thanks a lot Steve. Should we ask Lawrence if his hub would cover all 3 points? I understand point 1 is covered. Not sure about 2 and 3 which are related. Thanks, Gabi El 4/12/2017 13:14, "Steve DelBianco" <sdelbianco@netchoice.org> escribió: Gabi – being creative, I might imagine that a “remote hub” could be a BC Outreach event – if: 1. BC member(s) were among the leaders and hosts; 2. Businesses were prominent among the hub attendees; and 3. BC members made a direct appeal to join the ICANN BC, collected contact info, and made follow-ups. How’s that sound to members of Outreach Committee? *From: *Gabriela Szlak <gabrielaszlak@gmail.com> *Date: *Monday, December 4, 2017 at 10:58 AM *To: *Jimson Olufuye <jolufuye@kontemporary.net> *Cc: *Steven DelBianco <sdelbianco@netchoice.org>, 'Tola Sogbesan < tola@chacesystems.com>, BC Executive Committee <bc-excomm@icann.org>, BC Outreach <bc-outreach@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: Re: [Bc-outreach] Trying again -- possible support for IGF attendees Thanks everyone. I have already expressed in the past that I have my doubts about the IGF being the right venue for BC Outreach. That being said, I would ask the BC members that are going to be funded by the BC Outreach budget, please offer your feedback about this, so that we can know better for future IGF´s how to proceed regarding requests to participate in the IGF with BC Outreach budget. I assume that of the 20K a part has already been spent (is that correct?). And Steve said we need at least to leave half for the next 6 months. So, considering that, I would rather not spend more that $3000 overall for all 3 candidates. I also understood from Steve´s email that the remote hub would not be elegible. Is that correct? Thanks, Gabi 2017-12-04 12:12 GMT-03:00 Jimson Olufuye <jolufuye@kontemporary.net>: Thanks for weighing in Steve. FYI, what was in the mind of the Finance Committee per 'others' in the Budget breakdown was Eastern Europe noting that Africa, Asia and Latin America were already covered. Cheers, JO --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [Bc-outreach] Trying again -- possible support for IGF attendees From: "Steve DelBianco" <sdelbianco@netchoice.org> Date: 12/4/17 4:31 pm To: "'Tola Sogbesan" <tola@chacesystems.com>, "Gabriela Szlak" < gabrielaszlak@gmail.com> Cc: "BC Executive Committee" <bc-excomm@icann.org>, "BC Outreach" < bc-outreach@icann.org> This recommendation is now in the hands of our ad-hoc outreach committee, but let me (on ExCom) remind you of the budget we approved (attached). We have $20K in Outreach budget, which must cover the 12 months ending Jun-2018. So, we should preserve approximately half of the budget amount for events over the remaining half of our fiscal year. That includes outreach at the next 2 ICANN meetings in San Juan and Panama. The budget line item on page 11 was “Outreach in Latin America, Africa, Asia, and others @ $5,000 plus additional outreach contingency” Note that there was no explicit budget for Europe. Since Europe is included in “all others”, there is $5,000 budgeted, of which some share could be allocated to IGF. But as I noted on the last BC call and several members agreed, this budget is only for Outreach on behalf of the BC: “In my opinion, IGF travel support should be allocated only to those BC members who are presenting at IGF, where they can advocate for businesses to join the BC.” Thanks, Steve *From: *'Tola Sogbesan <tola@chacesystems.com> *Date: *Monday, December 4, 2017 at 9:06 AM *To: *Gabriela Szlak <gabrielaszlak@gmail.com> *Cc: *Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@hotmail.com>, Steven DelBianco < sdelbianco@netchoice.org>, BC Outreach <bc-outreach@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [Bc-outreach] Trying again -- possible support for IGF attendees Hi all, I appreciate Gabi’s approach. Having now being informed that $5,000 is budgeted for Europe in FY2018, I want to believe Marilyn’s proposal may just be apt. This is assuming individual requests matches or surpass allocated amount. Should request be lower than amount proposed by Marilyn, then, requested amount should take precedence. The outstanding $1,000 could as well support Lawrence. With Infrastructure challenges in Nigeria, I know this is amount is low, but I would expect partnerships would have been sought with other local stakeholders. Cheers, TS On 3 Dec 2017, at 18:43, Gabriela Szlak <gabrielaszlak@gmail.com> wrote: Jimson/Andy/Marilyn As far as I understand, the criteria for support has been met by all 3 candidates and now the only question to solve would be how much to allocate for each candidate. So, the two options on the table are: - $2400 (800 each) - proposed by Andy -$4000: (1500 for Mark and Jimson - each- and 1000 for Marilyn): proposed by Marilyn as a counter proposal I believe the only way to have a criteria on how much to allocate for each would be: 1. - the request the candidates make - which can serve as a maximum 2. - BC budget that we have available until the end of FY Can someone clarify point 2 please? Thanks a lot, Gabi El 3/12/2017 12:08, "Marilyn Cade" <marilynscade@hotmail.com> escribió: I make a counter proposal, as I described some benefits to having us take this up, and we can work then toward a booth for 2018, and strengthen the BC presence. I propose an allocation of $1500 each to Mark and Jimson [ Mark will need to advance engagement in not just Gigabit on Day Zero, and I can help to get him involved in other workshops, or act as a rapporteur for the NRI session, if he can agree.Gigabit is not really affiliated in any way with the BC, but we can use this as a sort of "starter" engagement on Day Zero, and then look for other sessions that Mark can attend and support, either as a rapporteur, or as a participant from the floor, with his agreement.