Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] [Ext] Re: REMINDER Re: Please participate - survey re. whether ICANN Org should be able to apply for funds

Please note that as communicated in my email that the survey was opened until 22.00 UTC yesterday and subsequently closed again. Best regards, Marika On 8/24/17, 07:23, "喬敬" <chiao@brandma.co> wrote: the survey page says it's closed now.... On 8/24/17, Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com> wrote: > Yes, keep it open Marika! > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 10:43 PM, Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> > wrote: > >> Not having seen any immediate objections, I’ve gone ahead and re-opened >> the survey. Please submit your responses by 22.00 UTC at the latest. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Marika >> >> >> >> *From: *<ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Carolina >> Caeiro <carolina@lacnic.net> >> *Date: *Wednesday, August 23, 2017 at 14:24 >> *To: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> >> *Subject: *Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER Re: Please participate - >> survey re. whether ICANN Org should be able to apply for funds >> >> >> >> Dear all, >> >> Are there any problems with re-opening the survey for a couple extra >> hours, say 10:00PM UTC? I was awaiting for some feedback and missed the >> deadline for some 20 minutes. I think this should still give us >> sufficient >> time for review ahead of tomorrow's meeting and some other group members >> might be in a similar situation? >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Carolina >> >> >> >> El 23/8/17 a las 15:14, Marika Konings escribió: >> >> Please note that this poll has now been closed. You are encouraged to >> review the results ahead of tomorrow’s meeting here: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.surveymonkey.com_re... >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.surveymonkey.com_re...>. >> >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> >> Marika >> >> >> >> *From: *<ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> >> <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Marika Konings >> <marika.konings@icann.org> <marika.konings@icann.org> >> *Date: *Monday, August 21, 2017 at 12:03 >> *To: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> >> <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> >> *Subject: *[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER Re: Please participate - >> survey re. whether ICANN Org should be able to apply for funds >> >> >> >> Reminder – please participate in the poll if you have not done so yet. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> >> Marika >> >> >> >> *From: *<ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> >> <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Marika Konings >> <marika.konings@icann.org> <marika.konings@icann.org> >> *Date: *Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 06:12 >> *To: *Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> >> <jrobinson@afilias.info>, >> 'Seun Ojedeji' <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>, "Xavier >> J. Calvez" <xavier.calvez@icann.org> <xavier.calvez@icann.org> >> *Cc: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> >> <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> >> *Subject: *[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Please participate - survey re. whether >> ICANN Org should be able to apply for funds >> >> >> >> Jonathan, thank you for your suggestion and others for chiming in. In >> consultation with the leadership team, staff has put together a short >> survey to obtain CCWG input on the questions you have outlined below >> which >> will hopefully help inform the CCWG deliberations on this topic. To >> participate in the survey, please go to https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.surveymonkey.com_&d... >> r/HRRV93W[surveymonkey.com] >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.surveymonkey.com_r_...>. >> >> >> >> >> You are requested to provide your input by Wednesday 23 August at 18.00 >> UTC at the latest. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Marika >> >> >> >> *From: *<ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> >> <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jonathan Robinson >> <jrobinson@afilias.info> <jrobinson@afilias.info> >> *Organization: *Afilias >> *Reply-To: *Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> >> <jrobinson@afilias.info> >> *Date: *Friday, August 11, 2017 at 03:11 >> *To: *'Seun Ojedeji' <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>, >> "Xavier J. Calvez" <xavier.calvez@icann.org> <xavier.calvez@icann.org> >> *Cc: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> >> <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> >> *Subject: *Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Notes & action items from today's >> CCWG-AP meeting >> >> >> >> All, >> >> >> >> A couple of thoughts on this topic. >> >> >> >> On the subject of whether or not ICANN should have a 12 month operating >> expense reserve in place. >> >> Agreed that it seems to be common practice in the not for profit sector. >> >> Whether or not it should be the case for ICANN is an interesting >> question, >> but