All, I have been following the discussion on this point. Here is what I suggest and I am interested in feedback. ATRT2 adds a statement to the Report to this effect: "ATRT2 believes that these Recommendations are important and, to the extent accepted by the Board, should be treated as a strategic priority. To that end, ICANN should create an implementation plan and publish it to the Community." A few observations when considering this statement. It is appropriate, as ICANN continues to mature, that the organization treat Review Team recommendations that it accepts as strategic priority items. It is also appropriate to expect the organization to develop and implementation plan, publish it, execute and measure (with metrics, KPIs, benchmarks etc.) its implementation performance. Staff and Board have indicated that there are already some projects underway that map to Recommendations. That is a good thing. Mr. Zhang does raise a valid, practical point (supported by David Conrad). Are we asking ICANN to implement all of these Recommendations with the same level of prioritization and at the same time? This could be an impractical request. I would think that, in the normal course, if ICANN develops and implementation plan it will identify the effort and resources necessary to implement the Recommendations and that implementation of the Recommendations will vary to some degree. I think for all these reasons, the statement about may be useful to include in the Report. Regards, Brian
Hi, Statement works for me. avri On 19-Dec-13 11:28, Brian Cute wrote:
All,
I have been following the discussion on this point. Here is what I suggest and I am interested in feedback. ATRT2 adds a statement to the Report to this effect:
"ATRT2 believes that these Recommendations are important and, to the extent accepted by the Board, should be treated as a strategic priority. To that end, ICANN should create an implementation plan and publish it to the Community."
A few observations when considering this statement. It is appropriate, as ICANN continues to mature, that the organization treat Review Team recommendations that it accepts as strategic priority items. It is also appropriate to expect the organization to develop and implementation plan, publish it, execute and measure (with metrics, KPIs, benchmarks etc.) its implementation performance. Staff and Board have indicated that there are already some projects underway that map to Recommendations. That is a good thing. Mr. Zhang does raise a valid, practical point (supported by David Conrad). Are we asking ICANN to implement all of these Recommendations with the same level of prioritization and at the same time? This could be an impractical request. I would think that, in the normal course, if ICANN develops and implementation plan it will identify the effort and resources necessary to implement the Recommendations and that implementation of the Recommendations will vary to some degree.
I think for all these reasons, the statement about may be useful to include in the Report.
Regards, Brian
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The statement in quotes is fine. I believe that we are already asking that the acceptance of recommendations include a projected time-frame for implementation. This will take into account staff availability. It will also factor in that some Recs are implemented by completely different staff from others. The community will have plenty of opportunity to comment about whether the projected implementation meets their needs and expectations. Alan At 19/12/2013 11:28 AM, Brian Cute wrote:
All,
I have been following the discussion on this point. Here is what I suggest and I am interested in feedback. ATRT2 adds a statement to the Report to this effect:
"ATRT2 believes that these Recommendations are important and, to the extent accepted by the Board, should be treated as a strategic priority. To that end, ICANN should create an implementation plan and publish it to the Community."
A few observations when considering this statement. It is appropriate, as ICANN continues to mature, that the organization treat Review Team recommendations that it accepts as strategic priority items. It is also appropriate to expect the organization to develop and implementation plan, publish it, execute and measure (with metrics, KPIs, benchmarks etc.) its implementation performance. Staff and Board have indicated that there are already some projects underway that map to Recommendations. That is a good thing. Mr. Zhang does raise a valid, practical point (supported by David Conrad). Are we asking ICANN to implement all of these Recommendations with the same level of prioritization and at the same time? This could be an impractical request. I would think that, in the normal course, if ICANN develops and implementation plan it will identify the effort and resources necessary to implement the Recommendations and that implementation of the Recommendations will vary to some degree.
I think for all these reasons, the statement about may be useful to include in the Report.
Regards, Brian _______________________________________________ atrt2 mailing list atrt2@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/atrt2
Brian, On Dec 19, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Brian Cute <bcute@pir.org> wrote:
"ATRT2 believes that these Recommendations are important and, to the extent accepted by the Board, should be treated as a strategic priority. To that end, ICANN should create an implementation plan and publish it to the Community."
