Hi Kim, all, Personally, I think it’s a purely administrative action to publish the policies that have been passed by the PDPs in the way you describe. I don’t think any mandate or process is required to do so. Should we test that with the council? Cheers Jordan Jordan Carter — .au Domain Administration +61-417-243-647 on Signal or iMessage ________________________________ From: Kim Davies via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2025 6:43:49 PM To: Irina Danelia via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org> Cc: Kim Davies <kim.davies@iana.org> Subject: [Ccnso-pgawg] Re: [Ext] Re: [EXTERNAL] - Friendly reminder Re: Draft final report PGA WG Hi all, I’ve also made a significant number of changes but almost all are just grammatical fixes, consistent usage of terms etc. With that said, I suggest the document go through a thorough copy-editing pass just for consistency, formatting etc. I think the one question of substance I had was to clarify what is means for the council to “adopt” the document. Also, an observation I received from an ICANN colleague that I wanted to share, and apologies if this reiterates earlier comments I made in the ad-hoc group or this working group. The overview document doesn’t fully address that the ccNSO doesn’t have a definite way of describing its adopted policies, their current status, and how they fit together. They highlight the following from the GNSO as a point of comparison: We have an example on the gtld side, where we have an overarching Consensus Policy Page: https://www.icann.org/consensus-policies-en and then each policy has its own page with revisions and clarifications (see https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/igo-ingo-protection-policy-2024-02-21-...) In contrast, to take the ccTLD retirement policy for example, the policy isn’t posted in its final form with adoption date etc. anywhere that I am aware of. This means that to cite the policy, IANA has to cite a subset of pages within a PDF of the draft policy proposal at the end of our procedures page: https://www.iana.org/help/cctld-retirement kim From: Irina Danelia via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org> Date: Monday, April 28, 2025 at 08:32 To: "ccnso-pgawg@icann.org" <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org> Cc: Irina Danelia <i.danelia@cctld.ru> Subject: [Ccnso-pgawg] Re: [Ext] Re: [EXTERNAL] - Friendly reminder Re: Draft final report PGA WG Hi all! I made several comments in the document. All editorial, not on substance See you tomorrow! Irina From: Bart Boswinkel via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2025 12:58 PM To: Jordan Carter <jordan.carter@auda.org.au>; Bart Boswinkel via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org>; Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org> Subject: [Ccnso-pgawg] Re: [Ext] Re: [EXTERNAL] - Friendly reminder Re: Draft final report PGA WG Hi Jordan Correct, tomorrow (this week) is first reading full report. Kind regards, Bart From: Jordan Carter <jordan.carter@auda.org.au<mailto:jordan.carter@auda.org.au>> Date: Monday, 28 April 2025 at 10:45 To: Bart Boswinkel via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] Re: [EXTERNAL] - [Ccnso-pgawg] Friendly reminder Re: Draft final report PGA WG Hi all I’m back from my holiday, speak with you tomorrow! Report looks good broadly speaking. Only wonder if we should do any more specification of the proposed terms for the study groups? I have some non substantive editorial changes to suggest that I hope to tack into the Google doc this afternoon European time. I presume that our meeting this week will be a first reading? Cheers Jordan Jordan Carter — .au Domain Administration +61-417-243-647 on Signal or iMessage ________________________________ From: Bart Boswinkel via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2025 6:26:42 PM To: ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org> <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>>; Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] - [Ccnso-pgawg] Friendly reminder Re: Draft final report PGA WG Dear all As a friendly reminder Please review the draft report: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ouZnDqzikDxnuhlz5VPw0uWvqdCxX2Giy5mEGN4c... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1ouZnDqzikDxnu...> Any comments or suggested edits, please include in suggestion mode in the doc or in response the this email. The next Policy Gap Analysis Working Group teleconference is scheduled for 29 April 2025 at 17:00 UTC. Main topic is review of the report Kind regards, Bart From: Joke Braeken via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, 16 April 2025 at 06:08 To: "ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>" <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>> Subject: [Ccnso-pgawg] Draft final report PGA WG Dear All, Please find here the draft final report by the PGA working group, as introduced yesterday by Bart to the group. Please review the document, and suggest any edits or comments you may have either directly in the document, or on the PGA mailing list. Thank you. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ouZnDqzikDxnuhlz5VPw0uWvqdCxX2Giy5mEGN4c... 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I hope that it can be easily done because I think it benefits all! My wishlist would be: * A clear table of adopted policies, and whether they are active, retired, amended or superseded * For each policy, publish the clearly delineated normative policy language, distinct from anything else that is informative or optional reading, like council and board transmittal artefacts * Cross-reference any normative clarifications or interpretational guidance (errata, formal communications) that must be read in conjunction with the associated policy. * Ideally in HTML for ease of citation and cutting-and-pasting * Situated at a concise long-lived URL that isn’t likely to change when software gets upgraded. I note many cited documents in our work have been on the community wiki where many URLs recently broke. Another point of comparison or inspiration is the ASO policy list: https://aso.icann.org/policy/global/current-global-policies/. To look at the IPv4 allocation policy IANA must follow as an example, the policy language is clearly stated without extraneous