回复: RE: 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?
我昨晚传给你的收到了吗?纳入总的VARIANTs TABLE了吗? 发送自我的三星设备 -------- 原始邮件 -------- 发件人: 齐超 <qichao@cnnic.cn> 日期: 2015-04-18 12:31 (GMT+08:00) 收件人: Jonathan Shea <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk> 抄送: Zhang Zhoucai <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, 'JOEZHANG43' <joezhang43@hotmail.com>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn>, ChineseGP@icann.org 主题: Re: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 各位,好, 我整理了一下Jonathan发过来的文字, 在APPFORM里有申请加入的新字以及简繁体对应关系. 这部分大都在澎湖会议时被提出, 有一些已经被采纳被写进了CGP的字表里(但是像"㩜U+3A5C"并不在MSR里). 剩下有一些是当时会议被标记未决或未通过的但是包括在IICore里的, 我以黄色背景作了标记 . 其变体关系定义还请各位专家参考. 谢谢各位. -----原始邮件----- 发件人:"Jonathan Shea" <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk> 发送时间:2015-04-17 18:44:35 (星期五) 收件人: "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, "'齐超'" <qichao@cnnic.cn>, 'JOEZHANG43' <joezhang43@hotmail.com>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn> 抄送: "ChineseGP@icann.org" <ChineseGP@icann.org> 主题: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 附上的zip file有21個字的variant考查。下星期一我會提供另外44個字的資料。 Regards, Jonathan Shea From:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Zhang Zhoucai Sent: Friday, 17 April 2015 3:07 PM To: '齐超'; 'JOEZHANG43'; 'yanzhiwei'; 'wangwei' Cc:ChineseGP@icann.org Subject: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 齐超: 对不起,上午外出。 粗略看一下,有许多是日文略字。 我手头一时找不到原有的电子档,建议你: 1. 参考Jonathan的资料(他说有的已经考察过) 2. 用程序扫描J-variant table。 把结果传给我看看。我现在出去,晚上可以再浏览校对。 张 发件人:齐超 [mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn] 发送时间: 2015年4月17日 10:31 收件人: JOEZHANG43; Joe Zhang; yanzhiwei; wangwei 抄送:ChineseGP@icann.org 主题: Re: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 张老师,王伟, 根据昨天王伟发出的最终字表,查询CDNC中已有的variant定义,形成了一个MSS最小化的字表variant。 MSS中有 12334 个字在 CDNC中,剩下的197个(12534 - 12334)个还没有variant定义,如下(也可以在excel中筛选出)。 这些字不知道张老师有没有现成的variant集 ? 如果 case by case 确认的还是很费时的。 | Unicode | Hanzi | | 34E4 | 㓤 | | 3577 | 㕷 | | 35A1 | 㖡 | | 35AD | 㖭 | | 35BF | 㖿 | | 35CE | 㗎 | | 35F3 | 㗳 | | 35FE | 㗾 | | 3960 | 㥠 | | 39F8 | 㧸 | | 39FE | 㧾 | | 3A18 | 㨘 | | 3A52 | 㩒 | | 3A67 | 㩧 | | 3B39 | 㬹 | | 3DE7 | 㷧 | | 3DEB | 㷫 | | 3E74 | 㹴 | | 3ED0 | 㻐 | | 4065 | 䁥 | | 406A | 䁪 | | 40BB | 䂻 | | 40DF | 䃟 | | 4137 | 䄷 | | 44EA | 䓪 | | 4606 | 䘆 | | 47F4 | 䟴 | | 48B5 | 䢵 | | 48BC | 䢼 | | 48C5 | 䣅 | | 48D3 | 䣓 | | 49D1 | 䧑 | | 4A12 | 䨒 | | 4AB8 | 䪸 | | 4C7D | 䱽 | | 4C81 | 䲁 | | 4C85 | 䲅 | | 4CB3 | 䲳 | | 4D08 | 䴈 | | 4E55 | 乕 | | 4EEE | 仮 | | 4FAD | 侭 | | 51B4 | 冴 | | 51E6 | 処 | | 5227 | 刧 | | 524F | 剏 | | 5271 | 剱 | | 5368 | 卨 | | 5605 | 嘅 | | 5689 | 嚉 | | 56A2 | 嚢 | | 576E | 坮 | | 57DE | 埞 | | 5817 | 堗 | | 5841 | 塁 | | 58CC | 壌 | | 5BFE | 対 | | 5C02 | 専 | | 5CC0 | 峀 | | 5D5C | 嵜 | | 5E3F | 帿 | | 5F10 | 弐 | | 6060 | 恠 | | 60A9 | 悩 | | 60E3 | 惣 | | 61F4 | 懴 | | 62A6 | 抦 | | 6335 | 挵 | | 633F | 挿 | | 637F | 捿 | | 63BB | 掻 | | 6442 | 摂 | | 656D | 敭 | | 65FF | 旿 | | 663B | 昻 | | 663F | 昿 | | 6667 | 晧 | | 66FD | 曽 | | 681E | 栞 | | 685C | 桜 | | 685F | 桟 | | 68C5 | 棅 | | 6A53 | 橓 | | 6AAA | 檪 | | 6C17 | 気 | | 6D9C | 涜 | | 6E13 | 渓 | | 6E7A | 湺 | | 6E8C | 溌 | | 6EDD | 滝 | | 701E | 瀞 | | 7114 | 焔 | | 713C | 焼 | | 7155 | 煕 | | 7200 | 爀 | | 72A0 | 犠 | | 731F | 猟 | | 732F | 猯 | | 734F | 獏 | | 7363 | 獣 | | 73E1 | 珡 | | 73E4 | 珤 | | 7460 | 瑠 | | 74A2 | 璢 | | 74C8 | 瓈 | | 750E | 甎 | | 7534 | 甴 | | 754A | 畊 | | 7573 | 畳 | | 757A | 畺 | | 758E | 疎 | | 75E9 | 痩 | | 764E | 癎 | | 767A | 発 | | 76CC | 盌 | | 7807 | 砇 | | 783F | 砿 | | 784F | 硏 | | 7A36 | 稶 | | 7A4F | 穏 | | 7A63 | 穣 | | 7AC3 | 竃 | | 7AD7 | 竗 | | 7ADA | 竚 | | 7B6F | 筯 | | 7B86 | 箆 | | 7B92 | 箒 | | 7C14 | 簔 | | 7C4F | 籏 | | 7C83 | 粃 | | 7D9A | 続 | | 7DDC | 緜 | | 7E4A | 繊 | | 7E4B | 繋 | | 8117 | 脗 | | 8133 | 脳 | | 81D3 | 臓 | | 8217 | 舗 | | 8262 | 艢 | | 839F | 莟 | | 83B5 | 莵 | | 8420 | 萠 | | 84DA | 蓚 | | 8597 | 薗 | | 86CD | 蛍 | | 874B | 蝋 | | 877F | 蝿 | | 88B5 | 袵 | | 894D | 襍 | | 89A9 | 覩 | | 8A33 | 訳 | | 8AAD | 読 | | 8B0C | 謌 | | 8B72 | 譲 | | 8E99 | 躙 | | 8EE2 | 転 | | 8F0C | 輌 | | 8F19 | 輙 | | 8F27 | 輧 | | 8FBA | 辺 | | 9039 | 逹 | | 9197 | 醗 | | 91A4 | 醤 | | 91B8 | 醸 | | 91C8 | 釈 | | 9244 | 鉄 | | 9271 | 鉱 | | 932C | 錬 | | 9421 | 鐡 | | 945A | 鑚 | | 9665 | 陥 | | 967A | 険 | | 96B2 | 隲 | | 974D | 靍 | | 9771 | 靱 | | 982C | 頬 | | 984B | 顋 | | 98C7 | 飇 | | 98E1 | 飡 | | 98EE | 飮 | | 994D | 饍 | | 99C5 | 駅 | | 9A12 | 騒 | | 9A13 | 験 | | 9A28 | 騨 | | 9C04 | 鰄 | | 9C2E | 鰮 | | 9C76 | 鱶 | | 9D0E | 鴎 | | 9D2C | 鴬 | | 9D44 | 鵄 | | 9D8F | 鶏 | | 9DC0 | 鷀 | | 9E78 | 鹸 | | 9EB9 | 麹 | | 9EBA | 麺 | | 9F62 | 齢 | 齐超 via foxmail 发件人: 王伟 发送时间: 2015年4月16日(星期四) 下午11:38 收件人: KIM Kyongsok 抄送: hotta@jprs.co.jp; Dongman Lee; Joe Zhang; Wang Wei; Kenny Huang; Yuri; Yoshiro YONEYA; Zhang Zhoucai; ; Zhiwei Yan; KoreanGP@icann.org; ChineseGP@icann.org; JapaneseGP@icann.org; ? ??; 조성덕; 신상현 主题: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? Dear All After the discussion in today‘s CGP meeting, Prof. ZHANG and Mr. QI Chao has produced a Minimum Shared Set (MSS) for C, J and K. The MSS is consisted of the following code point subset: A: IICore Base (9810, all fall in MSR) B: Historically Registered Hanzi under .CN/TW/HK (7000/5292/4191, all fall in MSR) C: PRC National Normalized Hanzi along with their traditional variants (8105/3489, some out of MSR) MSS=A+B+C-D-E D: code points in C, but not in MSR E: Stroke or Radicals (31) LIDU?