Thank you Marika for putting this document together. I second Alan that the over all objective is far too limiting and contradictory with some of the sub-objectives that are listed under it. My first concern is with limiting funds to DNS only. When the first survey was circulated, I stated that "funding should go to projects with a strong technical component aligned with ICANN's mission to improve the stability, security, and global interoperability of the Internet. Overall, in the fundraising scene, it is very hard to secure funding for projects with a technical focus so the auction proceeds are an opportunity to channel funding towards those type of initiatives dealing with internet infrastructure challenges." My answer was grouped under DNS development, but I actually meant technical/infrastructure issues more broadly: that is, domains but also numbers and standards. These are topics that are core to ICANN's mission and are the ones, that in my view should get a higher percentage of funding. Second, and as it is becoming evident from the discussion about the definition of Open Internet, I think this sub-objective cannot be grouped under DNS Development... a solution may be for this to be a second, independent objective as a whole. I am also unsure about listing "for the benefit of capacity building and underserved populations" as an objective. To me, we can state that we will prioritize projects that work with underserved populations, we can require that all projects include a component to build capacities, but these are not objectives in it of themselves... they are more like characteristics, activities or qualities of a project. I look forward to today's conversation to delve into these matters a little deeper. Best regards, Carolina El 2017-08-10 08:53, elliot noss escribió:
this is the heart of the discussion. our CCWG, in my view, can and should go outside of the mandate that is acceptable for the ICANN organization and community itself.
to answer alan’s question (while not forking the thread), I was using the word “effectively” in the sense of “for all intents and purposes” i.e. by framing the mind map in this way we were simply concluding on the narrow construction point. I hope that makes sense and happy to explain more on the call.
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On Aug 10, 2017, at 4:20 AM, James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net> wrote:
These topics are so far outside of ICANNs mandate that I really urge caution here.
FROM: ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org] ON BEHALF OF Arsène Tungali SENT: 10 August 2017 08:00 TO: judith@jhellerstein.com CC: ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org SUBJECT: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - Objective/priorities & examples mind map
Thanks Judith for raising a point i personally care so much about: Internet shutdown! We are facing it currently in DRC and this is very limiting for people to enjoy the Internet because they cannot easily connect.
Open Internet for me means making sure no one is preventing, for any reason be it, others to access and use the Internet.
Internet shutdown is just part of the whole concept of Internet freedom violation which also includes censorship, surveillance, content take downs, etc.
All of these practices are also refraining the deployement and development of the DNS because if people cannot connect, then the DNS has no reason to be spoken about. And that's ICANN!
In terms of activities (i tried hard to include them in my answers to the survey but might have forgotten when i had to send it for the 2nd time):
- capacity building to help citizens know how to circumvent Internet shutdown, how to behave in cases of surveillance (use of encryption tools for example),
- capacity building in ICT policy to support stakeholders to understand the policy dvpmt process and be in a position to challenge policies that are not internet freedom friendly,
- digital security trainings,
- etc
The concept of open Internet is very broad, we might not be able to limit it scope but we can agree on a broader definition(which includes net neutrality as well as the aspect of internet freedom) and then judge projects based on the fact that they fit into this broad definition or not. Which will not be an easy task!
For me, Net neutrality (being able to access the whole of the Internet, at all time and by anyone) is somehow related to internet freedom (because when it is violated, only those who know how to circumvent will be be able to connect).
Hope these help. Happy to expand if need be.
I would like to send my apologies once again if i am not able to join today's call. As you know, we have issues with Internet outta here!!
Regards,
Arsene
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On Aug 10, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote:
HI All,
I do like the mind map as it captures the capacity building activities that were discussed. As for the definition of Open Internet, I recall we discussed the following definitions or qualifications of the phrase. During the call I had defined Open Internet as standards based, adhering to the W3C guidelines and standards. It means that the network must be inter-operable and accessible.
I also see an Open Internet as being more inclusive it is a network that is stable, scalable, agile, secure, profitable, sustainable and ultimately equitable. An open Internet provides the ability for civil society groups, indigenous communities and others to take an active part in the network.
However, I also see the term Open Internet as encompassing a bit more such as making sure that the Internet is accessible to everyone and this also speaks of capacity building to avoid Internet shutdowns. Internet Shut downs close down the Internet and we want to make the Internet as Open as possible
Looking forward to the call tomorrow
Best,
Judith
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On 8/7/2017 4:32 AM, Marika Konings wrote: Dear All,
Per the discussion during the last CCWG meeting, staff has worked with the co-chairs to develop the attached mind map which aims to regroup the objectives based on the survey results as well as the subsequent discussions. Note that:
* As a result of this regrouping some objectives have been excluded as specific priorities but one could envision how projects that may focus on some of those areas could also fit within the current identified objective and priorities. * The mind map flags that further work will be needed to define or explain the term ‘Open Internet’. * As a number of you indicated in response to the survey, the topic of auction proceeds cannot be considered as an objective of fund allocation and as such will need to be considered separately. It will be up to the CCWG to determine whether that is a discussion that needs to be held now or whether it can be parked for a later date. * The mind map also aims to cluster a number of examples along the lines of the objective & priorities identified that have been suggested in response to the survey that seem to provide sufficient detail to allow for an evaluation of whether or not the proposed example is consistent with ICANN’s mission. Note that this evaluation will still need to take place.
You are encouraged to provide your feedback on the proposed regrouping of objectives/priorities as well as the clustering of examples ahead of the next meeting of the CCWG which has been scheduled for Thursday 10 August at 14.00 UTC.
Best regards,
Marika
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