder
It would be interesting to see performance metrics of such enforcement a few years down the line. Kindest regards,
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair
On 28/08/2014 13:56, Rosa Delgado wrote: > Dear Olivier and Dev, > > Perhaps you have already heard about this news but just in case, pls > find below an interesting link. > Thank you a lot for the support shown through the Objections filed by > the ALAC All the best, Rosa Delgado > > > *Straat-backed bidder beats Donuts and Afilias to .health* DotHealth > has won the four-way contention set for the controversial new gTLD > .health. > > http://domainincite.com/17207-straat-backed-bidder-beats-donuts-and- a > filias-to-health > _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
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+1. Hong says it better. Sometimes herding us into the focus on administrivia serves conveniently to obfuscate the real issue...and away from the most important element that powered the struggle for this string. -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems to me the key issue is not whether a pharm. name can be registered in this TLD but whether pharmaceutical product can be offered to sell via that name around the world. Currently, this is definitely not the case. Those legitimate drugs meeting the regulatory or licensing rules in say NL may well be banned in many other countries. If this TLD will primarily focus on us market, it won't be very impactful to other countries .
Hong
Sent from my iPad
On 2014年8月30日, at 上午9:28, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
The issue has been discussed at some length. I haven't checked the current documents, but at one point, they were saying that to register a domain, you had to meet the regulatory or licensing rules in your country of residence. That being said, the monitoring and supporting organizations they reference are largely US-oriented.
It remains to be seen if the TLD ends up being largely US-centric, or has a much wider basis.
Alan
At 29/08/2014 06:29 PM, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
I think that parminder raises an interesting point. I have never thought it that way - and I don't believe that I am the only one. R.
-----Messaggio originale----- Da: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large- bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di parminder Inviato: venerdì 29 agosto 2014 20:30 A: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org Oggetto: Re: [At-Large] News on the .health TLD allocation
On Friday 29 August 2014 09:02 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
Dear Rosa,
thank you very much for this follow-up. Yes indeed, we have seen this allocation. I note that the successful applicant will enforce restrictions, or at least police applications, in order to reduce the likelyhood of fake pharmacies using the zone.
And of course, for a US based organisations, a fake, or less than fully fine, pharmacy will be a third world organisation selling generic cheap drugs, that are perfectly legal both in that country and any another third world country that it may sell to, but which may not meet the extra ordinarily high intellectual property standards of the US, designed to benefit the rich, and against the poor... The global techno structures become the new international law, in the manner of the famous saying that ' code is law'. while the civil society community around these key governance functions seem least bothered... parminder
It would be interesting to see performance metrics of such enforcement a few years down the line. Kindest regards,
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair
On 28/08/2014 13:56, Rosa Delgado wrote:
Dear Olivier and Dev,
Perhaps you have already heard about this news but just in case, pls find below an interesting link. Thank you a lot for the support shown through the Objections filed by the ALAC All the best, Rosa Delgado
*Straat-backed bidder beats Donuts and Afilias to .health* DotHealth has won the four-way contention set for the controversial new gTLD .health.
http://domainincite.com/17207-straat-backed-bidder-beats-donuts-and- a
filias-to-health
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Quite the truth. "Trust us' does have it downside. Parminder has identified one of them. So-called local marks are also outliers in this game. Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:29 PM, parminder <parminder@itforchange.net> wrote:
On Friday 29 August 2014 09:02 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
Dear Rosa,
thank you very much for this follow-up. Yes indeed, we have seen this allocation. I note that the successful applicant will enforce restrictions, or at least police applications, in order to reduce the likelyhood of fake pharmacies using the zone.
And of course, for a US based organisations, a fake, or less than fully fine, pharmacy will be a third world organisation selling generic cheap drugs, that are perfectly legal both in that country and any another third world country that it may sell to, but which may not meet the extra ordinarily high intellectual property standards of the US, designed to benefit the rich, and against the poor... The global techno structures become the new international law, in the manner of the famous saying that ' code is law'. while the civil society community around these key governance functions seem least bothered... parminder
It would be interesting to see performance
metrics of such enforcement a few years down the line. Kindest regards,
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair
On 28/08/2014 13:56, Rosa Delgado wrote:
Dear Olivier and Dev,
Perhaps you have already heard about this news but just in case, pls find below an interesting link. Thank you a lot for the support shown through the Objections filed by the ALAC All the best, Rosa Delgado
*Straat-backed bidder beats Donuts and Afilias to .health* DotHealth has won the four-way contention set for the controversial new gTLD .health.
http://domainincite.com/17207-straat-backed-bidder-beats- donuts-and-afilias-to-health
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As usual, Parminder fabricates a theory without resorting to facts (or FAQs): http://dothealthgtld.com/faqs.html There is absolutely zero evidence that .health will deny developing country entities the ability to register as long as they abide by "all applicable laws". rgds, McTim On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
Quite the truth. "Trust us' does have it downside. Parminder has identified one of them. So-called local marks are also outliers in this game.