Should publication also come with an avenue for input from the Community regarding those implementation plans?
I think for all these reasons, the statement about may be useful to include in the Report.
Agree. Regards, -drc
David, I did not intend public comment in that statement. If ATRT2 members have a different view, please indicate. Thank you. Regards, Brian From: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org<mailto:drc@virtualized.org>> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:48:32 -0800 To: Brian Cute <bcute@pir.org<mailto:bcute@pir.org>> Cc: "atrt2@icann.org<mailto:atrt2@icann.org> (atrt2@icann.org<mailto:atrt2@icann.org>)" <atrt2@icann.org<mailto:atrt2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [atrt2] Prioritization Brian, On Dec 19, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Brian Cute <bcute@pir.org<mailto:bcute@pir.org>> wrote: "ATRT2 believes that these Recommendations are important and, to the extent accepted by the Board, should be treated as a strategic priority. To that end, ICANN should create an implementation plan and publish it to the Community." Should publication also come with an avenue for input from the Community regarding those implementation plans? I think for all these reasons, the statement about may be useful to include in the Report. Agree. Regards, -drc
Hi, Public comment is always possible. But no, I was not thinking that it should explicitly have its own comment and review schedule. A formal public comment period without a specific review obligation and response is hardly worth asking for, and I don't suggest we subject this schedule to that. The slings and arrows of blogs and such will be sufficient in this case, I believe. avri On 19-Dec-13 12:07, Brian Cute wrote:
David,
I did not intend public comment in that statement. If ATRT2 members have a different view, please indicate. Thank you.
Regards, Brian
From: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org <mailto:drc@virtualized.org>> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:48:32 -0800 To: Brian Cute <bcute@pir.org <mailto:bcute@pir.org>> Cc: "atrt2@icann.org <mailto:atrt2@icann.org> (atrt2@icann.org <mailto:atrt2@icann.org>)" <atrt2@icann.org <mailto:atrt2@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [atrt2] Prioritization
Brian,
On Dec 19, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Brian Cute <bcute@pir.org <mailto:bcute@pir.org>> wrote:
"ATRT2 believes that these Recommendations are important and, to the extent accepted by the Board, should be treated as a strategic priority. To that end, ICANN should create an implementation plan and publish it to the Community."
Should publication also come with an avenue for input from the Community regarding those implementation plans?
I think for all these reasons, the statement about may be useful to include in the Report.
Agree.
Regards, -drc
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On 12/19/2013 02:28 PM, Brian Cute wrote:
"ATRT2 believes that these Recommendations are important and, to the extent accepted by the Board, should be treated as a strategic priority. To that end, ICANN should create an implementation plan and publish it to the Community."
Language ok for me. demi
A few observations when considering this statement. It is appropriate, as ICANN continues to mature, that the organization treat Review Team recommendations that it accepts as strategic priority items. It is also appropriate to expect the organization to develop and implementation plan, publish it, execute and measure (with metrics, KPIs, benchmarks etc.) its implementation performance. Staff and Board have indicated that there are already some projects underway that map to Recommendations. That is a good thing. Mr. Zhang does raise a valid, practical point (supported by David Conrad). Are we asking ICANN to implement all of these Recommendations with the same level of prioritization and at the same time? This could be an impractical request. I would think that, in the normal course, if ICANN develops and implementation plan it will identify the effort and resources necessary to implement the Recommendations and that implementation of the Recommendations will vary to some degree.
I think for all these reasons, the statement about may be useful to include in the Report.
