+1 Regards Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos On Sep 5, 2017 4:16 PM, "James Gannon" <james@cyberinvasion.net> wrote: Even if it was its out of scope for this group. -----Original Message----- From: ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds- bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Dardailler Sent: 05 September 2017 16:01 To: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> Cc: John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com>; ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] lotsa money, was Fwd: Board reply to CCWG-AP On 2017-09-05 16:50, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
Hello Daniel/Jon
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:29 PM, Daniel Dardailler <danield@w3.org> wrote:
On 2017-09-05 16:21, Jon Nevett wrote:
Sean: No refunds from the auction proceeds were committed to or anticipated. Not sure where this idea is coming from. Jon
SO: Thanks for clarification Jon
There was a mixup in the thread at some point between refunding the applicants of the surplus of applicant fees, and refunding the applicants going to auctions using the auction benefits. I think the second is clearly out but I'm still wondering if the first one is a real option.
SO: If by "real option" you mean using auction proceed to refund applicants, I don't see why that should be an option at all.
No, I meant using the application legal surplus to refund the applicants (in the 130M); is that a valid option that could be implemented ?
Regards
On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 to that Alberto line of reasoning Alberto. Though it will be good to know if ICANN has indeed legally committed (as per contract) to provide some refunds from auction proceed.
If that is the case i don't think its something within our scope to challenge we will just then need to clarify from ICANN how much is really available and accessible in the auction proceeds account.
Regards
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Alberto Soto <asoto@ibero-americano.org> wrote:
do not know how the signed contract is. I do not know if the return is correct. Whoever buys a restaurant and does not get profitability does so at their own risk. Who buys a domain and does not obtain profitability, does so at their own risk. ICANN should not be the guarantee if no profitability is obtained.
Regards Alberto
-----Mensaje original----- De: ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org] En nombre de Daniel Dardailler Enviado el: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 6:56 AM Para: John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> CC: ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org Asunto: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] lotsa money, was Fwd: Board reply to CCWG-AP
On 2017-09-04 23:48, John R. Levine wrote: Is the current financial position of ICANN really an impediment to
what ICANN wants to do in support of its mission ? I was under the
impression that ICANN's budget was healthy enough to implement its
mission optimally today, with also a large untouched pot coming from
the new gTLD application process (unused legal costs if I understand
correctly).
Not really. ICANN's operating budget is fully committed. There is
indeed a lot of unspent new gTLD application money, but it's a whole
separate can of worms. It's not ours to spend and since ICANN said
the price was set to cover their costs, the obvious and ethical thing
to do will be to refund the excess to the applicants.
I kind of agree with the ethical part (although I haven't read the contract those applicants signed and what was promised in writing) but is it really going to be obvious to refund hundreds of applicants, some of them potentially gone as a business ?
R's, John
PS:
How is it different to give away the funds to the ICANN community
(for projects aligned with the ICANN mission) vs. to give them back
to the board directly, given that the board is driven by the community ?
Well, actually, it's the board's money to give away, not ours. We're
just offering them advice.
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