(5) Out of BMP(62) finally, we got 12531 valid code points aggregate a Minimum Shared Set, based on which C, J and K could define their own variants, or adopt others variants. After all three GPs finish the variants generation and coordinaiton on MSS, each GP still has the chance to add independent code points (with no variants) into MSS seperately, to from its own final repertoire. STEP1: MSS generated and accepted by three GPs, a mininum code points set shared by all of us. STEP2: variants generated and coordinated based on MSS STEP3: Add each GP's own independent and unrelated code points, form the final formal repertoire. Does this process work for you? please feel free to give your comments. Regards WANG Wei PS: special thanks for the hardwork of Mr. QI Chao -----原始邮件----- 发件人: "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0@gmail.com> 发送时间: 2015年4月16日 星期四 收件人: "hotta@jprs.co.jp" <hotta@jprs.co.jp> 抄送: "Wang Wei" <wangwei@cnic.cn>, "Dongman Lee" <dlee@cs.kaist.ac.kr>, "Joe Zhang" <joezhang43@hotmail.com>, "Wang Wei" <wangwei@cnnic.cn>, "Kenny Huang" <huangksh@gmail.com>, Yuri <takamatsu@jprs.co.jp>, "Yoshiro YONEYA" <yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp>, "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, "<qichao@cnnic.cn>" <qichao@cnnic.cn>, "Zhiwei Yan" <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, "KoreanGP@icann.org" <KoreanGP@icann.org>, "ChineseGP@icann.org" <ChineseGP@icann.org>, "JapaneseGP@icann.org" <JapaneseGP@icann.org>, "? ??" <mjkim@kisa.or.kr>, "조성덕" <isanjo@empas.com>, "신상현" <partizan21@naver.com>, "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0@gmail.com> 主题: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? Dear everybody: KLGP is trying to prepare a repertoire and a variant table. I would like to get the (or almost?) latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables. Thanks very much in advance. -- 김경석 KIM, Kyongsok
张老师, 因为如下原因: 1. 您写的有些(?)的部分; 2. Jonathan 发过来部分文字的简繁体标注跟您的标示不一致; 3. Jonathan还有部分文字没有发过来。 所以现在没有将这些未在CDNC字表里的文字(200个左右)合入 总的表(10000字+)。 希望一个确定的版本再合并,因为如果某个字的变体字很多的话,会对原有的cdnc的结构产生很多变化(比如某个字的变体有N个, 则需要修改1+N行)。 -----原始邮件----- 发件人:ZhangJoe <joezhang43@hotmail.com> 发送时间:2015-04-18 15:46:37 (星期六) 收件人: "齐超" <qichao@cnnic.cn>, "Jonathan Shea" <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk> 抄送: "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn>, "ChineseGP@icann.org" <ChineseGP@icann.org> 主题: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 我昨晚传给你的收到了吗?纳入总的VARIANTs TABLE了吗? 发送自我的三星设备 -------- 原始邮件 -------- 发件人: 齐超 <qichao@cnnic.cn> 日期: 2015-04-18 12:31 (GMT+08:00) 收件人: Jonathan Shea <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk> 抄送: Zhang Zhoucai <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, 'JOEZHANG43' <joezhang43@hotmail.com>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn>, ChineseGP@icann.org 主题: Re: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 各位,好, 我整理了一下Jonathan发过来的文字, 在APPFORM里有申请加入的新字以及简繁体对应关系. 这部分大都在澎湖会议时被提出, 有一些已经被采纳被写进了CGP的字表里(但是像"㩜U+3A5C"并不在MSR里). 剩下有一些是当时会议被标记未决或未通过的但是包括在IICore里的, 我以黄色背景作了标记 . 其变体关系定义还请各位专家参考. 