Dear colleagues There is little point in being part of an organisation so dominated by US based interests. There is nought to congratulate ourselves about being so clearly dominated by one particular group when there are such broader issues at stake. We have failed substantially to meet our charter obligations and the new executive committee will have a large task on its hands to ensure a fresh and innovative approach to representing business interests across the board. I have asked Gary to remove me from BC membership with immediate effect. Liz
Dear Liz, I write in the hopes that you will reconsider you resignation from the BC. Whilst I understand your point about the need for broader group to tackle the wide range of issues at stake, this 'problem' is best solved by continued and ongoing outreach work and encouraging newcomers like myself to find their feet and eventually stand for elected positions. As a rank and file member, I thank you for the enormous amount of work that you have put in to date and hope that you will continue to help ICANN and the constituency from the inside. With best regards, . Chris Chaplow Managing Director Andalucía.com S.L. Avenida del Carmen 9 Ed. Puertosol, Puerto Deportivo 1ª Planta, Oficina 30 Estepona, 29680 Malaga, Spain Tel: + (34) 952 897 865 Fax: + (34) 952 897 874 E-mail: chris@andalucia.com Web: www.andalucia.com Information about Andalucia, Spain. Please think of the Environment before you print this email -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] En nombre de Liz Williams Enviado el: viernes, 05 de febrero de 2010 16:14 Para: bc - GNSO list Asunto: [bc-gnso] Anzaja: resignation Dear colleagues There is little point in being part of an organisation so dominated by US based interests. There is nought to congratulate ourselves about being so clearly dominated by one particular group when there are such broader issues at stake. We have failed substantially to meet our charter obligations and the new executive committee will have a large task on its hands to ensure a fresh and innovative approach to representing business interests across the board. I have asked Gary to remove me from BC membership with immediate effect. Liz
Chris Very kind of you to be so supportive. However, I said I would resign if what has happened took place. The business constituency and its executive committee will have a hard task of convincing any business why they ought to be involved with a very narrow interest base with diminishing membership profile beyond a very small group of ICANN insiders. I wish the group well. Liz On 5 Feb 2010, at 15:42, Chris Chaplow wrote:
Dear Liz,
I write in the hopes that you will reconsider you resignation from the BC.
Whilst I understand your point about the need for broader group to tackle the wide range of issues at stake, this 'problem' is best solved by continued and ongoing outreach work and encouraging newcomers like myself to find their feet and eventually stand for elected positions.
As a rank and file member, I thank you for the enormous amount of work that you have put in to date and hope that you will continue to help ICANN and the constituency from the inside.
With best regards, .
Chris Chaplow Managing Director Andalucía.com S.L. Avenida del Carmen 9 Ed. Puertosol, Puerto Deportivo 1ª Planta, Oficina 30 Estepona, 29680 Malaga, Spain Tel: + (34) 952 897 865 Fax: + (34) 952 897 874 E-mail: chris@andalucia.com Web: www.andalucia.com Information about Andalucia, Spain.
Please think of the Environment before you print this email
-----Mensaje original----- De: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] En nombre de Liz Williams Enviado el: viernes, 05 de febrero de 2010 16:14 Para: bc - GNSO list Asunto: [bc-gnso] Anzaja: resignation
Dear colleagues
There is little point in being part of an organisation so dominated by US based interests. There is nought to congratulate ourselves about being so clearly dominated by one particular group when there are such broader issues at stake. We have failed substantially to meet our charter obligations and the new executive committee will have a large task on its hands to ensure a fresh and innovative approach to representing business interests across the board.
I have asked Gary to remove me from BC membership with immediate effect.
