Re: [Capacity-Building-WG] Capacity Building WG session with Nora Abusitta
Thank you Heidi The CB team will be well represented at this initial meeting and I am sure the WG will take advantage of being able to meet Nora in Durban. Maureen Maureen Hilyard, Cook Islands - Samsung Mobile Heidi Ullrich <Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org> wrote:
Dear All,
Just to let you know that two members of the Capacity Building WG, Dev and Tijani, are attending this informal call. The idea was that they would be able to report back to the group.
Also, currently Nora and Chris are scheduled to speak during the ALAC and Regional Leaders Working Session as well to the Academy WG in Durban. However, they are not currently scheduled to speak to the Capacity Building WG in Durban. Would the WG like to invite them?
Kind regards, Heidi
-----Original Message----- From: capacity-building-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:capacity-building-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:17 PM To: Satish Babu Cc: Gisella Gruber; At-Large Capacity Building WG Subject: Re: [Capacity-Building-WG] Capacity Building WG session with Nora Abusitta
Those who are eligible to attend from the online group are:
Chubasco Natalia Chaitanya Maureen Ali Dev
Only one of these can attend, since Chaitanya has bowed out, that leaves 5. I would suggest discussing it amongst yourselves and confirming the name ASAP to Gisella.
Kind Regards, Sala
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 1, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Satish Babu <director@icfoss.in> wrote:
I'd also like to leave the opportunity to someone else.
satish
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Chaitanya Dhareshwar <chaitanyabd@gmail.com> wrote:
Given the circumstances, I will abstain from the meeting.
-C
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Maureen,
This is not an attempt to be unfair and are instructions from staff. If it were open to all those in our Working Group, other constituencies would have cried foul at not being involved. This is merely an informal call with Nora.
Traditionally, the invitation was sent to me but I thought that it would be good to have someone from the Online Team. Attending this call is not a "right" but a privilege. Nora will be presenting numerous times to the At Large Team as well as other constituencies, so we will all get to meet and talk to her.
The decision to keep this call "small" is Staff's decision and nothing to do with the steering committee's decision. Whomever you select from amongst you to attend this call, should be sure that they will attend this informal call and report back to the Group both on the wiki and the mailing list.
The group can trust that anything that Nora is planning will of course take into consideration that which the constituencies think should be considered which is why Inwould encourage the Online Group and other grouos at this stage to get to work on your wiki space etc.
Kind Regards, Sala
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 1, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" <hilyard@oyster.net.ck> wrote:
Hi Gisella
I believe that only one representative from the Capacity Building Online Education group has been invited to attend the meeting with Nora Abusitta.
Personally I think this is unfair. We are all interested in attending, and have indicated our interest. I will not be attending the Durban meeting so I won’t have another chance to hear her personally and to ask her any questions directly before Durban – and I’d like to hear what Nora’s role is and what she is planning.
At the same time, I don’t think that it should just be one person attending. We all opted to be a part of this group and should hear the same message. If any of the group are going to Durban, then they can take any queries from the rest of the team along with them, and then feed back to us.. It would be good to be able to work WITH Nora on this.. because we are at a bit of a stand-still at the moment.
I am expressing my own personal view on what I feel is an attempt to block participation. It is not normal ICANN practice. I am sure that others will also have a view on this. I will add this note to the wiki.
M
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Hi Sala Dev and Tijani, I take it that reps from the other groups are not required? I would like to stress the need for accessibility for people with disabilities and draw attention to my earlier post on the issue. If we are starting off with a clean slate there is no excuse not to use the system with best accessibility features. Regards Will On 02/07/2013, at 1:38 AM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
Thank you Heidi The CB team will be well represented at this initial meeting and I am sure the WG will take advantage of being able to meet Nora in Durban. Maureen
Maureen Hilyard, Cook Islands - Samsung Mobile
Heidi Ullrich <Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org> wrote:
Dear All,
Just to let you know that two members of the Capacity Building WG, Dev and Tijani, are attending this informal call. The idea was that they would be able to report back to the group.
