Re: [Capacity-Building-WG] Capacity Building WG session with Nora Abusitta
Dear Maureen, This is not an attempt to be unfair and are instructions from staff. If it were open to all those in our Working Group, other constituencies would have cried foul at not being involved. This is merely an informal call with Nora. Traditionally, the invitation was sent to me but I thought that it would be good to have someone from the Online Team. Attending this call is not a "right" but a privilege. Nora will be presenting numerous times to the At Large Team as well as other constituencies, so we will all get to meet and talk to her. The decision to keep this call "small" is Staff's decision and nothing to do with the steering committee's decision. Whomever you select from amongst you to attend this call, should be sure that they will attend this informal call and report back to the Group both on the wiki and the mailing list. The group can trust that anything that Nora is planning will of course take into consideration that which the constituencies think should be considered which is why Inwould encourage the Online Group and other grouos at this stage to get to work on your wiki space etc. Kind Regards, Sala Sent from my iPad On Jul 1, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" <hilyard@oyster.net.ck> wrote:
Hi Gisella
I believe that only one representative from the Capacity Building Online Education group has been invited to attend the meeting with Nora Abusitta.
Personally I think this is unfair. We are all interested in attending, and have indicated our interest. I will not be attending the Durban meeting so I won’t have another chance to hear her personally and to ask her any questions directly before Durban – and I’d like to hear what Nora’s role is and what she is planning.
At the same time, I don’t think that it should just be one person attending. We all opted to be a part of this group and should hear the same message. If any of the group are going to Durban, then they can take any queries from the rest of the team along with them, and then feed back to us.. It would be good to be able to work WITH Nora on this.. because we are at a bit of a stand-still at the moment.
I am expressing my own personal view on what I feel is an attempt to block participation. It is not normal ICANN practice. I am sure that others will also have a view on this. I will add this note to the wiki.
M
Given the circumstances, I will abstain from the meeting. -C On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Maureen,
This is not an attempt to be unfair and are instructions from staff. If it were open to all those in our Working Group, other constituencies would have cried foul at not being involved. This is merely an informal call with Nora.
Traditionally, the invitation was sent to me but I thought that it would be good to have someone from the Online Team. Attending this call is not a "right" but a privilege. Nora will be presenting numerous times to the At Large Team as well as other constituencies, so we will all get to meet and talk to her.
The decision to keep this call "small" is Staff's decision and nothing to do with the steering committee's decision. Whomever you select from amongst you to attend this call, should be sure that they will attend this informal call and report back to the Group both on the wiki and the mailing list.
The group can trust that anything that Nora is planning will of course take into consideration that which the constituencies think should be considered which is why Inwould encourage the Online Group and other grouos at this stage to get to work on your wiki space etc.
Kind Regards, Sala
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 1, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" <hilyard@oyster.net.ck> wrote:
Hi Gisella****
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I believe that only *one* representative from the Capacity Building Online Education group has been invited to attend the meeting with Nora Abusitta.****
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Personally I think this is unfair. We are all interested in attending, and have indicated our interest. I will not be attending the Durban meeting so I won’t have another chance to hear her personally and to ask her any questions directly before Durban – and I’d like to hear what Nora’s role is and what she is planning. ****
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At the same time, I don’t think that it should just be one person attending. We all opted to be a part of this group and should hear the same message. If any of the group are going to Durban, then they can take any queries from the rest of the team along with them, and then feed back to us.. It would be good to be able to work WITH Nora on this.. because we are at a bit of a stand-still at the moment. ****
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I am expressing my own personal view on what I feel is an attempt to block participation. It is not normal ICANN practice. I am sure that others will also have a view on this. I will add this note to the wiki.****
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M****
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I'd also like to leave the opportunity to someone else. satish On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Chaitanya Dhareshwar <chaitanyabd@gmail.com> wrote:
Given the circumstances, I will abstain from the meeting.
-C
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Maureen,
This is not an attempt to be unfair and are instructions from staff. If it were open to all those in our Working Group, other constituencies would have cried foul at not being involved. This is merely an informal call with Nora.
Traditionally, the invitation was sent to me but I thought that it would be good to have someone from the Online Team. Attending this call is not a "right" but a privilege. Nora will be presenting numerous times to the At Large Team as well as other constituencies, so we will all get to meet and talk to her.