Carlton
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On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:29 PM, parminder <parminder@itforchange.net> wrote:
On Friday 29 August 2014 09:02 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
Dear Rosa,
thank you very much for this follow-up. Yes indeed, we have seen this allocation. I note that the successful applicant will enforce restrictions, or at least police applications, in order to reduce the likelyhood of fake pharmacies using the zone.
And of course, for a US based organisations, a fake, or less than fully fine, pharmacy will be a third world organisation selling generic cheap drugs, that are perfectly legal both in that country and any another
third
world country that it may sell to, but which may not meet the extra ordinarily high intellectual property standards of the US, designed to benefit the rich, and against the poor... The global techno structures become the new international law, in the manner of the famous saying that ' code is law'. while the civil society community around these key governance functions seem least bothered... parminder
It would be interesting to see performance
metrics of such enforcement a few years down the line. Kindest regards,
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair
On 28/08/2014 13:56, Rosa Delgado wrote:
Dear Olivier and Dev,
Perhaps you have already heard about this news but just in case, pls find below an interesting link. Thank you a lot for the support shown through the Objections filed by the ALAC All the best, Rosa Delgado
*Straat-backed bidder beats Donuts and Afilias to .health* DotHealth has won the four-way contention set for the controversial new gTLD .health.
http://domainincite.com/17207-straat-backed-bidder-beats- donuts-and-afilias-to-health
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The point that I am taking home from parminder's post is that due to the inherently global nature of the internet there is the real possibility that some drugs will be legal in some countries but illegal in others. The generics might well be a case, but there may be others. Unless I am missing something, their FAQ does not address this possibility. To be clear, I am not at all questioning dotHealth's good faith and good intentions, and I am extremely happy that they commit to the code of conduct they describe in their FAQ, but I do believe that, nevertheless, there will be cases that can become contradictory, and it will be interesting to see how these cases will be solved. Cheers, R.
-----Messaggio originale----- Da: at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large- bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di McTim Inviato: sabato 30 agosto 2014 03:51 A: Carlton Samuels Cc: At-Large Worldwide Oggetto: Re: [At-Large] News on the .health TLD allocation
As usual, Parminder fabricates a theory without resorting to facts (or FAQs):
http://dothealthgtld.com/faqs.html
There is absolutely zero evidence that .health will deny developing country entities the ability to register as long as they abide by "all applicable laws".
rgds,
McTim
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
Quite the truth. "Trust us' does have it downside. Parminder has identified one of them. So-called local marks are also outliers in this game.
Carlton
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On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:29 PM, parminder <parminder@itforchange.net> wrote:
On Friday 29 August 2014 09:02 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
Dear Rosa,
thank you very much for this follow-up. Yes indeed, we have seen this allocation. I note that the successful applicant will enforce restrictions, or at least police applications, in order to reduce the likelyhood of fake pharmacies using the zone.
And of course, for a US based organisations, a fake, or less than fully fine, pharmacy will be a third world organisation selling generic cheap drugs, that are perfectly legal both in that country and any another
third
world country that it may sell to, but which may not meet the extra ordinarily high intellectual property standards of the US, designed to benefit the rich, and against the poor... The global techno structures become the new international law, in the manner of the famous saying that ' code is law'. while the civil society community around these key governance functions seem least bothered... parminder
It would be interesting to see performance
metrics of such enforcement a few years down the line. Kindest regards,
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair
On 28/08/2014 13:56, Rosa Delgado wrote:
Dear Olivier and Dev,
Perhaps you have already heard about this news but just in case, pls find below an interesting link. Thank you a lot for the support shown through the Objections filed by the ALAC All the best, Rosa Delgado
*Straat-backed bidder beats Donuts and Afilias to .health* DotHealth has won the four-way contention set for the controversial new gTLD .health.
http://domainincite.com/17207-straat-backed-bidder-beats- donuts-and-afilias-to-health
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