Review Team, Attached is the latest draft of the Report and Recommendations. Please carefully note the following: 1. Provide only SUBSTANTIVE AND CRITICAL edits you may have on the SUBSTANCE of the draft within 24 hours, or by 10:00p.m. UTC tomorrow. 2. Ignore edits concerning numbering, missing citations, spelling etc. Paul and I will continue over the next 24 hours to clean up the document so clean, correctly numbered version will go out for public comment. We will take any substantive and critical edits provided by 10:00p.m. UTC tomorrow and work them into the document. Our plan is to send the document to ICANN staff by 11:00p.m. UTC tomorrow to begin the translation process. 3. The Report will indicate that it is a draft that is subject to change based on Community input and continuing assessment by ATRT2 before the Final Report and Recommendations issue. Thanks to all. Regards, Brian
For clarity, tomorrow's deadline is 2200 UTC (10:00 PM or 1800 EDT or 1500 PDT). We really need to get this to the translators during PDT business hours so we can meet our timeline targets. Best, P On Oct 10, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Brian Cute <bcute@pir.org> wrote:
Review Team,
Attached is the latest draft of the Report and Recommendations. Please carefully note the following:
1. Provide only SUBSTANTIVE AND CRITICAL edits you may have on the SUBSTANCE of the draft within 24 hours, or by 10:00p.m. UTC tomorrow.
2. Ignore edits concerning numbering, missing citations, spelling etc. Paul and I will continue over the next 24 hours to clean up the document so clean, correctly numbered version will go out for public comment. We will take any substantive and critical edits provided by 10:00p.m. UTC tomorrow and work them into the document. Our plan is to send the document to ICANN staff by 11:00p.m. UTC tomorrow to begin the translation process.
3. The Report will indicate that it is a draft that is subject to change based on Community input and continuing assessment by ATRT2 before the Final Report and Recommendations issue.
Thanks to all.
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Hi Brian, Jørgen and I have discussed the latest changes to recommendations regarding finances, and we have the following proposal to recommendation 5. on page 75: 5. In order to ensure that the budget reflects the views of the ICANN community, the ICANN Board shall improve the budget consultation process by i.e. ensuring that sufficient time is given to the community to provide their views on the proposed budget and enough time for the Board to take into account all input before approving the budget. The budget consultation process shall also include time for an open meeting between the ICANN Board and the Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees to discuss the proposed budget. Reasoning regarding the new recommendation 5: 1) This revised recommendation is less prescriptive (even though we seem to be prescriptive in other recommendations!). But it emphasizes the need for changes to the present comment period (and timing) when commenting on the budget and the need for another process for handling the comments. 2) In the current budget consultation process there has not been allocated sufficient time for the community to provide input and has resulted in ICANN having to extend the time for proving comments and a very little time for the Board to take into account the public comments before approving the budget. Therefore it is crucial that enough time is set aside for the Board to analyze all input and taking it into account in order to make informed decisions regarding the budget. 3) Having an open meeting between the Board and the AC/SOs (other stakeholders that might be interested) would help in establishing an on-going dialogue between the Board, and the internet community and would lead to a better mutual understanding of the different views and the decisions taken/to be taken by the Board. Best, Lise Fra: atrt2-bounces@icann.org [mailto:atrt2-bounces@icann.org] På vegne af Brian Cute Sendt: 10. oktober 2013 23:56 Til: atrt2@icann.org (atrt2@icann.org) Emne: [atrt2] LAST CHANCE FOR EDITS! Prioritet: Høj Review Team, Attached is the latest draft of the Report and Recommendations. Please carefully note the following: 1. Provide only SUBSTANTIVE AND CRITICAL edits you may have on the SUBSTANCE of the draft within 24 hours, or by 10:00p.m. UTC tomorrow. 2. Ignore edits concerning numbering, missing citations, spelling etc. Paul and I will continue over the next 24 hours to clean up the document so clean, correctly numbered version will go out for public comment. We will take any substantive and critical edits provided by 10:00p.m. UTC tomorrow and work them into the document. Our plan is to send the document to ICANN staff by 11:00p.m. UTC tomorrow to begin the translation process. 3. The Report will indicate that it is a draft that is subject to change based on Community input and continuing assessment by ATRT2 before the Final Report and Recommendations issue. Thanks to all. Regards, Brian
Dear Colleagues, I think it's a good job. I have only very minor remark: in Sec.9.5 it's worth mentioning that the table reflects *Russian* translations, for avoidance of doubt. Kind regards, Michael 2013/10/11 Brian Cute <bcute@pir.org>
Review Team,
Attached is the latest draft of the Report and Recommendations. Please carefully note the following:
1. Provide only SUBSTANTIVE AND CRITICAL edits you may have on the SUBSTANCE of the draft within 24 hours, or by 10:00p.m. UTC tomorrow.
2. Ignore edits concerning numbering, missing citations, spelling etc. Paul and I will continue over the next 24 hours to clean up the document so clean, correctly numbered version will go out for public comment. We will take any substantive and critical edits provided by 10:00p.m. UTC tomorrow and work them into the document. Our plan is to send the document to ICANN staff by 11:00p.m. UTC tomorrow to begin the translation process.