谢谢各位. -----原始邮件----- 发件人:"Jonathan Shea" <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk> 发送时间:2015-04-17 18:44:35 (星期五) 收件人: "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, "'齐超'" <qichao@cnnic.cn>, 'JOEZHANG43' <joezhang43@hotmail.com>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn> 抄送: "ChineseGP@icann.org" <ChineseGP@icann.org> 主题: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 附上的zip file有21個字的variant考查。下星期一我會提供另外44個字的資料。 Regards, Jonathan Shea From:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Zhang Zhoucai Sent: Friday, 17 April 2015 3:07 PM To: '齐超'; 'JOEZHANG43'; 'yanzhiwei'; 'wangwei' Cc:ChineseGP@icann.org Subject: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 齐超: 对不起,上午外出。 粗略看一下,有许多是日文略字。 我手头一时找不到原有的电子档,建议你: 1. 参考Jonathan的资料(他说有的已经考察过) 2. 用程序扫描J-variant table。 把结果传给我看看。我现在出去,晚上可以再浏览校对。 张 发件人:齐超 [mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn] 发送时间: 2015年4月17日 10:31 收件人: JOEZHANG43; Joe Zhang; yanzhiwei; wangwei 抄送:ChineseGP@icann.org 主题: Re: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 张老师,王伟, 根据昨天王伟发出的最终字表,查询CDNC中已有的variant定义,形成了一个MSS最小化的字表variant。 MSS中有 12334 个字在 CDNC中,剩下的197个(12534 - 12334)个还没有variant定义,如下(也可以在excel中筛选出)。 这些字不知道张老师有没有现成的variant集 ? 如果 case by case 确认的还是很费时的。 | Unicode | Hanzi | | 34E4 | 㓤 | | 3577 | 㕷 | | 35A1 | 㖡 | | 35AD | 㖭 | | 35BF | 㖿 | | 35CE | 㗎 | | 35F3 | 㗳 | | 35FE | 㗾 | | 3960 | 㥠 | | 39F8 | 㧸 | | 39FE | 㧾 | | 3A18 | 㨘 | | 3A52 | 㩒 | | 3A67 | 㩧 | | 3B39 | 㬹 | | 3DE7 | 㷧 | | 3DEB | 㷫 | | 3E74 | 㹴 | | 3ED0 | 㻐 | | 4065 | 䁥 | | 406A | 䁪 | | 40BB | 䂻 | | 40DF | 䃟 | | 4137 | 䄷 | | 44EA | 䓪 | | 4606 | 䘆 | | 47F4 | 䟴 | | 48B5 | 䢵 | | 48BC | 䢼 | | 48C5 | 䣅 | | 48D3 | 䣓 | | 49D1 | 䧑 | | 4A12 | 䨒 | | 4AB8 | 䪸 | | 4C7D | 䱽 | | 4C81 | 䲁 | | 4C85 | 䲅 | | 4CB3 | 䲳 | | 4D08 | 䴈 | | 4E55 | 乕 | | 4EEE | 仮 | | 4FAD | 侭 | | 51B4 | 冴 | | 51E6 | 処 | | 5227 | 刧 | | 524F | 剏 | | 5271 | 剱 | | 5368 | 卨 | | 5605 | 嘅 | | 5689 | 嚉 | | 56A2 | 嚢 | | 576E | 坮 | | 57DE | 埞 | | 5817 | 堗 | | 5841 | 塁 | | 58CC | 壌 | | 5BFE | 対 | | 5C02 | 専 | | 5CC0 | 峀 | | 5D5C | 嵜 | | 5E3F | 帿 | | 5F10 | 弐 | | 6060 | 恠 | | 60A9 | 悩 | | 60E3 | 惣 | | 61F4 | 懴 | | 62A6 | 抦 | | 6335 | 挵 | | 633F | 挿 | | 637F | 捿 | | 63BB | 掻 | | 6442 | 摂 | | 656D | 敭 | | 65FF | 旿 | | 663B | 昻 | | 663F | 昿 | | 6667 | 晧 | | 66FD | 曽 | | 681E | 栞 | | 685C | 桜 | | 685F | 桟 | | 68C5 | 棅 | | 6A53 | 橓 | | 6AAA | 檪 | | 6C17 | 気 | | 6D9C | 涜 | | 6E13 | 渓 | | 6E7A | 湺 | | 6E8C | 溌 | | 6EDD | 滝 | | 701E | 瀞 | | 7114 | 焔 | | 713C | 焼 | | 7155 | 煕 | | 7200 | 爀 | | 72A0 | 犠 | | 731F | 猟 | | 732F | 猯 | | 734F | 獏 | | 7363 | 獣 | | 73E1 | 珡 | | 73E4 | 珤 | | 7460 | 瑠 | | 74A2 | 璢 | | 74C8 | 瓈 | | 750E | 甎 | | 7534 | 甴 | | 754A | 畊 | | 7573 | 畳 | | 757A | 畺 | | 758E | 疎 | | 75E9 | 痩 | | 764E | 癎 | | 767A | 発 | | 76CC | 盌 | | 7807 | 砇 | | 783F | 砿 | | 784F | 硏 | | 7A36 | 稶 | | 7A4F | 穏 | | 7A63 | 穣 | | 7AC3 | 竃 | | 7AD7 | 竗 | | 7ADA | 竚 | | 7B6F | 筯 | | 7B86 | 箆 | | 7B92 | 箒 | | 7C14 | 簔 | | 7C4F | 籏 | | 7C83 | 粃 | | 7D9A | 続 | | 7DDC | 緜 | | 7E4A | 繊 | | 7E4B | 繋 | | 8117 | 脗 | | 8133 | 脳 | | 81D3 | 臓 | | 8217 | 舗 | | 8262 | 艢 | | 839F | 莟 | | 83B5 | 莵 | | 8420 | 萠 | | 84DA | 蓚 | | 8597 | 薗 | | 86CD | 蛍 | | 874B | 蝋 | | 877F | 蝿 | | 88B5 | 袵 | | 894D | 襍 | | 89A9 | 覩 | | 8A33 | 訳 | | 8AAD | 読 | | 8B0C | 謌 | | 8B72 | 譲 | | 8E99 | 躙 | | 8EE2 | 転 | | 8F0C | 輌 | | 8F19 | 輙 | | 8F27 | 輧 | | 8FBA | 辺 | | 9039 | 逹 | | 9197 | 醗 | | 91A4 | 醤 | | 91B8 | 醸 | | 91C8 | 釈 | | 9244 | 鉄 | | 9271 | 鉱 | | 932C | 錬 | | 9421 | 鐡 | | 945A | 鑚 | | 9665 | 陥 | | 967A | 険 | | 96B2 | 隲 | | 974D | 靍 | | 9771 | 靱 | | 982C | 頬 | | 984B | 顋 | | 98C7 | 飇 | | 98E1 | 飡 | | 98EE | 飮 | | 994D | 饍 | | 99C5 | 駅 | | 9A12 | 騒 | | 9A13 | 験 | | 9A28 | 騨 | | 9C04 | 鰄 | | 9C2E | 鰮 | | 9C76 | 鱶 | | 9D0E | 鴎 | | 9D2C | 鴬 | | 9D44 | 鵄 | | 9D8F | 鶏 | | 9DC0 | 鷀 | | 9E78 | 鹸 | | 9EB9 | 麹 | | 9EBA | 麺 | | 9F62 | 齢 | 齐超 via foxmail 发件人: 王伟 发送时间: 2015年4月16日(星期四) 下午11:38 收件人: KIM Kyongsok 抄送: hotta@jprs.co.jp; Dongman Lee; Joe Zhang; Wang Wei; Kenny Huang; Yuri; Yoshiro YONEYA; Zhang Zhoucai; ; Zhiwei Yan; KoreanGP@icann.org; ChineseGP@icann.org; JapaneseGP@icann.org; ? ??; 조성덕; 신상현 主题: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? Dear All After the discussion in today‘s CGP meeting, Prof. ZHANG and Mr. QI Chao has produced a Minimum Shared Set (MSS) for C, J and K. The MSS is consisted of the following code point subset: A: IICore Base (9810, all fall in MSR) B: Historically Registered Hanzi under .CN/TW/HK (7000/5292/4191, all fall in MSR) C: PRC National Normalized Hanzi along with their traditional variants (8105/3489, some out of MSR) MSS=A+B+C-D-E D: code points in C, but not in MSR E: Stroke or Radicals (31) LIDU?(5) Out of BMP(62) finally, we got 12531 valid code points aggregate a Minimum Shared Set, based on which C, J and K could define their own variants, or adopt others variants. After all three GPs finish the variants generation and coordinaiton on MSS, each GP still has the chance to add independent code points (with no variants) into MSS seperately, to from its own final repertoire. STEP1: MSS generated and accepted by three GPs, a mininum code points set shared by all of us. STEP2: variants generated and coordinated based on MSS STEP3: Add each GP's own independent and unrelated code points, form the final formal repertoire. Does this process work for you? please feel free to give your comments. Regards WANG Wei PS: special thanks for the hardwork of Mr. QI Chao -----原始邮件----- 发件人: "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0@gmail.com> 发送时间: 2015年4月16日 星期四 收件人: "hotta@jprs.co.jp" <hotta@jprs.co.jp> 抄送: "Wang Wei" <wangwei@cnic.cn>, "Dongman Lee" <dlee@cs.kaist.ac.kr>, "Joe Zhang" <joezhang43@hotmail.com>, "Wang Wei" <wangwei@cnnic.cn>, "Kenny Huang" <huangksh@gmail.com>, Yuri <takamatsu@jprs.co.jp>, "Yoshiro