Dear Nigel, To clarify, the ccNSO meetings Guideline, as well as other guidelines were adopted by the Council, after being developed internally and reflected the practice to that date. The Guidelines and Rules of the ccNSO are (internal) rules and procedures as foreseen in Article IX section 3.11 of the ICANN Bylaws. If I implied that the Guideline review committee (GRC), has to take take a decision, in this particular matter or on changes to Guidelines in general, I apologise for creating such an impression. Of course you are right that the Council is the decision making body with regard to a change or introduction of a guideline. I referred to the GRC as a mechanism to review, update and improve guidelines in general. Kind regards, Bart On 06/05/15 13:40, "Nigel Roberts" <nigel@channelisles.net> wrote:
It seems to me that the Guideline Review Committee is a subsidiary committee of the ccNSO.
Council is the decision making body of the ccNSO. It makes no sense for a subsidiary body to have the power to exclude members of the Council that created it, unless that power appears in the ICANN By-Laws, which I doubt.
It makes no sense for a ccNSO Council who themselves has been excluded by ICANN internal policy from a ccNSO mailing list, then to have a vote on who can be added (including themselves).
Even on the literal construction of the words quoted as being ccNSO operating policy (see below) and ignoring for the time being that this guideline is not part of the bylaws, it appears that the ccNSO council is allowed to approve the list membership of ccNSO Councillors.
I don't see anything that requires this be done at a Council Meeting so it can be done by email agreement.
I therefore ask the three NomCom appointees which of them thinks that they would wish to have membership of any or all ccNSO discussion list to carry out their roles.
And that council agree, by email, now, the following :-
"that all ccNSO Councillors shall have granted subscription, for the duration of their tenure as Councillor".
Of course, if the four Councillors currently barred from the list are happy to wait until the next meeting for a discussion, then I'm happy to amend the above proposal to put that as a Resolution on the agenda for the next meeting.
On 06/05/15 11:34, Bart Boswinkel wrote:
€ Others, at their request and after approval of the ccNSO Council, for the Duration subscription is granted by the ccNSO Council.