3. The Report will indicate that it is a draft that is subject to change based on Community input and continuing assessment by ATRT2 before the Final Report and Recommendations issue.
Thanks to all.
Regards, Brian
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Attached are my comments. I would appreciate seeing a copy of the report once the WHOIS templates are inserted into Appendix B, but before it is shipped out. I may not be at my computer, so either send me an SMS at 514-516-3853 or call me at 514-483-3853 to let me know it is sent. Alan At 10/10/2013 05:56 PM, Brian Cute wrote:
Review Team,
Attached is the latest draft of the Report and Recommendations. Please carefully note the following:
1. Provide only SUBSTANTIVE AND CRITICAL edits you may have on the SUBSTANCE of the draft within 24 hours, or by 10:00p.m. UTC tomorrow.
2. Ignore edits concerning numbering, missing citations, spelling etc. Paul and I will continue over the next 24 hours to clean up the document so clean, correctly numbered version will go out for public comment. We will take any substantive and critical edits provided by 10:00p.m. UTC tomorrow and work them into the document. Our plan is to send the document to ICANN staff by 11:00p.m. UTC tomorrow to begin the translation process.
3. The Report will indicate that it is a draft that is subject to change based on Community input and continuing assessment by ATRT2 before the Final Report and Recommendations issue.
Thanks to all.
Regards, Brian
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Dear Brian, as I explained in my earlier message, I was involved in a car accident yesterday, with no injury but which took most of my time to finalise my comments. I do apologise. I sent you an incomplete review of the document an hour ago. All in all, I managed to re-read the whole document again including it's 2nd half & have made a few more observations, all included in the attached file. On the whole, I am pleased with the *substance* of the draft. I have also read the *final* copy which you have sent to Larisa, Charla & Alice. My over-arching concern, which I did express in DC but which does not appear to have been caught, whilst I read the final master, is that the *new recommendations* which have come as a result of ATRT1 recommendation reviews are not clearly identifiable. Also, headers for the ATRT1 recommendations are inconsistent, sometimes called ATRT1 recommendation X, sometimes called "Recommendation X". And then some headers, even in the final copy, say "Assessment of ATRT1 Recommendation 18, 19, 22" and another one "Assessment of ATRT2 Recommendation... etc." That's probably erroneous... and this makes for confusing reading. I hope that Larisa & her Team will be able to fix this. Kind regards, Olivier On 10/10/2013 23:56, Brian Cute wrote:
Review Team,
Attached is the latest draft of the Report and Recommendations. Please carefully note the following:
1. Provide only SUBSTANTIVE AND CRITICAL edits you may have on the SUBSTANCE of the draft within 24 hours, or by 10:00p.m. UTC tomorrow.
2. Ignore edits concerning numbering, missing citations, spelling etc. Paul and I will continue over the next 24 hours to clean up the document so clean, correctly numbered version will go out for public comment. We will take any substantive and critical edits provided by 10:00p.m. UTC tomorrow and work them into the document. Our plan is to send the document to ICANN staff by 11:00p.m. UTC tomorrow to begin the translation process.
3. The Report will indicate that it is a draft that is subject to change based on Community input and continuing assessment by ATRT2 before the Final Report and Recommendations issue.
Thanks to all.
Regards, Brian
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Olivier, Please clarify if this is the communication you were referring to in regards to your edits to the body of the report and the Appendices? It would be helpful if you could indicate specifically what changes you would like staff to include in the most recent version of the report. If you were referencing a more recent communication, then I apologize for the confusion and omission and look forward to getting your clarification as soon as feasible. Thank you, Larisa From: atrt2-bounces@icann.org [mailto:atrt2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 4:13 PM To: Brian Cute Cc: atrt2@icann.org (atrt2@icann.org) Subject: Re: [atrt2] LAST CHANCE FOR EDITS! Dear Brian, as I explained in my earlier message, I was involved in a car accident yesterday, with no injury but which took most of my time to finalise my comments. I do apologise. I sent you an incomplete review of the document an hour ago. All in all, I managed to re-read the whole document again including it's 2nd half & have made a few more observations, all included in the attached file. On the whole, I am pleased with the *substance* of the draft. I have also read the *final* copy which you have sent to Larisa, Charla & Alice. My over-arching concern, which I did express in DC but which does not appear to have been caught, whilst I read the final master, is that the *new recommendations* which have come as a result of ATRT1 recommendation reviews are not clearly identifiable. Also, headers for the ATRT1 recommendations are inconsistent, sometimes called ATRT1 recommendation X, sometimes called "Recommendation X". And then some headers, even in the final copy, say "Assessment of ATRT1 Recommendation 18, 19, 22" and another one "Assessment of ATRT2 Recommendation... etc." That's probably erroneous... and this makes for confusing reading. I hope that Larisa & her Team will be able to fix this. Kind regards, Olivier On 10/10/2013 23:56, Brian Cute wrote: Review Team, Attached is the latest draft of the Report and Recommendations. Please carefully note the following: 1. Provide only SUBSTANTIVE AND CRITICAL edits you may have on the SUBSTANCE of the draft within 24 hours, or by 10:00p.m. UTC tomorrow. 