The decision to keep this call "small" is Staff's decision and nothing to do with the steering committee's decision. Whomever you select from amongst you to attend this call, should be sure that they will attend this informal call and report back to the Group both on the wiki and the mailing list.
The group can trust that anything that Nora is planning will of course take into consideration that which the constituencies think should be considered which is why Inwould encourage the Online Group and other grouos at this stage to get to work on your wiki space etc.
Kind Regards, Sala
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 1, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" <hilyard@oyster.net.ck> wrote:
Hi Gisella
I believe that only one representative from the Capacity Building Online Education group has been invited to attend the meeting with Nora Abusitta.
Personally I think this is unfair. We are all interested in attending, and have indicated our interest. I will not be attending the Durban meeting so I won’t have another chance to hear her personally and to ask her any questions directly before Durban – and I’d like to hear what Nora’s role is and what she is planning.
At the same time, I don’t think that it should just be one person attending. We all opted to be a part of this group and should hear the same message. If any of the group are going to Durban, then they can take any queries from the rest of the team along with them, and then feed back to us.. It would be good to be able to work WITH Nora on this.. because we are at a bit of a stand-still at the moment.
I am expressing my own personal view on what I feel is an attempt to block participation. It is not normal ICANN practice. I am sure that others will also have a view on this. I will add this note to the wiki.
M
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Those who are eligible to attend from the online group are: Chubasco Natalia Chaitanya Maureen Ali Dev Only one of these can attend, since Chaitanya has bowed out, that leaves 5. I would suggest discussing it amongst yourselves and confirming the name ASAP to Gisella. Kind Regards, Sala Sent from my iPad On Jul 1, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Satish Babu <director@icfoss.in> wrote:
I'd also like to leave the opportunity to someone else.
satish
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Chaitanya Dhareshwar <chaitanyabd@gmail.com> wrote:
Given the circumstances, I will abstain from the meeting.
-C
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Maureen,
This is not an attempt to be unfair and are instructions from staff. If it were open to all those in our Working Group, other constituencies would have cried foul at not being involved. This is merely an informal call with Nora.
Traditionally, the invitation was sent to me but I thought that it would be good to have someone from the Online Team. Attending this call is not a "right" but a privilege. Nora will be presenting numerous times to the At Large Team as well as other constituencies, so we will all get to meet and talk to her.
The decision to keep this call "small" is Staff's decision and nothing to do with the steering committee's decision. Whomever you select from amongst you to attend this call, should be sure that they will attend this informal call and report back to the Group both on the wiki and the mailing list.
The group can trust that anything that Nora is planning will of course take into consideration that which the constituencies think should be considered which is why Inwould encourage the Online Group and other grouos at this stage to get to work on your wiki space etc.
Kind Regards, Sala
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 1, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" <hilyard@oyster.net.ck> wrote:
Hi Gisella
I believe that only one representative from the Capacity Building Online Education group has been invited to attend the meeting with Nora Abusitta.
Personally I think this is unfair. We are all interested in attending, and have indicated our interest. I will not be attending the Durban meeting so I won’t have another chance to hear her personally and to ask her any questions directly before Durban – and I’d like to hear what Nora’s role is and what she is planning.
At the same time, I don’t think that it should just be one person attending. We all opted to be a part of this group and should hear the same message. If any of the group are going to Durban, then they can take any queries from the rest of the team along with them, and then feed back to us.. It would be good to be able to work WITH Nora on this.. because we are at a bit of a stand-still at the moment.
I am expressing my own personal view on what I feel is an attempt to block participation. It is not normal ICANN practice. I am sure that others will also have a view on this. I will add this note to the wiki.
M
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I vote Maureen should attend this on our behalf. Her depth of knowledge and experience means she will fulfill the key criteria for which this meeting is being held (viz providing Nora an update on activities and status) and be able to grasp everything discussed and transfer that wealth of knowledge to us. Best, C On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Those who are eligible to attend from the online group are:
Chubasco Natalia Chaitanya Maureen Ali Dev
Only one of these can attend, since Chaitanya has bowed out, that leaves 5. I would suggest discussing it amongst yourselves and confirming the name ASAP to Gisella.
