Re: [Capacity-Building-WG] Teleconference
The Survey pretty much needs to be finalised and wrapped up. Following Durban, people have had more than enough time to make changes if any. I would suggest that we finalise the Survey promptly: Satish, Oksana- could you please check to see whether the version posted in the wiki was the one we went through in Durban, it somehow looks different. I like Tijani's additions as well. Just so we are not working on an old draft when it has already been revised, please double and triple check. When you are all satisfied, they can then be hosted on Survey monkey and the link sent to all. We should not collect information we already have, that was what was decided already and agreed to by all, such as contact details of ALSes we should target both ALSes and members of ALSes as respondents of our Survey. Let Staff work on ALS contact details and updating their records etc. I have this feeling that the draft on the wiki is a very old version of the survey and the revised one is not uploaded yet.... Sent from my iPad On Sep 3, 2013, at 2:02 AM, "Tijani BENJEMAA" <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:
FYI
De : Tijani BEN JEMAA [mailto:tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn] Envoyé : mercredi 28 août 2013 15:26 À : 'At-Large Capacity Building WG' Cc : 'ICANN At-Large Staff' Objet : Teleconference
Dear all,
Since 13 August, I have made some proposals for modifications on the draft survey (see the wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Capacity+Building+WG+Su...). Please have a look and give your opinion.
Also, we need to have a conference call. We have a lot of urgent and less urgent issues to address.
One of the urgent issue is the preparation of our ALSes for the At-Large Summit; we need to coordinate our efforts with the ATLAS II WG and with the regional secretariats.
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Hi Sala, Tijani If I remember right, there was a discussion on the potential overlap between the ATLAS 2 survey and our survey. There was a suggestion that since we were largely interested in the capacity aspect (present capacity as well as gaps), we needn't collect other information (which we can get from ATLAS2), but I don't think we took a final call on this. If we can decide on this aspect, we can quickly wrap it up and go ahead. Perhaps Dev can add to this discussion since he was there in both the meetings at Durban. BTW, the page history indicates that it has not been edited since 18 July, so this looks like the current version satish On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
The Survey pretty much needs to be finalised and wrapped up. Following Durban, people have had more than enough time to make changes if any. I would suggest that we finalise the Survey promptly: Satish, Oksana- could you please check to see whether the version posted in the wiki was the one we went through in Durban, it somehow looks different.
I like Tijani's additions as well. Just so we are not working on an old draft when it has already been revised, please double and triple check. When you are all satisfied, they can then be hosted on Survey monkey and the link sent to all.
We should not collect information we already have, that was what was decided already and agreed to by all, such as contact details of ALSes we should target both ALSes and members of ALSes as respondents of our Survey. Let Staff work on ALS contact details and updating their records etc.
I have this feeling that the draft on the wiki is a very old version of the survey and the revised one is not uploaded yet....
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 3, 2013, at 2:02 AM, "Tijani BENJEMAA" <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:
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Dear all,****
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Since 13 August, I have made some proposals for modifications on the draft survey (see the wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Capacity+Building+WG+Su...). Please have a look and give your opinion.****
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Also, we need to have a conference call. We have a lot of urgent and less urgent issues to address.****
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One of the urgent issue is the preparation of our ALSes for the At-Large Summit; we need to coordinate our efforts with the ATLAS II WG and with the regional secretariats. ****
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*Tijani BEN JEMAA*
Executive Director****
Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*)****
Phone: + 216 41 649 605****
Mobile: + 216 98 330 114****
Fax: + 216 70 853 376****
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I think it will be good to use the wiki to wrap up the survey. Sent from my iPad On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Satish Babu <director@icfoss.in> wrote:
Hi Sala, Tijani If I remember right, there was a discussion on the potential overlap between the ATLAS 2 survey and our survey. There was a suggestion that since we were largely interested in the capacity aspect (present capacity as well as gaps), we needn't collect other information (which we can get from ATLAS2), but I don't think we took a final call on this. If we can decide on this aspect, we can quickly wrap it up and go ahead.
Perhaps Dev can add to this discussion since he was there in both the meetings at Durban.
BTW, the page history indicates that it has not been edited since 18 July, so this looks like the current version
satish
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
The Survey pretty much needs to be finalised and wrapped up. Following Durban, people have had more than enough time to make changes if any. I would suggest that we finalise the Survey promptly: Satish, Oksana- could you please check to see whether the version posted in the wiki was the one we went through in Durban, it somehow looks different.
I like Tijani's additions as well. Just so we are not working on an old draft when it has already been revised, please double and triple check. When you are all satisfied, they can then be hosted on Survey monkey and the link sent to all.
We should not collect information we already have, that was what was decided already and agreed to by all, such as contact details of ALSes we should target both ALSes and members of ALSes as respondents of our Survey. Let Staff work on ALS contact details and updating their records etc.
I have this feeling that the draft on the wiki is a very old version of the survey and the revised one is not uploaded yet....