YONEYA" <yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp>, "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, "<qichao@cnnic.cn>" <qichao@cnnic.cn>, "Zhiwei Yan" <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, "KoreanGP@icann.org" <KoreanGP@icann.org>, "ChineseGP@icann.org" <ChineseGP@icann.org>, "JapaneseGP@icann.org" <JapaneseGP@icann.org>, "? ??" <mjkim@kisa.or.kr>, "조성덕" <isanjo@empas.com>, "신상현" <partizan21@naver.com>, "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0@gmail.com> 主题: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? Dear everybody: KLGP is trying to prepare a repertoire and a variant table. I would like to get the (or almost?) latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables. Thanks very much in advance. -- 김경석 KIM, Kyongsok
現附上zip file有另外44個字的variant考查。大部份和張老師提供的一致。 這個zip file很大,有14MB。如果你收不到,我會分幾個較少的zip file送來。 Regards, Jonathan Shea From: 齐超 [mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn] Sent: Sunday, 19 April 2015 12:30 AM To: ZhangJoe Cc: Jonathan Shea; Zhang Zhoucai; 'yanzhiwei'; 'wangwei'; ChineseGP@icann.org Subject: Re: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 张老师, 因为如下原因: 1. 您写的有些(?)的部分; 2. Jonathan 发过来部分文字的简繁体标注跟您的标示不一致; 3. Jonathan还有部分文字没有发过来。 所以现在没有将这些未在CDNC字表里的文字(200个左右)合入 总的表(10000字+)。 希望一个确定的版本再合并,因为如果某个字的变体字很多的话,会对原有的cdnc的结构产生很多变化(比如某个字的变体有N个, 则需要修改1+N行)。 -----原始邮件----- 发件人:ZhangJoe <joezhang43@hotmail.com<mailto:joezhang43@hotmail.com>> 发送时间:2015-04-18 15:46:37 (星期六) 收件人: "齐超" <qichao@cnnic.cn<mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn>>, "Jonathan Shea" <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk<mailto:jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk>> 抄送: "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn<mailto:joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn<mailto:yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn<mailto:wangwei@cnic.cn>>, "ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org>" <ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org>> 主题: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 我昨晚传给你的收到了吗?纳入总的VARIANTs TABLE了吗? 发送自我的三星设备 -------- 原始邮件 -------- 发件人: 齐超 <qichao@cnnic.cn<mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn>> 日期: 2015-04-18 12:31 (GMT+08:00) 收件人: Jonathan Shea <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk<mailto:jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk>> 抄送: Zhang Zhoucai <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn<mailto:joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>>, 'JOEZHANG43' <joezhang43@hotmail.com<mailto:joezhang43@hotmail.com>>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn<mailto:yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn<mailto:wangwei@cnic.cn>>, ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org> 主题: Re: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 各位,好, 我整理了一下Jonathan发过来的文字, 在APPFORM里有申请加入的新字以及简繁体对应关系. 