Liz
Liz, If there is one thing I have learned in 11 years of ICANN battles, is that it is best to sometimes take 24 hours before sending certain emails. Over the better part of those 11 years we have sometimes been on the same side of an issue or the opposite side of an issue, regardless I think there has always been a mutual respect. I understand and appreciate your concerns but resigning does not seem to be part of the solution, but appears to add to the problem a lack of geo graphic diversity within the BC. As a sort of nomad of the GNSO, actively participating in various constituencies, may I recommend maintaining your membership in the BC and look to get involved in other constituencies. By the way, the Registry Constituency just approved the process for observer members to join. Based on your work with CORE this would seem to be a natural fit with some of the new gTLD would are likely to be doing. As a consultant much like yourself, I find the different viewpoints voiced /advocated within different constituencies constructive. As a long time member of the BC, I have seen an ebb and flow in the dynamics and its make-up. Play the long game, stay engaged and things will change they always do. Just my two cents. Best regards, Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Liz Williams Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 10:14 AM To: bc - GNSO list Subject: [bc-gnso] Anzaja: resignation Dear colleagues There is little point in being part of an organisation so dominated by US based interests. There is nought to congratulate ourselves about being so clearly dominated by one particular group when there are such broader issues at stake. We have failed substantially to meet our charter obligations and the new executive committee will have a large task on its hands to ensure a fresh and innovative approach to representing business interests across the board. I have asked Gary to remove me from BC membership with immediate effect. Liz
Thanks very much Michael However, I didn't make the decision lightly. My views were well known within the membership circle and I did what I said I was going to do. The BC is closing down not opening up and it certainly isn't opening up to new voices from different places who care about wider business issues -- my consulting interest is a minor part of my broader business life. ICANN will have to deal with that at an organisational level. Best wishes and, yes, always mutual respect even if there are differing views. Liz On 5 Feb 2010, at 15:58, Michael D. Palage wrote:
Liz,
If there is one thing I have learned in 11 years of ICANN battles, is that it is best to sometimes take 24 hours before sending certain emails. Over the better part of those 11 years we have sometimes been on the same side of an issue or the opposite side of an issue, regardless I think there has always been a mutual respect.
I understand and appreciate your concerns but resigning does not seem to be part of the solution, but appears to add to the problem a lack of geo graphic diversity within the BC. As a sort of nomad of the GNSO, actively participating in various constituencies, may I recommend maintaining your membership in the BC and look to get involved in other constituencies. By the way, the Registry Constituency just approved the process for observer members to join. Based on your work with CORE this would seem to be a natural fit with some of the new gTLD would are likely to be doing. As a consultant much like yourself, I find the different viewpoints voiced /advocated within different constituencies constructive.
As a long time member of the BC, I have seen an ebb and flow in the dynamics and its make-up. Play the long game, stay engaged and things will change they always do.
Just my two cents.
Best regards,
Michael
-----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Liz Williams Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 10:14 AM To: bc - GNSO list Subject: [bc-gnso] Anzaja: resignation
Dear colleagues
There is little point in being part of an organisation so dominated by US based interests. There is nought to congratulate ourselves about being so clearly dominated by one particular group when there are such broader issues at stake. We have failed substantially to meet our charter obligations and the new executive committee will have a large task on its hands to ensure a fresh and innovative approach to representing business interests across the board.
I have asked Gary to remove me from BC membership with immediate effect.
Liz
Liz, I can understand your feelings (being someone who's not yet succeeded in a BC election and prone to thinking that it can be a closed circle with contributions underappreciated). But know that that there are many of us who do value your contribution and hope you will reconsider. We are at an important time in our evolution as a constituency/stakeholder group and you are 100% correct that opening up is what we must do. cheers/Rick Rick Anderson EVP, InterBorder Holdings Ltd. randerson@interborder.ca cell: (403) 830-1798 -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Liz Williams Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:48 AM To: Michael D. Palage Cc: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] Anzaja: resignation Thanks very much Michael However, I didn't make the decision lightly. My views were well known within the membership circle and I did what I said I was going to do. The BC is closing down not opening up and it certainly isn't opening up to new voices from different places who care about wider business issues -- my consulting interest is a minor part of my broader business life. ICANN will have to deal with that at an organisational level. Best wishes and, yes, always mutual respect even if there are differing views. Liz On 5 Feb 2010, at 15:58, Michael D. Palage wrote:
Liz,
If there is one thing I have learned in 11 years of ICANN battles, is that it is best to sometimes take 24 hours before sending certain emails. Over the better part of those 11 years we have sometimes been on the same side of an issue or the opposite side of an issue, regardless I think there has always been a mutual respect.