agreed, not one for this CWG. >> >> >> >> In any event, Xavier has clarified that the current policy is that the >> level of operating reserve should be 12 months. >> >> My understanding of the question for this group is not whether or not we >> would sanction the (auction fund) money being used to top up the >> reserves. >> >> But rather, whether or not we would like to see rules in place that >> sanction ICANN (the organisation) applying for auction funds. >> >> >> >> In evaluating that question of ICANN the organisation as a prospective >> applicant, a use or test case for that consideration is ICANN applying >> (under the same rules as anyone else) for auction funds to top up the >> ICANN >> reserve funds. >> >> >> >> My personal view is that ICANN should be demonstrating a commitment to >> fulfilling its current policy (to have in place a 12 month reserve) by >> budgeting an operating surplus to build that reserve. >> >> In addition (independently of this CWG), ICANN should review its current >> policy on reserve funds. >> >> If these two criteria were met, it would make me personaly much more >> sympathetic to potentially topping up reserve funds (to some extent) with >> auction funds. >> >> >> >> At the risk of being repetitive, it seems to me that the question for >> this >> CWG remains: >> >> - Whether or not ICANN the Organisation should be permitted to apply >> for funds? >> and >> - If so, what constraints should be place on this (use of funds, >> quantum etc)? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> >> *From:* Seun Ojedeji [mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com >> <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>] >> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 7:18 AM >> *To:* Xavier J. Calvez <xavier.calvez@icann.org> >> <xavier.calvez@icann.org> >> *Cc:* ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Notes & action items from today's >> CCWG-AP meeting >> >> >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> Xavier is right about reserve that covers operational expenses for >> minimum >> is say 12 month being normal practice. Some even do it for more; some >> RIRs >> have way above 1 year already while others are working towards same. >> However ofcourse none can match the fat figures of ICANN budget. ;-) >> >> >> >> However I don't think auction proceeds in this context can be referred to >> as surplus that can get ploughed back to achieve reserve target set by >> ICANN management NOR do I think it is a target/goal that this group >> should >> try to achieve. >> >> >> >> I for will suggest that we should consider mechanisms that allow some >> community projects that ICANN normally fund in their budget to be >> eligible, >> which if approved (based on the process) may then result to more >> surpluses >> to ICANN and they(Board) can decide to put that to reserve. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Sent from my mobile >> Kindly excuse brevity and typos >> >> >> >> On Aug 10, 2017 10:26 PM, "Xavier J. Calvez" <xavier.calvez@icann.org> >> wrote: >> >> All, >> >> I apologize if I did not make the following clear: ICANN’s current policy >> is to have in place a reserve fund equivalent to at minimum 12 months of >> operating expenses. Refer to ICANN’s Investment Policy, see at >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources... >> policy-2014-07-30-en[icann.org] >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources...>, >> see the paragraph “Size of Funds”, copied below). >> >> >> >> “The Reserve Fund shall contain any amounts not contained in the >> Operating >> Fund. Any surplus funds will be used to build up the Reserve Fund to a >> balance sufficient to cover an emergency requirement. The Reserve Fund is >> expected to reach and maintain a level of funds to maintain a minimum of >> 12 >> months of expected expenditures.“ >> >> >> >> I indicated that this level of a reserve fund is the commonly used in >> non-profit organizations. >> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> >> >> Xavier >> >> >> >> Xavier Calvez >> >> ICANN – SVP & CFO >> >> 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 >> >> Los Angeles, CA 90094 >> >> Phone: 310-301-5838 <(310)%20301-5838> >> >> Mobile: 805-312-0052 <(805)%20312-0052> >> >> Fax: 310-957-2348 <(310)%20957-2348> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *<ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Alan >> Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> >> *Date: *Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 1:41 PM >> *To: *Dietmar Stefitz <djs@bemarnet.es>, Michael Karanicolas < >> mkaranicolas@gmail.com>, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> >> *Cc: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> >> *Subject: *Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Notes & action items from today's >> CCWG-AP meeting >> >> >> >> To be clear, I don't think anyone on the call suggested we build up the >> reserve to a 12 or 24 month level of current budget. Xavier said that 1 >> year was a typical norm for non-profits, but in my opinion, there is no >> need for that, as in the case of emergency, costs could be ramped down >> quickly. >> >> I vaguely recall that the level that we were targeting (before the drain >> from the CCWG-Acct expenses) was something like $80m. So even if we >> contributed enough to get back to that level, it would be perhaps $40m. >> >> But the issue in my mind is not how much, but if. >> >> Alan >> >> At 10/08/2017 03:28 PM, Dietmar Stefitz wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Erika and all, >> >> I have been very astonished to hear the proposal to use the Auction Money >> in filling up the reserve account of ICANN. >> Filling up for 12 month reserve or 24 month reserve, if we have to take >> 24 >> month, there will not be much left to disburse to other projects. >> >> I thought that the call from Xavier has been to explain specially the >> Investment of the fund at this moment, for which I can only congratulate. >> A 1% return on a super save investment is not bad, and it should be made >> like this in the future. >> >> I would absolutely be against a filling up of the reserve fund from the >> auction proceeds, at least as a decision from this group. >> Or did I misunderstand something? >> >> Dietmar Stefitz >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thursday, August 10, 2017, 8:05:56 PM, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *MK> Hi Kavouss, MK> Am I missing something - or are you suggesting that >> the CCWG should MK> only determine whether or not money be fed into >> ICANN's >> reserve MK> account, without also indicating what proportion should be >> used >> to MK> that effect? MK> If so - I don't see how the CCWG could consider >> anything beyond that MK> simple yes/no question, as we'd have no >> indication >> how much money we MK> would have leftover to work with, once the reserve >> is >> replenished. MK> Decisions about allocation priorities can't really be >> made >> unless we MK> also look at how the pie should be portioned out, right? >> MK> >> Michael Karanicolas MK> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Kavouss Arasteh >> MK> <* kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *> wrote: >> Dear Erika, Dear All, >> Today during the last 15 mints of >> the call I tried to draw your attention to >> allow me to intervene on >> the >> views expressed by Alan reading the Reserve >> account. >> If I have well >> understood his statement he wanted that CCWG discuss the >> level of >> ICANN >> reserve account which was announced by Xavier to be >> equivalent to one >> year budget as objective. As Xavier mentioned this level >> has not been >> reached. >> Alan’s view that CCWG discuss the level of ICANN reserve >> account is outside* >> * >> the mandate of CCWG. We may just decide whether or not that account >> be fed* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * >> by using Auction money but decision on the appropriate level of the >> reserve >> account is totally outside or mandate as it is a decision to >> be >> made by the >> Board and not by this group >> Regards >> Kavouss >> On >> Thu, >> Aug 10, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Joke Braeken <*joke.braeken@icann.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *> >> wrote: >>> Dear All, >>> Please find below the notes and action >> items from today’s CCWG-AP meeting.* >> >> >> >> * >>> Best regards,* >> >> >> >> * >>> Joke Braeken* >> >> >> >> * >>> Notes CCWG – AP Meeting 10 August 2017:* >> >> >> >> * >>> These high-level notes are designed to help the CCWG navigate >> through the* >> >> >> * >>> content of the call and are not meant as a substitute for the >> transcript >>> and/or recording. The MP3, transcript, and chat are >> provided >> separately and >>> are posted on the wiki at: * >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_D... >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_D...> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *. >>> Roll Call >>> Please state your name for transcription purposes >> and >> keep microphones on >>> mute when not speaking. >>> Attendance will be >> taken from the AdobeConnect room. >>> Welcome – DOI* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * >>> Overview from Xavier Calvez on investment management >>> The >> intention of this presentation is >>> to allow the group to think on the >> issue of investment, >>> to understand ICANN's practice, and to answer >> any >> questions that might be >>> raised. >>> It helps to inform the discussion >> on the ROI of the fund; It includes an >>> overview of how the auction >> proceeds are currently managed, which might lead >>> to how they might be >> managed in the future. >>> Important to note: >>> only conservative >> investment policies are being used >>> the investment strategy will be >> designed in support of the objectives >>> An overview of some >> illustrative >> investment scenarios was provided, >>> followed by Q&A. >>> Parameters >> that >> need to be considered: >>> amount of money >>> horizon >>> level of risk >> (which is not correlated to the horizon) >>> Financial information is >> regularly provided during the quarterly >>> stakeholder calls. >>> >> (amount >> from latest update - Q3 data of FY17. *>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_&d=DwIFaQ... >> quarterlyreports[icann.org] >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_quarterly...> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *) >>> Reserve Fund: 64 million >>> New gTLD unspent application fees: >> 128 >> million >>> Auction proceeds: 233 million >>> Annual budget of ICANN. >> FY18 >> budget expenses 142 million USD. >>> Regarding replenishing the reserve >> fund: appropriate procedures need to be >>> taken, appropriate approvals >> and decisions need to be in place for it to be >>> legal. >>> This is >> however a moral question as well. The charter does include this >>> >> question: “To what extent (and, if so, how) could ICANN, the >> Organization >> or* >> * >>> a constituent part thereof, be the beneficiary of some of the >> auction funds†* >> >> * >>> The group needs to discuss this at a later stage.* >> >> >> >> * >>> Next meeting* >> >> >> >> * >>> next CCWG-AP meeting is scheduled for Thursday 24 August at 14.00 >> UTC* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * >>> = = = = >>> Action item #1: >>> CCWG to review the slides presented >> by Xavier (published on *>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_&d=... >> display/CWGONGAP/2017-08-10+CCWG+New+gTLD+Auction+ >> Proceeds+call[community.icann.org] >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> >> *) >>> and to share any further questions for Xavier on the group’s >> mailing list.* >> >> >> >> * >>> Action item #2:* >> >> * >>> Per the discussion during the CCWG-AP meeting on 27 July 2017, the* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * >>> attached mind map was developed, which aims to regroup the >> objectives based >>> on the survey results as well as the subsequent >> discussions. The CCWG is >>> encouraged to continue to provide feedback >> on >> the proposed regrouping of >>> objectives/priorities, as well as the >> clustering of examples ahead of the >>> next meeting, scheduled for 24 >> August at 14 UTC. >>> Action item #3: >>> CCWG to review responses to >> charter question #4 and to continue the >>> discussion on the mailing >> list. >> >>> (see *https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.surveymonkey.com_re... >> surveymonkey.com] >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.surveymonkey.com_re...> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * ) >>> = = = = >>> Joke Braeken >>> ccNSO Policy Advisor *>>> >> joke.braeken@icann.org <joke.braeken@icann.org> >> >> >> >> *>>> Follow @ccNSO on Twitter: *https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ccNSO-5Btwi... >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ccNSO&d=DwM...> >> >> *>>> Follow the ccNSO on Facebook: *https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_&d=DwI... >> ccnso/[facebook.com] >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_ccnso_...> >> >> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ccnso.icann.org-5Bccnso.... >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ccnso.icann.org_&d=DwMFA...> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list *>>> Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org >> <Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> >> >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds >> >> >> >> >> >> *>> _______________________________________________ >> >> Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list *>> Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org >> <Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> >> >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds >> >> >> *MK> _______________________________________________ MK> >> Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list *MK> Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org >> <Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> >> MK> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *-- Saludos, Dietmar Content-Type: text/plain; >> charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: >> inline X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: >> 1;MWHPR03MB2718;27:YWDqnEPXx/CS7utzz6td9Qa3koj9je2Sjv9LFnursD0J2VA30AdYQS9BENOC1oqUgmoT+mzlFx7ydYsubIRVesT4Y1jhb3iYxs4FdjVwmhiKOJ9o59lZBh7cDwAsDaB/ >> X-Microsoft-Antispam-Mailbox-Delivery: >> ex:0;auth:0;dest:I;ENG:(400001000128)(400125000095)(20160514016)(750103)(520002050)(400001001223)(400125100095)(61617095)(400001002128)(400125200095); >> _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds >> mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org >> <Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds >> <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds>* >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list >> Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list >> >> Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org >> >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds >> >> >> >> -- >> Carolina Caeiro >> >> *Coordinadora de Proyectos de Desarrollo* >> Coordinator of Development Projects >> >> *www.lacnic.net[lacnic.net] >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.lacnic.net&d=DwMDaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=o7RmJCwXVgbzxpnjhadXFvFU9MXfWgIEKEx7RKKQt7c&s=PVkvf8owDabNeVxQOitYmtIVe2X_nDxWaySYhlqqj6Y&e=>* >> * Latin American and Caribbean Internet Addresses Registry* >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list >> Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds >> > -- Ching Chiao Founder & CEO Brandma Internet Group 中域国际集团 www.brandma.com +886.918.211372 || +86.135.2018.7032 || +1.908.4990050 Beijing . 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