这部分大都在澎湖会议时被提出, 有一些已经被采纳被写进了CGP的字表里(但是像"㩜U+3A5C"并不在MSR里). 剩下有一些是当时会议被标记未决或未通过的但是包括在IICore里的, 我以黄色背景作了标记 . 其变体关系定义还请各位专家参考. 谢谢各位. -----原始邮件----- 发件人:"Jonathan Shea" <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk<mailto:jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk>> 发送时间:2015-04-17 18:44:35 (星期五) 收件人: "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn<mailto:joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>>, "'齐超'" <qichao@cnnic.cn<mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn>>, 'JOEZHANG43' <joezhang43@hotmail.com<mailto:joezhang43@hotmail.com>>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn<mailto:yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn<mailto:wangwei@cnic.cn>> 抄送: "ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org>" <ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org>> 主题: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 附上的zip file有21個字的variant考查。下星期一我會提供另外44個字的資料。 Regards, Jonathan Shea From: chinesegp-bounces@icann.org<mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org<mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Zhang Zhoucai Sent: Friday, 17 April 2015 3:07 PM To: '齐超'; 'JOEZHANG43'; 'yanzhiwei'; 'wangwei' Cc: ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org> Subject: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 齐超: 对不起,上午外出。 粗略看一下,有许多是日文略字。 我手头一时找不到原有的电子档,建议你: 1. 参考Jonathan的资料(他说有的已经考察过) 2. 用程序扫描J-variant table。 把结果传给我看看。我现在出去,晚上可以再浏览校对。 张 发件人: 齐超 [mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn] 发送时间: 2015年4月17日 10:31 收件人: JOEZHANG43; Joe Zhang; yanzhiwei; wangwei 抄送: ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org> 主题: Re: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 张老师,王伟, 根据昨天王伟发出的最终字表,查询CDNC中已有的variant定义,形成了一个MSS最小化的字表variant。 MSS中有 12334 个字在 CDNC中,剩下的197个(12534 - 12334)个还没有variant定义,如下(也可以在excel中筛选出)。 这些字不知道张老师有没有现成的variant集 ? 如果 case by case 确认的还是很费时的。 Unicode Hanzi 34E4 㓤 3577 㕷 35A1 㖡 35AD 㖭 35BF 㖿 35CE 㗎 35F3 㗳 35FE 㗾 3960 㥠 39F8 㧸 39FE 㧾 3A18 㨘 3A52 㩒 3A67 㩧 3B39 㬹 3DE7 㷧 3DEB 㷫 3E74 㹴 3ED0 㻐 4065 䁥 406A 䁪 40BB 䂻 40DF 䃟 4137 䄷 44EA 䓪 4606 䘆 47F4 䟴 48B5 䢵 48BC 䢼 48C5 䣅 48D3 䣓 49D1 䧑 4A12 䨒 4AB8 䪸 4C7D 䱽 4C81 䲁 4C85 䲅 4CB3 䲳 4D08 䴈 4E55 乕 4EEE 仮 4FAD 侭 51B4 冴 51E6 処 5227 刧 524F 剏 5271 剱 5368 卨 5605 嘅 5689 嚉 56A2 嚢 576E 坮 57DE 埞 5817 堗 5841 塁 58CC 壌 5BFE 対 5C02 専 5CC0 峀 5D5C 嵜 5E3F 帿 5F10 弐 6060 恠 60A9 悩 60E3 惣 61F4 懴 62A6 抦 6335 挵 633F 挿 637F 捿 63BB 掻 6442 摂 656D 敭 65FF 旿 663B 昻 663F 昿 6667 晧 66FD 曽 681E 栞 685C 桜 685F 桟 68C5 棅 6A53 橓 6AAA 檪 6C17 気 6D9C 涜 6E13 渓 6E7A 湺 6E8C 溌 6EDD 滝 701E 瀞 7114 焔 713C 焼 7155 煕 7200 爀 72A0 犠 731F 猟 732F 猯 734F 獏 7363 獣 73E1 珡 73E4 珤 7460 瑠 74A2 璢 74C8 瓈 750E 甎 7534 甴 754A 畊 7573 畳 757A 畺 758E 疎 75E9 痩 764E 癎 767A 発 76CC 盌 7807 砇 783F 砿 784F 硏 7A36 稶 7A4F 穏 7A63 穣 7AC3 竃 7AD7 竗 7ADA 竚 7B6F 筯 7B86 箆 7B92 箒 7C14 簔 7C4F 籏 7C83 粃 