I understand and appreciate your concerns but resigning does not seem to be part of the solution, but appears to add to the problem a lack of geo graphic diversity within the BC. As a sort of nomad of the GNSO, actively participating in various constituencies, may I recommend maintaining your membership in the BC and look to get involved in other constituencies. By the way, the Registry Constituency just approved the process for observer members to join. Based on your work with CORE this would seem to be a natural fit with some of the new gTLD would are likely to be doing. As a consultant much like yourself, I find the different viewpoints voiced /advocated within different constituencies constructive.
As a long time member of the BC, I have seen an ebb and flow in the dynamics and its make-up. Play the long game, stay engaged and things will change they always do.
Just my two cents.
Best regards,
Michael
-----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Liz Williams Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 10:14 AM To: bc - GNSO list Subject: [bc-gnso] Anzaja: resignation
Dear colleagues
There is little point in being part of an organisation so dominated by US based interests. There is nought to congratulate ourselves about being so clearly dominated by one particular group when there are such broader issues at stake. We have failed substantially to meet our charter obligations and the new executive committee will have a large task on its hands to ensure a fresh and innovative approach to representing business interests across the board.
I have asked Gary to remove me from BC membership with immediate effect.
Liz
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Rick So kind of you to post such a nice message. I'm not concerned with unappreciated contributions as that is the risk one takes. The issues are much broader and much more important. We have had an opportunity to open up our membership and our thinking and that hasn't worked. We haven't met our (new!) charter obligations and we ought to be thinking beyond being proxy to interests which are represented elsewhere. Legitimate, creative and innovative businesses interested in expanding the use of the DNS have no "air" on which to survive in the current construction of the group. That doesn't mean that people don't try hard -- it just means the focus and articulation is wrong. Very best wishes. Liz On 5 Feb 2010, at 17:31, Rick Anderson wrote:
Liz, I can understand your feelings (being someone who's not yet succeeded in a BC election and prone to thinking that it can be a closed circle with contributions underappreciated).
But know that that there are many of us who do value your contribution and hope you will reconsider. We are at an important time in our evolution as a constituency/stakeholder group and you are 100% correct that opening up is what we must do.
cheers/Rick
Rick Anderson EVP, InterBorder Holdings Ltd.
randerson@interborder.ca cell: (403) 830-1798
-----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Liz Williams Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:48 AM To: Michael D. Palage Cc: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] Anzaja: resignation
Thanks very much Michael
However, I didn't make the decision lightly. My views were well known within the membership circle and I did what I said I was going to do. The BC is closing down not opening up and it certainly isn't opening up to new voices from different places who care about wider business issues -- my consulting interest is a minor part of my broader business life. ICANN will have to deal with that at an organisational level.
Best wishes and, yes, always mutual respect even if there are differing views.
Liz On 5 Feb 2010, at 15:58, Michael D. Palage wrote:
Liz,
If there is one thing I have learned in 11 years of ICANN battles, is that it is best to sometimes take 24 hours before sending certain emails. Over the better part of those 11 years we have sometimes been on the same side of an issue or the opposite side of an issue, regardless I think there has always been a mutual respect.
I understand and appreciate your concerns but resigning does not seem to be part of the solution, but appears to add to the problem a lack of geo graphic diversity within the BC. As a sort of nomad of the GNSO, actively participating in various constituencies, may I recommend maintaining your membership in the BC and look to get involved in other constituencies. By the way, the Registry Constituency just approved the process for observer members to join. Based on your work with CORE this would seem to be a natural fit with some of the new gTLD would are likely to be doing. As a consultant much like yourself, I find the different viewpoints voiced /advocated within different constituencies constructive.
As a long time member of the BC, I have seen an ebb and flow in the dynamics and its make-up. Play the long game, stay engaged and things will change they always do.
Just my two cents.
Best regards,
Michael
-----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Liz Williams Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 10:14 AM To: bc - GNSO list Subject: [bc-gnso] Anzaja: resignation
Dear colleagues
There is little point in being part of an organisation so dominated by US based interests. There is nought to congratulate ourselves about being so clearly dominated by one particular group when there are such broader issues at stake. We have failed substantially to meet our charter obligations and the new executive committee will have a large task on its hands to ensure a fresh and innovative approach to representing business interests across the board.
I have asked Gary to remove me from BC membership with immediate effect.
Liz
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