Hi Jordan I agree with you in the tricky part of evaluating people we don't know... we are trusting that what is submitted is true without formal verification. The next tricky part would be how to deal with "don't know" on the checklist. In my case it is almost equivalent to "no", since we don't have any other source of information and the applicants know the requirements that we are looking for, so... they should be aware on what they submit for the position (right?). Haven't seen the documents for this particular set, but will do so today *;)* Best, Alejandra -- [image: Photograph] *Alejandra Reynoso*Investigación & Desarrollo | Dominios .gt *P:* +502 23688565 *E:* alejandra.reynoso@cctld.gt 18 Ave. 11-42 Zona 15, V.H. III. Guatemala, Guatemala www.gt On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 1:41 PM Jordan Carter <jordan@internetnz.net.nz> wrote:
Hi Katrina
This makes perfect sense, and it is what I’ll do, but it isn’t quite getting to grips with what I was hoping for.
I would like both - the info people provide, and some expert scrutiny.
That way we can make a balance between the merits of candidates based on what they assert about themselves, and with some check or broader understanding.
It isn’t about creating an insider clique, it’s about making sure we can be confident in appointments we make.
Happy to discuss more in person sometime - I’m curious if others have found this one particularly tricky!
Cheers Jordan
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 at 22:47, Katrina Sataki <katrina@nic.lv> wrote:
Dear Joran, All,
I believe that the idea is that we 1) review the documents and information presented to us by candidates, 2) see how the qualifications they state they have match with the required skills, 3) select those who have the necessary skills to do the job.
If we select and support only those we know (based only on the fact that we know those people), we will never give a chance to others and we will never be able to get new people on board. Even worse: sorry to say, but I have seen well-known people being selected and failing to deliver. I have also seen unknown candidates with fantastic experience and skills being turned down because they were “competing” against well-known people (I mentioned above) and lost.
Therefore, I would ask you to set your personal sympathies aside, do a thorough review of submitted documents and select the best people. Yes, it means that we have to trust that they have provided fair and honest evaluation of their skills and qualities.
Kind regards,
]{atrina
*From:* Ccnso-council [mailto:ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Jordan Carter *Sent:* Thursday, December 19, 2019 1:35 AM *To:* Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org> *Cc:* ccnso-council <ccnso-council@icann.org> *Subject:* Re: [ccnso-council] Selection Process RSS GWG
Hi all
Is anyone else finding this difficult? Neither I nor my team know many of the candidates, and the information being presented is just sourced from the candidates.
Can anyone offer a professional, informed opinion about the suitability of these people for this role?
cheers
Jordan
On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 22:20, Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org> wrote:
Dear ccNSO Councillors,
The call for volunteers for the 2 ccNSO appointed members to the Root Server System Governance Working Group (RSS GWG) closed yesterday, 16 December 2019, 23:59 UTC. The ccNSO secretariat is now initiating the selection process. In accordance with the relevant ICANN Board resolution to initiate the RSS GWG, the ccNSO Council should appoint two representatives. The Councillors eligible to vote are expected to review the applications and select members based on how well the candidates meet the set of requirements.
An email was sent to the individual email addresses of the members of the ccNSO Council eligible to vote, with in attachment the application material as submitted by the 6 candidates.
The 6 candidates, in alphabetical order:
Akçam, Abdullah Cemil (.tr) | ACA
Akinsanya, Adesola (.ng) | AA
Constant, Jean Nahum (.ht) | JNC
Espinoza, Luis Diego (.na) | LDE
Janssen, Peter (.eu) | JP
Kecic, Zarko (.rs) | ZK
*Your action is required* *by* *Friday,* *20 December 2019 (23:59 UTC) *
*INSTRUCTIONS:*
- Please review the application material and select your preferred candidate – taking into account the candidate qualification requirements – by sending an email to ccnsosecretariat@icann.org , no later than *Friday, 20 December 2019 (23:59 UTC) *, with the subject line: RSS GWG. - Your most preferred candidate should receive six (6) points, the second candidate five (5) points, etc, and the sixth and least preferred candidate one (1) point. If you believe a candidate does not meet the criteria: please assign zero (0) points.