2. Ignore edits concerning numbering, missing citations, spelling etc. Paul and I will continue over the next 24 hours to clean up the document so clean, correctly numbered version will go out for public comment. We will take any substantive and critical edits provided by 10:00p.m. UTC tomorrow and work them into the document. Our plan is to send the document to ICANN staff by 11:00p.m. UTC tomorrow to begin the translation process. 3. The Report will indicate that it is a draft that is subject to change based on Community input and continuing assessment by ATRT2 before the Final Report and Recommendations issue. Thanks to all. Regards, Brian _______________________________________________ atrt2 mailing list atrt2@icann.org<mailto:atrt2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/atrt2 -- Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
Dear Larisa, apologies for not coming back to you earlier - I was travelling again with meetings in a 3rd country & was therefore offline for the past 18 hours. The notes which you quoted in your message are old and I believe have all been incorporated in the latest version of the document that was distributed. The notes I was referring to on the call are attached. Summarising: 1. I am asking about points of view on Raimundo Beca's comments - but received no feedback from anyone on this. 2. I pointed out to a comment from Chuck Gomes et al. which I do not think was addressed. 3. The note suggestion made by public comment contributors re: use of "equitable participation" which might be an unachievable goal and a suggestion to have "equitable opportunity to participate" 4. a question about 10.4 (which was also from comments received during the PC -- the Board over-ruling the GNSO PDP process? 5. My (then) suggestions for strengthening Recommendation 8 - please note that I believe this has been superceded by the friendly amendment from Lise & Fiona Asonga (as discussed on the call) 6. noting the missing of bullets on P.42 "Assessment of Recommendation Effectiveness" 7. Noting that SSR-RT implementation review page C-39 is messed up & have eaten up part of the ALAC response/comment. 8. My concern re: the overall conclusion of SSR-RT // although I do NOT have replacement text for this because ultimately since the SSR-RT section is (a) an appendix and (b) does not contain any recommendations, I doubt anyone will act on it. 9. My overall concern re: the emphasis on Recommendations at the cost of Observations which I aired on the recent call and which Brian promised to work something out for. Thanks, Olivier On 17/12/2013 23:41, Larisa B. Gurnick wrote:
Olivier,
Please clarify if this is the communication you were referring to in regards to your edits to the body of the report and the Appendices? It would be helpful if you could indicate specifically what changes you would like staff to include in the most recent version of the report. If you were referencing a more recent communication, then I apologize for the confusion and omission and look forward to getting your clarification as soon as feasible.
Thank you,
Larisa
*From:*atrt2-bounces@icann.org [mailto:atrt2-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond *Sent:* Friday, October 11, 2013 4:13 PM *To:* Brian Cute *Cc:* atrt2@icann.org (atrt2@icann.org) *Subject:* Re: [atrt2] LAST CHANCE FOR EDITS!
Dear Brian,
as I explained in my earlier message, I was involved in a car accident yesterday, with no injury but which took most of my time to finalise my comments. I do apologise. I sent you an incomplete review of the document an hour ago. All in all, I managed to re-read the whole document again including it's 2nd half & have made a few more observations, all included in the attached file.
On the whole, I am pleased with the *substance* of the draft. I have also read the *final* copy which you have sent to Larisa, Charla & Alice. My over-arching concern, which I did express in DC but which does not appear to have been caught, whilst I read the final master, is that the *new recommendations* which have come as a result of ATRT1 recommendation reviews are not clearly identifiable.
Also, headers for the ATRT1 recommendations are inconsistent, sometimes called ATRT1 recommendation X, sometimes called "Recommendation X". And then some headers, even in the final copy, say "Assessment of ATRT1 Recommendation 18, 19, 22" and another one "Assessment of ATRT2 Recommendation... etc." That's probably erroneous... and this makes for confusing reading.
I hope that Larisa & her Team will be able to fix this.
Kind regards,
Olivier
On 10/10/2013 23:56, Brian Cute wrote:
Review Team,
Attached is the latest draft of the Report and Recommendations. Please carefully note the following:
1. Provide only SUBSTANTIVE AND CRITICAL edits you may have on the SUBSTANCE of the draft within 24 hours, or by 10:00p.m. UTC tomorrow.
2. Ignore edits concerning numbering, missing citations, spelling etc. Paul and I will continue over the next 24 hours to clean up the document so clean, correctly numbered version will go out for public comment. We will take any substantive and critical edits provided by 10:00p.m. UTC tomorrow and work them into the document. Our plan is to send the document to ICANN staff by 11:00p.m. UTC tomorrow to begin the translation process.
3. The Report will indicate that it is a draft that is subject to change based on Community input and continuing assessment by ATRT2 before the Final Report and Recommendations issue.
Thanks to all.
Regards,
Brian
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participants (7)
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Alan Greenberg -
Brian Cute -
Larisa B. Gurnick -
Lise Fuhr -
Michael Yakushev -
Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond -
Paul Diaz