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 3, 2013, at 2:02 AM, "Tijani BENJEMAA" <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:
FYI
De : Tijani BEN JEMAA [mailto:tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn] Envoyé : mercredi 28 août 2013 15:26 À : 'At-Large Capacity Building WG' Cc : 'ICANN At-Large Staff' Objet : Teleconference
Dear all,
Since 13 August, I have made some proposals for modifications on the draft survey (see the wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Capacity+Building+WG+Su...). Please have a look and give your opinion.
Also, we need to have a conference call. We have a lot of urgent and less urgent issues to address.
One of the urgent issue is the preparation of our ALSes for the At-Large Summit; we need to coordinate our efforts with the ATLAS II WG and with the regional secretariats.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tijani BEN JEMAA
Executive Director
Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)
Phone: + 216 41 649 605
Mobile: + 216 98 330 114
Fax: + 216 70 853 376
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Thank you Satish, One of the issue we should discuss in the upcoming call will be how to make use of the survey in the appropriate way (without redundancy). Sala, if you have things that are not included in the wiki version of the survey, and that you think should be, please add them on the wiki or by e-mail. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: + 216 41 649 605 Mobile: + 216 98 330 114 Fax: + 216 70 853 376 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- De : sb.inapp@gmail.com [mailto:sb.inapp@gmail.com] De la part de Satish Babu Envoyé : mercredi 4 septembre 2013 09:03 À : Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro Cc : tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn; At-Large Capacity Building WG Objet : Re: [Capacity-Building-WG] Teleconference Hi Sala, Tijani If I remember right, there was a discussion on the potential overlap between the ATLAS 2 survey and our survey. There was a suggestion that since we were largely interested in the capacity aspect (present capacity as well as gaps), we needn't collect other information (which we can get from ATLAS2), but I don't think we took a final call on this. If we can decide on this aspect, we can quickly wrap it up and go ahead. Perhaps Dev can add to this discussion since he was there in both the meetings at Durban. BTW, the page history indicates that it has not been edited since 18 July, so this looks like the current version satish On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote: The Survey pretty much needs to be finalised and wrapped up. Following Durban, people have had more than enough time to make changes if any. I would suggest that we finalise the Survey promptly: Satish, Oksana- could you please check to see whether the version posted in the wiki was the one we went through in Durban, it somehow looks different. I like Tijani's additions as well. Just so we are not working on an old draft when it has already been revised, please double and triple check. When you are all satisfied, they can then be hosted on Survey monkey and the link sent to all. We should not collect information we already have, that was what was decided already and agreed to by all, such as contact details of ALSes we should target both ALSes and members of ALSes as respondents of our Survey. Let Staff work on ALS contact details and updating their records etc. I have this feeling that the draft on the wiki is a very old version of the survey and the revised one is not uploaded yet.... Sent from my iPad On Sep 3, 2013, at 2:02 AM, "Tijani BENJEMAA" <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote: FYI De : Tijani BEN JEMAA [mailto:tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn] Envoyé : mercredi 28 août 2013 15:26 À : 'At-Large Capacity Building WG' Cc : 'ICANN At-Large Staff' Objet : Teleconference Dear all, Since 13 August, I have made some proposals for modifications on the draft survey (see the wiki: <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Capacity+Building+WG+S urvey+Group+Workspace> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Capacity+Building+WG+Su rvey+Group+Workspace). Please have a look and give your opinion. Also, we need to have a conference call. We have a lot of urgent and less urgent issues to address. One of the urgent issue is the preparation of our ALSes for the At-Large Summit; we need to coordinate our efforts with the ATLAS II WG and with the regional secretariats. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: + 216 41 649 605 Mobile: + 216 98 330 114 Fax: + 216 70 853 376 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- _______________________________________________ capacity-building-wg mailing list capacity-building-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/capacity-building-wg _______________________________________________ capacity-building-wg mailing list capacity-building-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/capacity-building-wg
Hi, While there was a suggestion to co-ordinate the surveys so that ALSes wouldn't be confused being asked multiple surveys and thus multiple links to visit, etc, there wasn't much enthusiasm for such coordination. Given that the ATLAS II survey has/was been updated offwiki and will likely be finalised very soon, I suggest that the focus should be to review (and approve) our capacity survey as-is without sharing at this point. Dev Anand On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 4:03 AM, Satish Babu <director@icfoss.in> wrote:
Hi Sala, Tijani If I remember right, there was a discussion on the potential overlap between the ATLAS 2 survey and our survey. There was a suggestion that since we were largely interested in the capacity aspect (present capacity as well as gaps), we needn't collect other information (which we can get from ATLAS2), but I don't think we took a final call on this. If we can decide on this aspect, we can quickly wrap it up and go ahead.
Perhaps Dev can add to this discussion since he was there in both the meetings at Durban.
BTW, the page history indicates that it has not been edited since 18 July, so this looks like the current version
satish
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
The Survey pretty much needs to be finalised and wrapped up. Following Durban, people have had more than enough time to make changes if any. I would suggest that we finalise the Survey promptly: Satish, Oksana- could you please check to see whether the version posted in the wiki was the one we went through in Durban, it somehow looks different.