Kind Regards, Sala
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 1, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Satish Babu <director@icfoss.in> wrote:
I'd also like to leave the opportunity to someone else.
satish
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Chaitanya Dhareshwar <chaitanyabd@gmail.com> wrote:
Given the circumstances, I will abstain from the meeting.
-C
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Maureen,
This is not an attempt to be unfair and are instructions from staff.
If
it were open to all those in our Working Group, other constituencies would have cried foul at not being involved. This is merely an informal call with Nora.
Traditionally, the invitation was sent to me but I thought that it would be good to have someone from the Online Team. Attending this call is not a "right" but a privilege. Nora will be presenting numerous times to the At Large Team as well as other constituencies, so we will all get to meet and talk to her.
The decision to keep this call "small" is Staff's decision and nothing to do with the steering committee's decision. Whomever you select from amongst you to attend this call, should be sure that they will attend this informal call and report back to the Group both on the wiki and the mailing list.
The group can trust that anything that Nora is planning will of course take into consideration that which the constituencies think should be considered which is why Inwould encourage the Online Group and other grouos at this stage to get to work on your wiki space etc.
Kind Regards, Sala
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 1, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" <hilyard@oyster.net.ck> wrote:
Hi Gisella
I believe that only one representative from the Capacity Building Online Education group has been invited to attend the meeting with Nora Abusitta.
Personally I think this is unfair. We are all interested in attending, and have indicated our interest. I will not be attending the Durban meeting so I won’t have another chance to hear her personally and to ask her any questions directly before Durban – and I’d like to hear what Nora’s role is and what she is planning.
At the same time, I don’t think that it should just be one person attending. We all opted to be a part of this group and should hear the same message. If any of the group are going to Durban, then they can take any queries from the rest of the team along with them, and then feed back to us.. It would be good to be able to work WITH Nora on this.. because we are at a bit of a stand-still at the moment.
I am expressing my own personal view on what I feel is an attempt to block participation. It is not normal ICANN practice. I am sure that others will also have a view on this. I will add this note to the wiki.
M
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Thanks Chaitanya But .if we are going to go for a solo participant then I think it should be someone who is going to Durban who can firstly feed back to us after this initial introduction, and then follow up on what is discussed with others, in later meetings in Durban. Unfortunately I can't go to the Durban meeting. But thanks for the nice reference, C! Perhaps Dev and/or Ali ? Do you think the powers-that-be will allow TWO people to attend J. (Its always good to be able to go to meetings where you have to feed back info, with a buddy). Test the boundaries ! M From: Chaitanya Dhareshwar [mailto:chaitanyabd@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 30 June 2013 7:23 p.m. To: Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro Cc: Satish Babu; Maureen Hilyard; At-Large Capacity Building WG; Gisella Gruber-White Subject: Re: [Capacity-Building-WG] Capacity Building WG session with Nora Abusitta I vote Maureen should attend this on our behalf. Her depth of knowledge and experience means she will fulfill the key criteria for which this meeting is being held (viz providing Nora an update on activities and status) and be able to grasp everything discussed and transfer that wealth of knowledge to us. Best, C On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote: Those who are eligible to attend from the online group are: Chubasco Natalia Chaitanya Maureen Ali Dev Only one of these can attend, since Chaitanya has bowed out, that leaves 5. I would suggest discussing it amongst yourselves and confirming the name ASAP to Gisella. Kind Regards, Sala Sent from my iPad On Jul 1, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Satish Babu <director@icfoss.in> wrote:
I'd also like to leave the opportunity to someone else.
satish
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Chaitanya Dhareshwar <chaitanyabd@gmail.com> wrote:
Given the circumstances, I will abstain from the meeting.
-C
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Maureen,
This is not an attempt to be unfair and are instructions from staff. If it were open to all those in our Working Group, other constituencies
would
have cried foul at not being involved. This is merely an informal call with Nora.
Traditionally, the invitation was sent to me but I thought that it would be good to have someone from the Online Team. Attending this call is not a "right" but a privilege. Nora will be presenting numerous times to the At Large Team as well as other constituencies, so we will all get to meet and talk to her.
The decision to keep this call "small" is Staff's decision and nothing to do with the steering committee's decision. Whomever you select from amongst you to attend this call, should be sure that they will attend this informal call and report back to the Group both on the wiki and the mailing list.