Also, currently Nora and Chris are scheduled to speak during the ALAC and Regional Leaders Working Session as well to the Academy WG in Durban. However, they are not currently scheduled to speak to the Capacity Building WG in Durban. Would the WG like to invite them?
Kind regards, Heidi
-----Original Message----- From: capacity-building-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:capacity-building-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:17 PM To: Satish Babu Cc: Gisella Gruber; At-Large Capacity Building WG Subject: Re: [Capacity-Building-WG] Capacity Building WG session with Nora Abusitta
Those who are eligible to attend from the online group are:
Chubasco Natalia Chaitanya Maureen Ali Dev
Only one of these can attend, since Chaitanya has bowed out, that leaves 5. I would suggest discussing it amongst yourselves and confirming the name ASAP to Gisella.
Kind Regards, Sala
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 1, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Satish Babu <director@icfoss.in> wrote:
I'd also like to leave the opportunity to someone else.
satish
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Chaitanya Dhareshwar <chaitanyabd@gmail.com> wrote:
Given the circumstances, I will abstain from the meeting.
-C
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Maureen,
This is not an attempt to be unfair and are instructions from staff. If it were open to all those in our Working Group, other constituencies would have cried foul at not being involved. This is merely an informal call with Nora.
Traditionally, the invitation was sent to me but I thought that it would be good to have someone from the Online Team. Attending this call is not a "right" but a privilege. Nora will be presenting numerous times to the At Large Team as well as other constituencies, so we will all get to meet and talk to her.
The decision to keep this call "small" is Staff's decision and nothing to do with the steering committee's decision. Whomever you select from amongst you to attend this call, should be sure that they will attend this informal call and report back to the Group both on the wiki and the mailing list.
The group can trust that anything that Nora is planning will of course take into consideration that which the constituencies think should be considered which is why Inwould encourage the Online Group and other grouos at this stage to get to work on your wiki space etc.
Kind Regards, Sala
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 1, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" <hilyard@oyster.net.ck> wrote:
Hi Gisella
I believe that only one representative from the Capacity Building Online Education group has been invited to attend the meeting with Nora Abusitta.
Personally I think this is unfair. We are all interested in attending, and have indicated our interest. I will not be attending the Durban meeting so I won’t have another chance to hear her personally and to ask her any questions directly before Durban – and I’d like to hear what Nora’s role is and what she is planning.
At the same time, I don’t think that it should just be one person attending. We all opted to be a part of this group and should hear the same message. If any of the group are going to Durban, then they can take any queries from the rest of the team along with them, and then feed back to us.. It would be good to be able to work WITH Nora on this.. because we are at a bit of a stand-still at the moment.
I am expressing my own personal view on what I feel is an attempt to block participation. It is not normal ICANN practice. I am sure that others will also have a view on this. I will add this note to the wiki.
M
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Dear Will, There was some misunderstanding. As you can imagine the Capacity Building Working Group, has the mandate to develop recommendations which will be put to the ALAC for their consideration. The Wiki spaces that were provided to the various groups within the Capacity Building Working Group are designed precisely to do that. You need not wait for a telephone conference and I would recommend that you put your thoughts on the Wiki in both the Online and Content Column. Whilst it is good to initiate discussions on the mailing list, it is far better to utilise the wiki for substantive comments. Trust this clarifies things. Don't wait for Nora - just start populating the wiki and encourage others to do the same. Hope this helps. Sala On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:30 AM, William Tibben <wjt@uow.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Sala Dev and Tijani,
I take it that reps from the other groups are not required? I would like to stress the need for accessibility for people with disabilities and draw attention to my earlier post on the issue. If we are starting off with a clean slate there is no excuse not to use the system with best accessibility features.