material: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/allocation-ipv4-post-exhaustion-2012-0... kim From: Chris Disspain <chris.disspain@identity.digital> Date: Tuesday, April 29, 2025 at 11:01 To: Jordan Carter via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org> Cc: Kim Davies <kim.davies@iana.org>, Jordan Carter <jordan.carter@auda.org.au> Subject: Re: [Ccnso-pgawg] [Ext] Re: [EXTERNAL] - Friendly reminder Re: Draft final report PGA WG I agree. My understanding is that publication should follow ‘automatically’ after board adoption. Cheers, CD Chris Disspain +44 7880 642456 [cid:image001.jpg@01DBB8F9.E45AB940] On 29 Apr 2025, at 18:59, Jordan Carter via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org> wrote: Hi Kim, all, Personally, I think it’s a purely administrative action to publish the policies that have been passed by the PDPs in the way you describe. I don’t think any mandate or process is required to do so. Should we test that with the council? Cheers Jordan Jordan Carter — .au Domain Administration +61-417-243-647 on Signal or iMessage ________________________________ From: Kim Davies via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2025 6:43:49 PM To: Irina Danelia via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>> Cc: Kim Davies <kim.davies@iana.org<mailto:kim.davies@iana.org>> Subject: [Ccnso-pgawg] Re: [Ext] Re: [EXTERNAL] - Friendly reminder Re: Draft final report PGA WG Hi all, I’ve also made a significant number of changes but almost all are just grammatical fixes, consistent usage of terms etc. With that said, I suggest the document go through a thorough copy-editing pass just for consistency, formatting etc. I think the one question of substance I had was to clarify what is means for the council to “adopt” the document. Also, an observation I received from an ICANN colleague that I wanted to share, and apologies if this reiterates earlier comments I made in the ad-hoc group or this working group. The overview document doesn’t fully address that the ccNSO doesn’t have a definite way of describing its adopted policies, their current status, and how they fit together. They highlight the following from the GNSO as a point of comparison: We have an example on the gtld side, where we have an overarching Consensus Policy Page: https://www.icann.org/consensus-policies-en and then each policy has its own page with revisions and clarifications (see https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/igo-ingo-protection-policy-2024-02-21-...) In contrast, to take the ccTLD retirement policy for example, the policy isn’t posted in its final form with adoption date etc. anywhere that I am aware of. This means that to cite the policy, IANA has to cite a subset of pages within a PDF of the draft policy proposal at the end of our procedures page: https://www.iana.org/help/cctld-retirement kim From: Irina Danelia via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>> Date: Monday, April 28, 2025 at 08:32 To: "ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>" <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>> Cc: Irina Danelia <i.danelia@cctld.ru<mailto:i.danelia@cctld.ru>> Subject: [Ccnso-pgawg] Re: [Ext] Re: [EXTERNAL] - Friendly reminder Re: Draft final report PGA WG Hi all! I made several comments in the document. All editorial, not on substance See you tomorrow! Irina From: Bart Boswinkel via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2025 12:58 PM To: Jordan Carter <jordan.carter@auda.org.au<mailto:jordan.carter@auda.org.au>>; Bart Boswinkel via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>>; Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Subject: [Ccnso-pgawg] Re: [Ext] Re: [EXTERNAL] - Friendly reminder Re: Draft final report PGA WG Hi Jordan Correct, tomorrow (this week) is first reading full report. Kind regards, Bart From: Jordan Carter <jordan.carter@auda.org.au<mailto:jordan.carter@auda.org.au>> Date: Monday, 28 April 2025 at 10:45 To: Bart Boswinkel via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>>, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] Re: [EXTERNAL] - [Ccnso-pgawg] Friendly reminder Re: Draft final report PGA WG Hi all I’m back from my holiday, speak with you tomorrow! Report looks good broadly speaking. Only wonder if we should do any more specification of the proposed terms for the study groups? I have some non substantive editorial changes to suggest that I hope to tack into the Google doc this afternoon European time. I presume that our meeting this week will be a first reading? Cheers Jordan Jordan Carter — .au Domain Administration +61-417-243-647 on Signal or iMessage ________________________________ From: Bart Boswinkel via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2025 6:26:42 PM To: ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org> <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>>; Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@icann.org<mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] - [Ccnso-pgawg] Friendly reminder Re: Draft final report PGA WG Dear all As a friendly reminder Please review the draft report: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ouZnDqzikDxnuhlz5VPw0uWvqdCxX2Giy5mEGN4c... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1ouZnDqzikDxnu...> Any comments or suggested edits, please include in suggestion mode in the doc or in response the this email. The next Policy Gap Analysis Working Group teleconference is scheduled for 29 April 2025 at 17:00 UTC. Main topic is review of the report Kind regards, Bart From: Joke Braeken via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, 16 April 2025 at 06:08 To: "ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>" <ccnso-pgawg@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-pgawg@icann.org>> Cc: Joke Braeken <joke.braeken@icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>> Subject: [Ccnso-pgawg] Draft final report PGA WG Dear All, Please find here the draft final report by the PGA working group, as introduced yesterday by Bart to the group. Please review the document, and suggest any edits or comments you may have either directly in the document, or on the PGA mailing list. Thank you. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ouZnDqzikDxnuhlz5VPw0uWvqdCxX2Giy5mEGN4c... 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