The group can trust that anything that Nora is planning will of course take into consideration that which the constituencies think should be considered which is why Inwould encourage the Online Group and other grouos at this stage to get to work on your wiki space etc.
Kind Regards, Sala
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 1, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" <hilyard@oyster.net.ck> wrote:
Hi Gisella
I believe that only one representative from the Capacity Building Online Education group has been invited to attend the meeting with Nora Abusitta.
Personally I think this is unfair. We are all interested in attending, and have indicated our interest. I will not be attending the Durban meeting so I won't have another chance to hear her personally and to ask her any questions directly before Durban - and I'd like to hear what Nora's role is and what she is planning.
At the same time, I don't think that it should just be one person attending. We all opted to be a part of this group and should hear the same message. If any of the group are going to Durban, then they can take any queries from the rest of the team along with them, and then feed back to us.. It would be good to be able to work WITH Nora on this.. because we are at a bit of a stand-still at the moment.
I am expressing my own personal view on what I feel is an attempt to block participation. It is not normal ICANN practice. I am sure that others will also have a view on this. I will add this note to the wiki.
M
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Dear All, Just to let you know that two members of the Capacity Building WG, Dev and Tijani, are attending this informal call. The idea was that they would be able to report back to the group. Also, currently Nora and Chris are scheduled to speak during the ALAC and Regional Leaders Working Session as well to the Academy WG in Durban. However, they are not currently scheduled to speak to the Capacity Building WG in Durban. Would the WG like to invite them? Kind regards, Heidi -----Original Message----- From: capacity-building-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:capacity-building-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:17 PM To: Satish Babu Cc: Gisella Gruber; At-Large Capacity Building WG Subject: Re: [Capacity-Building-WG] Capacity Building WG session with Nora Abusitta Those who are eligible to attend from the online group are: Chubasco Natalia Chaitanya Maureen Ali Dev Only one of these can attend, since Chaitanya has bowed out, that leaves 5. I would suggest discussing it amongst yourselves and confirming the name ASAP to Gisella. Kind Regards, Sala Sent from my iPad On Jul 1, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Satish Babu <director@icfoss.in> wrote:
I'd also like to leave the opportunity to someone else.
satish
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Chaitanya Dhareshwar <chaitanyabd@gmail.com> wrote:
Given the circumstances, I will abstain from the meeting.
-C
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Maureen,
This is not an attempt to be unfair and are instructions from staff. If it were open to all those in our Working Group, other constituencies would have cried foul at not being involved. This is merely an informal call with Nora.
Traditionally, the invitation was sent to me but I thought that it would be good to have someone from the Online Team. Attending this call is not a "right" but a privilege. Nora will be presenting numerous times to the At Large Team as well as other constituencies, so we will all get to meet and talk to her.
The decision to keep this call "small" is Staff's decision and nothing to do with the steering committee's decision. Whomever you select from amongst you to attend this call, should be sure that they will attend this informal call and report back to the Group both on the wiki and the mailing list.
The group can trust that anything that Nora is planning will of course take into consideration that which the constituencies think should be considered which is why Inwould encourage the Online Group and other grouos at this stage to get to work on your wiki space etc.
Kind Regards, Sala
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 1, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" <hilyard@oyster.net.ck> wrote:
Hi Gisella
I believe that only one representative from the Capacity Building Online Education group has been invited to attend the meeting with Nora Abusitta.
Personally I think this is unfair. We are all interested in attending, and have indicated our interest. I will not be attending the Durban meeting so I won’t have another chance to hear her personally and to ask her any questions directly before Durban – and I’d like to hear what Nora’s role is and what she is planning.
At the same time, I don’t think that it should just be one person attending. We all opted to be a part of this group and should hear the same message. If any of the group are going to Durban, then they can take any queries from the rest of the team along with them, and then feed back to us.. It would be good to be able to work WITH Nora on this.. because we are at a bit of a stand-still at the moment.
I am expressing my own personal view on what I feel is an attempt to block participation. It is not normal ICANN practice. I am sure that others will also have a view on this. I will add this note to the wiki.
M
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participants (5)
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Chaitanya Dhareshwar -
Heidi Ullrich -
Maureen Hilyard -
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro -
Satish Babu