[ $1500 for Jimson, as he is speaking in a number of relevant workshops $1,000 for Marilyn - list of events submitted I have described various events I am speaking at and opportunities to promote the BC visibility. ------------------------------ *From:* amack <amack@amglobal.com> *Sent:* Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:46 AM *To:* Marilyn Cade; Jimson Olufuye; sdelbianco@netchoice.org *Cc:* BC Outreach *Subject:* Re: Trying again -- possible support for IGF attendees Team, Was almost totally offline yesterday so just catching up. To your question, Marilyn, the criteria we discussed on the call were speaking at IGF and the ability to represent BC in front of audiences (including new audiences) that might be helpful to us. It seems that all 3 proposals would fit those criteria. Just to be clear to all team members on the process, until Jimson made a request to Excomm (not to OC) there was only one formal request — from Mark, representing Nivaldo’s company. Also, there wasn’t/isn’t any specific budget allocated to IGF Geneva in the Outreach Plan, and there was some active discussion about whether or not IGF was really a good opportunity for us. (The last strong opinion was from Marilyn’s email of 11/10 an excerpt of which is below, in response to the request from Mark): As someone that is very familiar with the IGF, and how it works, there is no real opportunity to recruit business, nor to engage in BC outreach during the IGF. We can consider if we want to plan toward asking for funding for something for IGF2018, depending on who the host is. So, I am a dissenting voice on this, at this point. Marilyn I have been to a number of IGFs and my sense is like Marilyn’s — that they have some value to the BC but are not worth a big investment on our part. Also we are only halfway through our FY and have to make our budget last — with work to do in the two coming Latin America ICANN meetings (and perhaps the run-up to them) as our membership is not as robust as we want in that region. Given these factors my recommendation is that allocate a budget of $2400 and split it evenly among the 3 requesters ($800 each). This seems like the best mix of what members are asking for and the overall value of this particular event to the BC as noted above. Cheers, Andrew ___________________ *Andrew Mack* Principal C: +1 (202) 256-1077 O: +1 (202) 642-6429 Skype: Andrew.Mack <B22A6682-6FCE-4B45-BAE2-94C0EE3E10F7[74].png> AMGlobal Consulting 2001 Massachusetts Avenue, NW <https://maps.google.com/?q=2001+Massachusetts+Avenue,+NW&entry=gmail&source=...> First Floor Washington, DC 20036 USA www.amglobal.com <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amgloba...> | amack@amglobal.com On 12/2/17, 8:50 AM, "Marilyn Cade" <marilynscade@hotmail.com> wrote: Thanks for the opportunity to request funding. What is the criteria? I haven't seen the email with the criteria, so I will just take a stab at justification for asking for $1,000 funding to attend. Request from Marilyn Cade Engagement at IGF2017 -- -participant in planning the agendas of the two ICANN sessions and participant in both -co organizer of Day Zero Event focused on Social and economic opportunities for women, where the BC fact sheet will be distributed, and engagement of the BC described as relevant to engagement of women /in business from the CASA region -keynote speaker at a formal event with Afghanistan, Pakisan, Tunisian delegations [85% governmental attendees]- engagement in ICANN is one of the key points in the briefing about IG and ICANN's role is key to this presentation/BC Fact Sheet distribution -speaker at ICANNWiki booth [proposed to include other BC members attending] -key contributor at the NRI shared booth, where we can put BC Fact Sheets -offer to provide a brief review of the IGF Village booths, along with other funded BC travelers, to determine whether BC should host a booth at IGF2018 -speaker at at least one of the NRI collaborative sessions about models for multi stakeholder engagement -- using BC and ICANN as example: Fake News/Misinformation/Disinformation. Requested Funding: $1,000. Again, I apologize, but did not see any criteria document/or the deadline, so am doing the best I can on responding with a request for funding. Marilyn Cade - ------------------------------ *From:* Bc-private <bc-private-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of amack < amack@amglobal.com> *Sent:* Friday, December 1, 2017 3:19 PM *To:* bc-private icann.org *Subject:* [Bc-private] Trying again -- possible support for IGF attendees All, Following up on yesterday's call as it appears my earlier email went to an earlier BC Private list that has been deactivated (sorry about that). As of the time of our call yesterday, two BC representatives (Jimson Olufuye and Mark Datysgeld) had requested support for their participation at the upcoming IGF in Geneva. Both are speaking and are in positions to promote the BC as part of their participation, criteria suggested by members on yesterday's call as recommended conditions for support. Recognizing that IGF is coming up quickly, *are there any other BC members who will be attending IGF that are in need of support in order to attend and meet the criteria*? (If so, what role will you be playing?) In the interest of time, please send back any new requests by *COB tomorrow Eastern time US*. The Outreach Committee will try to review the requests and budget and pass along recommendations to Excomm by Monday COB. Thanks, Andrew ___________________ *Andrew Mack* Principal C: +1 (202) 256-1077 O: +1 (202) 642-6429 Skype: Andrew.Mack *Error! 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