Hi Jordan, Thank you for raising this! I suggested it on the Council call and nobody seemed to object. I completely agree with you – the idea is to maintain the relationships and it is great to have meetings and meaningful discussions. There are absolutely no questions about that. But when we ask for a meeting and then nobody wants to discuss anything (or even come up with topics but when it comes to discussion, it turns out that nobody is really interested – let’s be fair, we’ve been there before) I am not sure it’s the best way forward. From my personal experience I can tell that it’s a real pain to chair a meeting and try to artificially come up with SOMETHING to make sure that a 60 minute meeting does not end 10 minutes after it starts because nobody from the ccNSO wants to talk about anything. I suspect it does not go unnoticed when we have nothing substantial to talk about. I may not remember correctly but didn’t we ask what Board members find tricky (ok, perhaps, we did not use the same word) in this remote working mode last time when we met? We can, of course, ask it again – it’s still a valid question. But if that’s the only question we have, the meeting will be over in 10 minutes, I’m afraid. Maybe we can ask for 15-20 minutes and be clear that we only want to connect and make sure that everyone is fine? I am just generating ideas here. Regards, ]{atrina From: Ccnso-council <ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jordan Carter <jordan@internetnz.net.nz> Date: Tuesday, 26 January 2021 at 22:20 To: Kimberly Carlson <kimberly.carlson@icann.org> Cc: ccnso-council <ccnso-council@icann.org> Subject: Re: [ccnso-council] Topics for discussion? Hi everyone I can't think of any specific agenda items, but I just want to question the "if no items, no conversation" idea. Isn't part of the point of the meeting to maintain the important relationships between the various groups? And we don't have the informal socialising chances to do that.... So would a low key topic about "what are you finding most tricky in this remote working mode" dialogue be useful, just to carry the conversation on, and let us connect as people? Just curious about what you think of this idea. cheers Jordan On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 at 05:29, Kimberly Carlson <kimberly.carlson@icann.org> wrote: Dear Councilors, As a reminder, please respond regarding bilateral meetings as outlined below – by Wednesday, 27 January. If you do not feel a session is necessary at this time, let us know that as well. Thank you, Kim From: Ccnso-council <ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Katrina Sataki <katrina@nic.lv> Date: Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:45 AM To: 'ccnso-council' <ccnso-council@icann.org> Subject: [ccnso-council] Topics for discussion? Dear Colleagues, As agreed, I hope you had some time to think about topics for our bilateral meetings (if any, of course, i.e. if there are any topics we want to discuss with the respective groups). Please share your thoughts on the following questions: Are there any pressing topics we would like to discuss with the Board? Are there any pressing topics we would like to discuss with the GAC? (there was a suggestion to provide an update on ccPDP3 and ccPDP4 but that could be done as webinars, not as a bilateral meeting) If there are no topics we want to discuss, there is no need to schedule meetings and then artificially try to come up with something to fill in the slot. If there are things we need to discuss, however, then we need to schedule the meetings as soon as possible. Please let me know if there is anything by Wednesday, 27 January. Are there any topics you would like to raise/discuss with the GNSO Council (we have already received from them a request for a bilateral meeting)? For this we have more time, let’s say, by 5 February. And, the most urgent question: Is there anything you would like me, Alejandra and Pablo to raise during our 1-2-1 call with ICANN CEO later today? (if there is anything, please let me know by 14 UTC today) Thank you! Kind regards ]{atrina _______________________________________________ Ccnso-council mailing list Ccnso-council@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccnso-council _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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