All, I would like to "strike while the iron is hot" to address action items that require immediate attention prior to Beijing. Here is a list of items I believe require immediate attention: 1. List of questions to be put out for Public Comment prior to Beijing. (Larry offered to draft and circulate for inputs from the team.) 2. Suggestion: Face-to-face meetings with former Review Team members in Beijing. We discussed interviewing former members of the 3 prior Review Teams as an input to our 3 "known" work streams. If agreed, we need to reach out to those former members to schedule the interaction. Some invitees may attend Beijing and others may not. We can certainly conduct interviews remotely if necessary but getting the invitations out and scheduling time is the first order of business. 3. Suggestion: Face-to-face meetings with current chairs of the Advisory Councils and Supporting Organizations in Beijing. While we have a placeholder for an open meeting with the Community in Beijing that we should take advantage of, we also know that we will want to have structured interactions with each of the stakeholder bodies in ICANN at the July meeting in Durban. It may be useful in Beijing, to meet with the respective chairs to obtain some preliminary views and to discuss how to best prepare for our interaction in Durban. Again, if we wish to meet with the chairs, we need to put out invitations shortly as ICANN attendees' calendars are undoubtedly getting booked as we speak. 4. With respect to the list of issues that we created at the end of Day 2 in Los Angeles (and thank you Avri for taking the mic to guide the team through the task), we need to make a selection of which issues will become discrete work streams and require focused work of ATRT2. While we have a fairly lengthy list, we also have finite resources and time. Given the fact that a complete review of ICANN's implementation of the prior 3 Review Teams' recommendations must be undertaken, we will only be able to take on a few additional issues/work streams if we hope to undertake the necessary data gathering, analysis and drafting to deliver soundly constructed, constructive and useful recommendations. With respect to the R3 paper discussed by Avri and Steve, I think it is important first to identify the issues that will be the subject of work streams and then identify how and in what context we bring papers such as the R3 paper and others into our deliberations. I ask for feedback on the suggestions above and I know that Alice and Charla will be happy to facilitate the outreach for our Beijing meeting. Regards, Brian On 3/18/13 1:22 PM, "Steve Crocker" <steve@shinkuro.com> wrote:
Avri,
Thanks for forwarding the reference to the R3 paper. I think it's an important paper because it represents the views of several thoughtful, senior active members of the community. I am under the impression this does not represent the official position of the ALAC, but I might be misremembering. I thought the ALAC released it as a contribution to the community's dialog, which is perfectly appropriate.
To get the discussion started, I'll also offer that I found myself disagreeing with some of the suggestions in that paper and unclear about what was really meant by other parts. I'll have to reread the paper to summon for the details.
I think it's up to the review team to decide what level of recognition to give to this paper. For example, we might simply reference the paper as something we've looked at and not deal with it explicitly. At the other extreme, we might devote an entire chapter to the paper, effectively giving it equal status with our charter. Or we might choose some path in between these extremes. I recommend we first consider the content of the paper before deciding how much weight to give it and whether and how to respond to it.
Steve
On Mar 18, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:
Hi,
In some of the downtime during the meeting last week, I spoke about the ALAC paper on the Legitimacy challenge to ICANN that ALAC had released as a conversation starter.
The reference for that paper is:
At-Large Future Challenges R3 White Paper Workspace* - https://community.icann.org/x/BAEQAg
It is my understanding that this will be a topic of a session in Beijing - not sure when.
At this point I am sending this for information purposes and not making a specific suggestion that it should be input to this group's discussion, though that may be a reasonable step.
avri
* I note that I am a member of that group, but that I was not a co-author of the paper. _______________________________________________ atrt2 mailing list atrt2@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/atrt2
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