Regards, Brian
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Brian, Full support from me. best regards Jørgen ________________________________ Fra: atrt2-bounces@icann.org [mailto:atrt2-bounces@icann.org] På vegne af Brian Cute Sendt: 19. december 2013 17:28 Til: atrt2@icann.org (atrt2@icann.org) Emne: [atrt2] Prioritization All, I have been following the discussion on this point. Here is what I suggest and I am interested in feedback. ATRT2 adds a statement to the Report to this effect: "ATRT2 believes that these Recommendations are important and, to the extent accepted by the Board, should be treated as a strategic priority. To that end, ICANN should create an implementation plan and publish it to the Community." A few observations when considering this statement. It is appropriate, as ICANN continues to mature, that the organization treat Review Team recommendations that it accepts as strategic priority items. It is also appropriate to expect the organization to develop and implementation plan, publish it, execute and measure (with metrics, KPIs, benchmarks etc.) its implementation performance. Staff and Board have indicated that there are already some projects underway that map to Recommendations. That is a good thing. Mr. Zhang does raise a valid, practical point (supported by David Conrad). Are we asking ICANN to implement all of these Recommendations with the same level of prioritization and at the same time? This could be an impractical request. I would think that, in the normal course, if ICANN develops and implementation plan it will identify the effort and resources necessary to implement the Recommendations and that implementation of the Recommendations will vary to some degree. I think for all these reasons, the statement about may be useful to include in the Report. Regards, Brian
Dear colleagues, if you remember, I also supported Xinsheng's proposal on prioritization, and that is why I did participate in the poll. However, I consider Brian's proposal very reasonable, and I agree with the suggested wording. Kind regards, Michael 2013/12/19 Brian Cute <bcute@pir.org>
All,
I have been following the discussion on this point. Here is what I suggest and I am interested in feedback. ATRT2 adds a statement to the Report to this effect:
"ATRT2 believes that these Recommendations are important and, to the extent accepted by the Board, should be treated as a strategic priority. To that end, ICANN should create an implementation plan and publish it to the Community."
A few observations when considering this statement. It is appropriate, as ICANN continues to mature, that the organization treat Review Team recommendations that it accepts as strategic priority items. It is also appropriate to expect the organization to develop and implementation plan, publish it, execute and measure (with metrics, KPIs, benchmarks etc.) its implementation performance. Staff and Board have indicated that there are already some projects underway that map to Recommendations. That is a good thing. Mr. Zhang does raise a valid, practical point (supported by David Conrad). Are we asking ICANN to implement all of these Recommendations with the same level of prioritization and at the same time? This could be an impractical request. I would think that, in the normal course, if ICANN develops and implementation plan it will identify the effort and resources necessary to implement the Recommendations and that implementation of the Recommendations will vary to some degree.
I think for all these reasons, the statement about may be useful to include in the Report.
Regards, Brian
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The language is fine for me. My consideration of raising it is for the development of ICANN. I think the discussion around this issue is useful. 发件人: atrt2-bounces@icann.org [mailto:atrt2-bounces@icann.org] 代表 Brian Cute 发送时间: 2013年12月20日 0:28 收件人: atrt2@icann.org (atrt2@icann.org) 主题: [atrt2] Prioritization All, I have been following the discussion on this point. Here is what I suggest and I am interested in feedback. ATRT2 adds a statement to the Report to this effect: "ATRT2 believes that these Recommendations are important and, to the extent accepted by the Board, should be treated as a strategic priority. To that end, ICANN should create an implementation plan and publish it to the Community." A few observations when considering this statement. It is appropriate, as ICANN continues to mature, that the organization treat Review Team recommendations that it accepts as strategic priority items. It is also appropriate to expect the organization to develop and implementation plan, publish it, execute and measure (with metrics, KPIs, benchmarks etc.) its implementation performance. Staff and Board have indicated that there are already some projects underway that map to Recommendations. That is a good thing. Mr. Zhang does raise a valid, practical point (supported by David Conrad). Are we asking ICANN to implement all of these Recommendations with the same level of prioritization and at the same time? This could be an impractical request. I would think that, in the normal course, if ICANN develops and implementation plan it will identify the effort and resources necessary to implement the Recommendations and that implementation of the Recommendations will vary to some degree. I think for all these reasons, the statement about may be useful to include in the Report. Regards, Brian
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Michael Yakushev -
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