And anyway, there’s slightly more to it than “If all we do if the quorum is not reached, is have another vote where the quorum doesn't apply” suggests. Nigel is well aware I would have thought, that it is quite common to have a “first vote quorum, second vote no quorum” process in i.e. membership organizations and boards for important decisions. If not enough members are present or participated in the first vote, there will be a call for a second round later in time, mentioning the outcome of the first round and urging all members to participate in second vote. A quorum rule aims at assuring inclusion, preventing capture and stimulates active participation in decision making. Cheers, Roelof Meijer SIDN | Meander 501 | 6825 MD | P.O. Box 5022 | 6802 EA | ARNHEM | THE NETHERLANDS T +31 (0)26 352 55 00 | M +31 (0)6 11 395 775 | F +31 (0)26 352 55 05 roelof.meijer@sidn.nl<mailto:roelof.meijer@sidn.nl> | www.sidn.nl<http://www.sidn.nl/> From: owner-ccnso-council@icann.org [mailto:owner-ccnso-council@icann.org] On Behalf Of Katrina Sataki Sent: woensdag 5 juni 2013 16:59 To: Nigel Roberts; Gabriella Schittek Cc: ccnso-members@icann.org; ccnso-council@icann.org Subject: [ccnso-council] Re: [ccnso-members] Reminder: Voting on IDN ccPDP Nigel, You are, of course, right! And the question is not stupid at all. However, the answer is not simple. The Council established a group to review the election process and to identify issues related to the current voting scheme. I am chairing the group. During our discussions we also identified several related issues (which are not directly relevant to the main task of our group but which we thought are worth exploring). One of the issues concerns the current quorum rule. In Beijing we presented our finding to the Council and the Council agreed that the quorum rule should be discussed by a larger group. I will keep you informed! Kind regards, ]{atrina -- Katrina Sataki, CEO [emlogo] NIC.LV – The Registry of ccTLD .lv Institute of Mathematics and Computer Science, University of Latvia Raina bulvaris 29, Riga LV-1459 Tel: +371 67085858 | Fax: +371 67225072 | Mobile: +371 29249666 E-mail: katrina@nic.lv<mailto:katrina@nic.lv> | Skype: kat..s | Web: www.nic.lv<http://www.nic.lv/> -- € From: Nigel Roberts <nigel@channelisles.net<mailto:nigel@channelisles.net>> Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 1:38 PM To: Gabriella Schittek <gabriella.schittek@icann.org<mailto:gabriella.schittek@icann.org>> Cc: "ccnso-members@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-members@icann.org>" <ccnso-members@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-members@icann.org>>, "ccnso-council@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-council@icann.org>" <ccnso-council@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-council@icann.org>>, <nigel@channelisles.net<mailto:nigel@channelisles.net>> Subject: Re: [ccnso-members] Reminder: Voting on IDN ccPDP Can someone please explain the logic of the voting procedure. If all we do if the quorum is not reached, is have another vote where the quorum doesn't apply, then I fail to see the point of having a quorum. (Forgive me for asking such a stupid question, but we weren't members when these rules were adopted). On 06/04/2013 11:22 AM, Gabriella Schittek wrote: Dear ccNSO members, Again, this is a reminder that the voting on the IDN ccPDP is closing in one week, 11 June 23:59 UTC. To date, we have received 41 votes – many thanks to all of you who have voted! – however, we need to reach at least 68 votes so that the voting is valid. I would therefore be grateful if you could take some time to cast your vote. All of our primary contacts should have received a ballot on Tuesday, 21 May from tally@tally.icann.org<mailto:tally@tally.icann.org> – if you can't find this, please, check your spam filter. If you can't find it there, please, contact me! For those of you who feel you wish to learn more what the voting is about, please see our recording from the two webinars that were held on this topic: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/p9b0ox2ifdb/ and http://icann.adobeconnect.com/p9q9eux8m27/ Kind regards, Gabi