I like Tijani's additions as well. Just so we are not working on an old draft when it has already been revised, please double and triple check. When you are all satisfied, they can then be hosted on Survey monkey and the link sent to all.
We should not collect information we already have, that was what was decided already and agreed to by all, such as contact details of ALSes we should target both ALSes and members of ALSes as respondents of our Survey. Let Staff work on ALS contact details and updating their records etc.
I have this feeling that the draft on the wiki is a very old version of the survey and the revised one is not uploaded yet....
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 3, 2013, at 2:02 AM, "Tijani BENJEMAA" <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:
FYI
De : Tijani BEN JEMAA [mailto:tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn] Envoyé : mercredi 28 août 2013 15:26 À : 'At-Large Capacity Building WG' Cc : 'ICANN At-Large Staff' Objet : Teleconference
Dear all,
Since 13 August, I have made some proposals for modifications on the draft survey (see the wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Capacity+Building+WG+Su...). Please have a look and give your opinion.
Also, we need to have a conference call. We have a lot of urgent and less urgent issues to address.
One of the urgent issue is the preparation of our ALSes for the At-Large Summit; we need to coordinate our efforts with the ATLAS II WG and with the regional secretariats.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tijani BEN JEMAA
Executive Director
Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)
Phone: + 216 41 649 605
Mobile: + 216 98 330 114
Fax: + 216 70 853 376
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Hi Dev, I absolutely agree with you that the 2 surveys must be merged, especially because most of the information requested are the same. One of the Thursday call agenda items is the cooperation with the ATLAS II WG and the regional secretariats. I dont think its a choice to merge the surveys, I believe its necessary. We are in the ATLAS II WG too and we will push toward it. See you Thursday. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: + 216 41 649 605 Mobile: + 216 98 330 114 Fax: + 216 70 853 376 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- -----Message d'origine----- De : capacity-building-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:capacity-building-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Dev Anand Teelucksingh Envoyé : lundi 9 septembre 2013 15:40 À : Satish Babu Cc : At-Large Capacity Building WG Objet : Re: [Capacity-Building-WG] Teleconference Hi, While there was a suggestion to co-ordinate the surveys so that ALSes wouldn't be confused being asked multiple surveys and thus multiple links to visit, etc, there wasn't much enthusiasm for such coordination. Given that the ATLAS II survey has/was been updated offwiki and will likely be finalised very soon, I suggest that the focus should be to review (and approve) our capacity survey as-is without sharing at this point. Dev Anand On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 4:03 AM, Satish Babu <director@icfoss.in> wrote:
Hi Sala, Tijani
If I remember right, there was a discussion on the potential overlap between
the ATLAS 2 survey and our survey. There was a suggestion that since we were
largely interested in the capacity aspect (present capacity as well as
gaps), we needn't collect other information (which we can get from ATLAS2),
but I don't think we took a final call on this. If we can decide on this
aspect, we can quickly wrap it up and go ahead.
Perhaps Dev can add to this discussion since he was there in both the
meetings at Durban.
BTW, the page history indicates that it has not been edited since 18 July,
so this looks like the current version
satish
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro
<salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
The Survey pretty much needs to be finalised and wrapped up. Following
Durban, people have had more than enough time to make changes if any. I
would suggest that we finalise the Survey promptly: Satish, Oksana- could
you please check to see whether the version posted in the wiki was the one
we went through in Durban, it somehow looks different.
I like Tijani's additions as well. Just so we are not working on an old
draft when it has already been revised, please double and triple check. When
you are all satisfied, they can then be hosted on Survey monkey and the link
sent to all.
We should not collect information we already have, that was what was
decided already and agreed to by all, such as contact details of ALSes we
should target both ALSes and members of ALSes as respondents of our Survey.
Let Staff work on ALS contact details and updating their records etc.
I have this feeling that the draft on the wiki is a very old version of
the survey and the revised one is not uploaded yet....
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 3, 2013, at 2:02 AM, "Tijani BENJEMAA" <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>
wrote:
FYI
De : Tijani BEN JEMAA [mailto:tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn]
Envoyé : mercredi 28 août 2013 15:26
À : 'At-Large Capacity Building WG'
Cc : 'ICANN At-Large Staff'
Objet : Teleconference
Dear all,
Since 13 August, I have made some proposals for modifications on the draft
survey (see the wiki:
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Capacity+Building+WG+Su rvey+Group+Workspace).
Please have a look and give your opinion.
Also, we need to have a conference call. We have a lot of urgent and less
urgent issues to address.
One of the urgent issue is the preparation of our ALSes for the At-Large
Summit; we need to coordinate our efforts with the ATLAS II WG and with the
regional secretariats.
----
Tijani BEN JEMAA
Executive Director
Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)
Phone: + 216 41 649 605
Mobile: + 216 98 330 114
Fax: + 216 70 853 376
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Dev Anand Teelucksingh -
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro -
Satish Babu -
Tijani BENJEMAA