Regards
Will On 02/07/2013, at 1:38 AM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
Thank you Heidi The CB team will be well represented at this initial meeting and I am sure the WG will take advantage of being able to meet Nora in Durban. Maureen
Maureen Hilyard, Cook Islands - Samsung Mobile
Heidi Ullrich <Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org> wrote:
Dear All,
Just to let you know that two members of the Capacity Building WG, Dev and Tijani, are attending this informal call. The idea was that they would be able to report back to the group.
Also, currently Nora and Chris are scheduled to speak during the ALAC and Regional Leaders Working Session as well to the Academy WG in Durban. However, they are not currently scheduled to speak to the Capacity Building WG in Durban. Would the WG like to invite them?
Kind regards, Heidi
-----Original Message----- From: capacity-building-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: capacity-building-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:17 PM To: Satish Babu Cc: Gisella Gruber; At-Large Capacity Building WG Subject: Re: [Capacity-Building-WG] Capacity Building WG session with Nora Abusitta
Those who are eligible to attend from the online group are:
Chubasco Natalia Chaitanya Maureen Ali Dev
Only one of these can attend, since Chaitanya has bowed out, that leaves 5. I would suggest discussing it amongst yourselves and confirming the name ASAP to Gisella.
Kind Regards, Sala
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 1, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Satish Babu <director@icfoss.in> wrote:
I'd also like to leave the opportunity to someone else.
satish
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Chaitanya Dhareshwar <chaitanyabd@gmail.com> wrote:
Given the circumstances, I will abstain from the meeting.
-C
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Maureen,
This is not an attempt to be unfair and are instructions from staff. If it were open to all those in our Working Group, other constituencies would have cried foul at not being involved. This is merely an informal call with Nora.
Traditionally, the invitation was sent to me but I thought that it would be good to have someone from the Online Team. Attending this call is not a "right" but a privilege. Nora will be presenting numerous times to the At Large Team as well as other constituencies, so we will all get to meet and talk to her.
The decision to keep this call "small" is Staff's decision and nothing to do with the steering committee's decision. Whomever you select from amongst you to attend this call, should be sure that they will attend this informal call and report back to the Group
both on the wiki and the mailing list.
The group can trust that anything that Nora is planning will of course take into consideration that which the constituencies think should be considered which is why Inwould encourage the Online Group and other grouos at this stage to get to work on your wiki space etc.
Kind Regards, Sala
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 1, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" <hilyard@oyster.net.ck> wrote:
Hi Gisella
I believe that only one representative from the Capacity Building Online Education group has been invited to attend the meeting with
Nora Abusitta.
Personally I think this is unfair. We are all interested in attending, and have indicated our interest. I will not be attending the Durban meeting so I won’t have another chance to hear her personally and to ask her any questions directly before Durban – and I’d like to hear what Nora’s role is and what she is planning.
At the same time, I don’t think that it should just be one person attending. We all opted to be a part of this group and should hear the same message. If any of the group are going to Durban, then they can take any queries from the rest of the team along with them, and then feed back to us.. It would be good to be able to work WITH Nora on this.. because we are at a bit of a stand-still at the moment.
I am expressing my own personal view on what I feel is an attempt to block participation. It is not normal ICANN practice. I am sure that others will also have a view on this. I will add this note to the
wiki.
