I share Byron's concern. I'm also concerned that our re-allocation of the money to governments (out of all institutions!) could be perceived as a sign of the ccNSO's outreach efforts not being successful enough. May be we may need to look at what more we can do to make sure that our members make use of this opportunity in the future. I'm really concerned that money meant for ccTLDs ends up being used for governments & it is fair to expect governments (even from least developed countries) to have more financial muscle than ccTLDs. Can't we keep the money to fund more ccTLDs for ICANN Sydney? Or will the Sydney meeting happen after the end of the current ICANN financial year? I think it's very important we continue forging very close relations with GAC, but I'm not comfortable with the ccNSO giving financial assistance to governments. Regards, Vika Mpisane .za Domain Name Authority Tel: +27 11 275 0082 Fax:+27 11 234 5022 _____ From: owner-ccnso-council@icann.org [mailto:owner-ccnso-council@icann.org] On Behalf Of Byron Holland Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:39 PM To: 'ceo@auda.org.au'; 'ccnso-council@icann.org' Subject: Re: [ccnso-council] travel funding request No objection. One question. Any risk of losing ICAAN's funding in the future if we turn it back now? Byron --- This communication is intended to be received only by the individual or entity to whom or to which it is addressed and contains information that may be privileged and is confidential and subject to copyright. Any unauthorized use, copying, review or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please delete the message and notify the sender by reply email. Thank you for your co-operation. _____ From: owner-ccnso-council@icann.org <owner-ccnso-council@icann.org> To: ccNSO Council <ccnso-council@icann.org> Sent: Tue Apr 07 23:14:21 2009 Subject: [ccnso-council] travel funding request All, As you know we have submitted to ICANN 13 people who will be funded to travel to Sydney. We had an allocation of 18 to be used by the end of June 2009 and therefore have not taken up 5. I have been approached by the GAC Chair, Janis Karklins, who says: "As you may be aware, the GAC is currently working through mechanisms to ensure least and less developed country participation and securing financial support for their participation through the ICANN operational and budget planning process. As this processes and a proposed approach is for the next fiscal year, we are faced with some attendees needing support for the ICANN Sydney meeting. Would the ccNSO have space through its travel support from ICANN and if so, would it be willing to share its unused travel support for 3 to 4 government representatives from developing or least developed countries? The GAC stands ready to discuss with ccNSO or ICANN staff the administrative details in case of your favorable response." I have checked with Doug Brent and Theresa Swinehart who say that we would not 'share' any unused support but rather we would simply confirm to ICANN that we have no objection to them reallocating our unused support to some nominees put forward by the GAC. I think we should do this in the spirit of cooperation. Does anyone object? Cheers, Chris Disspain CEO - auDA au Domain Administration Ltd <mailto:ceo@auda.org.au> ceo@auda.org.au <http://www.auda.org.au/> www.auda.org.au Important Notice - This email may contain information which is confidential and/or subject to legal privilege, and is intended for the use of the named addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or copy any part of this email. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately. Please consider the environment before printing this email. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.285 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release Date: 04/08/09 05:53:00