A kind reminder that the ccNSO Secretariat will track and publish for each council member its participation in an election process.
Based on each of the individual Councillor’s rankings, the Secretariat will prepare the overall ranking of all candidates and report the ranking to the ccNSO Council on 23 December 2019. The ccNSO Council chair will inform relevant ICANN staff latest on 8 January 2020 of the ccNSO appointed members to the RSS GWG.
Thank you and kind regards,
Joke Braeken
*Selection Process*
After closure of the call for volunteers, the materials submitted will be sent to the ccNSO Councillors eligible to select the members of the RSS GWG. Further details on the selection criteria and the selection procedure by the ccNSO Councillors can be found here:
*https://ccnso.icann.org/en/workinggroups/candidate-requirements-selection-pr... <https://ccnso.icann.org/en/workinggroups/candidate-requirements-selection-pr...> *
*Candidate qualification requirements*
In accordance with the relevant ICANN Board resolution to initiate the RSS GWG, the ccNSO Council should appoint two representatives. The Councillors eligible to vote will review the applications and select members based on how well the candidates meet the set of candidate requirements listed below:
- Direct experience and in-depth knowledge of the DNS Root Server System as it relates to ccTLD registry operations - Understanding the purpose of the RSS GWG - Analytical skills, ability to interpret quantitative and qualitative evidence, and capacity to draw conclusions purely based on evidence. - Able to work and communicate in written and spoken English. - Effective communication skills to represent ccTLD interests and to keep the ccNSO Council and broader ccTLD community informed on progress. - Experience in managing and/or participating in committees (e.g. meeting coordination, reporting, and escalation) in order to contribute meaningfully to the work of the GWG. - Demonstrated ability in relationship management to support diplomatic discussion, consensus driven decision making, and productive negotiation.
Further a candidate:
- Should indicate why she or he is interested in becoming involved in the RSS GWG. - Indicate the ccTLD manager with whom the candidate is associated. - Should be employed or have active backing by the ccTLD manager with whom the candidate is associated. - Demonstrate the support by the ccTLD manager in respect to the required time commitment to participate actively in the RSS GWG. - Commit to abide by the rules of the RSS GWG
*Timeline (v2)*
- 20 Nov: Secretariat to send out pre-announcement to community - 20 Nov: Secretariat to send proposed candidate requirements and the proposed selection procedure to ccNSO Council - 25 Nov (23:59 UTC): Council to agree on final candidate requirements and the selection procedure - 26 Nov until 16 December (23:59 UTC): call for volunteers - 17 Dec: Secretariat to send expressions of interest and application material to the individual non-conflicted ccNSO Council members - Latest on 20 Dec (23:59 UTC): Councillors will send her/his list of preferred candidates to the ccNSO Secretariat - 23 Dec: the Secretariat will prepare the overall ranking of all candidates and report the ranking to the ccNSO Council - Latest on 8 Jan: The ccNSO Council chair will inform relevant ICANN staff of the ccNSO appointed members to the RSS GWG.
*Background & Links*
- Announcement call for volunteers: https://ccnso.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-26nov19-en.htm - The GWG charter, operating procedures, and work plan as well as relevant resources are published on its workspace <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=120820189>. - ICANN Board resolution to initiate the RSS GWG: https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2019-11-07-en#2.d <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources...>
Best regards,
Joke Braeken
ccNSO Policy Advisor
joke.braeken@icann.org
Follow @ccNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ccNSO
Follow the ccNSO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ccnso/
_______________________________________________ Ccnso-council mailing list Ccnso-council@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccnso-council _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
--
*Jordan Carter* Group Chief Executive *InternetNZ | Ipurangi Aotearoa*
Helping New Zealanders harness the power of the Internet www.internetnz.nz
*M* +64 21 442 649 *O* +64 4 555 0123 [image: InternetNZ]
-- Jordan Carter Group Chief Executive, InternetNZ
+64-21-442-649 -|- jordan@InternetNZ.net.nz
Sent on the run, apologies for brevity _______________________________________________ Ccnso-council mailing list Ccnso-council@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccnso-council _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.