M
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Thanks Sala, I understand the nature of the meeting and I am not offended :). Its best to put the accessibility issue up front rather than trying to re-engineer after the fact - hence my unrequested intervention! I'm having some problems getting access to the wiki which I will follow up. Regards Will On 02/07/2013, at 9:35 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: Dear Will, There was some misunderstanding. As you can imagine the Capacity Building Working Group, has the mandate to develop recommendations which will be put to the ALAC for their consideration. The Wiki spaces that were provided to the various groups within the Capacity Building Working Group are designed precisely to do that. You need not wait for a telephone conference and I would recommend that you put your thoughts on the Wiki in both the Online and Content Column. Whilst it is good to initiate discussions on the mailing list, it is far better to utilise the wiki for substantive comments. Trust this clarifies things. Don't wait for Nora - just start populating the wiki and encourage others to do the same. Hope this helps. Sala On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:30 AM, William Tibben <wjt@uow.edu.au<mailto:wjt@uow.edu.au>> wrote: Hi Sala Dev and Tijani, I take it that reps from the other groups are not required? I would like to stress the need for accessibility for people with disabilities and draw attention to my earlier post on the issue. If we are starting off with a clean slate there is no excuse not to use the system with best accessibility features. Regards Will On 02/07/2013, at 1:38 AM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
Thank you Heidi The CB team will be well represented at this initial meeting and I am sure the WG will take advantage of being able to meet Nora in Durban. Maureen
Maureen Hilyard, Cook Islands - Samsung Mobile
Heidi Ullrich <Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org<mailto:Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org>> wrote:
Dear All,
Just to let you know that two members of the Capacity Building WG, Dev and Tijani, are attending this informal call. The idea was that they would be able to report back to the group.
Also, currently Nora and Chris are scheduled to speak during the ALAC and Regional Leaders Working Session as well to the Academy WG in Durban. However, they are not currently scheduled to speak to the Capacity Building WG in Durban. Would the WG like to invite them?
Kind regards, Heidi
-----Original Message----- From: capacity-building-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:capacity-building-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> [mailto:capacity-building-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:capacity-building-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>] On Behalf Of Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:17 PM To: Satish Babu Cc: Gisella Gruber; At-Large Capacity Building WG Subject: Re: [Capacity-Building-WG] Capacity Building WG session with Nora Abusitta
Those who are eligible to attend from the online group are:
Chubasco Natalia Chaitanya Maureen Ali Dev
Only one of these can attend, since Chaitanya has bowed out, that leaves 5. I would suggest discussing it amongst yourselves and confirming the name ASAP to Gisella.
Kind Regards, Sala
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 1, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Satish Babu <director@icfoss.in<mailto:director@icfoss.in>> wrote:
I'd also like to leave the opportunity to someone else.
satish
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Chaitanya Dhareshwar <chaitanyabd@gmail.com<mailto:chaitanyabd@gmail.com>> wrote:
Given the circumstances, I will abstain from the meeting.
-C
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com<mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Maureen,
This is not an attempt to be unfair and are instructions from staff. If it were open to all those in our Working Group, other constituencies would have cried foul at not being involved. This is merely an informal call with Nora.
Traditionally, the invitation was sent to me but I thought that it would be good to have someone from the Online Team. Attending this call is not a "right" but a privilege. Nora will be presenting numerous times to the At Large Team as well as other constituencies, so we will all get to meet and talk to her.
The decision to keep this call "small" is Staff's decision and nothing to do with the steering committee's decision. Whomever you select from amongst you to attend this call, should be sure that they will attend this informal call and report back to the Group both on the wiki and the mailing list.
The group can trust that anything that Nora is planning will of course take into consideration that which the constituencies think should be considered which is why Inwould encourage the Online Group and other grouos at this stage to get to work on your wiki space etc.
Kind Regards, Sala
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 1, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" <hilyard@oyster.net.ck<mailto:hilyard@oyster.net.ck>> wrote:
Hi Gisella
I believe that only one representative from the Capacity Building Online Education group has been invited to attend the meeting with Nora Abusitta.
Personally I think this is unfair. We are all interested in attending, and have indicated our interest. I will not be attending the Durban meeting so I won’t have another chance to hear her personally and to ask her any questions directly before Durban – and I’d like to hear what Nora’s role is and what she is planning.
At the same time, I don’t think that it should just be one person attending. We all opted to be a part of this group and should hear the same message. If any of the group are going to Durban, then they can take any queries from the rest of the team along with them, and then feed back to us.. It would be good to be able to work WITH Nora on this.. because we are at a bit of a stand-still at the moment.
I am expressing my own personal view on what I feel is an attempt to block participation. It is not normal ICANN practice. I am sure that others will also have a view on this. I will add this note to the wiki.
M
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Maureen Hilyard -
Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro -
William Tibben