7D9A 続 7DDC 緜 7E4A 繊 7E4B 繋 8117 脗 8133 脳 81D3 臓 8217 舗 8262 艢 839F 莟 83B5 莵 8420 萠 84DA 蓚 8597 薗 86CD 蛍 874B 蝋 877F 蝿 88B5 袵 894D 襍 89A9 覩 8A33 訳 8AAD 読 8B0C 謌 8B72 譲 8E99 躙 8EE2 転 8F0C 輌 8F19 輙 8F27 輧 8FBA 辺 9039 逹 9197 醗 91A4 醤 91B8 醸 91C8 釈 9244 鉄 9271 鉱 932C 錬 9421 鐡 945A 鑚 9665 陥 967A 険 96B2 隲 974D 靍 9771 靱 982C 頬 984B 顋 98C7 飇 98E1 飡 98EE 飮 994D 饍 99C5 駅 9A12 騒 9A13 験 9A28 騨 9C04 鰄 9C2E 鰮 9C76 鱶 9D0E 鴎 9D2C 鴬 9D44 鵄 9D8F 鶏 9DC0 鷀 9E78 鹸 9EB9 麹 9EBA 麺 9F62 齢 ________________________________ 齐超 via foxmail 发件人: 王伟<mailto:wangwei@cnic.cn> 发送时间: 2015年4月16日(星期四) 下午11:38 收件人: KIM Kyongsok<mailto:gimgs0@gmail.com> 抄送: hotta@jprs.co.jp<mailto:hotta@jprs.co.jp>; Dongman Lee<mailto:dlee@cs.kaist.ac.kr>; Joe Zhang<mailto:joezhang43@hotmail.com>; Wang Wei<mailto:wangwei@cnnic.cn>; Kenny Huang<mailto:huangksh@gmail.com>; Yuri<mailto:takamatsu@jprs.co.jp>; Yoshiro YONEYA<mailto:yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp>; Zhang Zhoucai<mailto:joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>; ; Zhiwei Yan<mailto:yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>; KoreanGP@icann.org<mailto:KoreanGP@icann.org>; ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org>; JapaneseGP@icann.org<mailto:JapaneseGP@icann.org>; ? ??<mailto:mjkim@kisa.or.kr>; 조성덕<mailto:isanjo@empas.com>; 신상현<mailto:partizan21@naver.com> 主题: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? Dear All After the discussion in today‘s CGP meeting, Prof. ZHANG and Mr. QI Chao has produced a Minimum Shared Set (MSS) for C, J and K. The MSS is consisted of the following code point subset: A: IICore Base (9810, all fall in MSR) B: Historically Registered Hanzi under .CN/TW/HK (7000/5292/4191, all fall in MSR) C: PRC National Normalized Hanzi along with their traditional variants (8105/3489, some out of MSR) MSS=A+B+C-D-E D: code points in C, but not in MSR E: Stroke or Radicals (31) LIDU?(5) Out of BMP(62) finally, we got 12531 valid code points aggregate a Minimum Shared Set, based on which C, J and K could define their own variants, or adopt others variants. After all three GPs finish the variants generation and coordinaiton on MSS, each GP still has the chance to add independent code points (with no variants) into MSS seperately, to from its own final repertoire. STEP1: MSS generated and accepted by three GPs, a mininum code points set shared by all of us. STEP2: variants generated and coordinated based on MSS STEP3: Add each GP's own independent and unrelated code points, form the final formal repertoire. Does this process work for you? please feel free to give your comments. Regards WANG Wei PS: special thanks for the hardwork of Mr. QI Chao -----原始邮件----- 发件人: "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0@gmail.com<mailto:gimgs0@gmail.com>> 发送时间: 2015年4月16日 星期四 收件人: "hotta@jprs.co.jp<mailto:hotta@jprs.co.jp>" <hotta@jprs.co.jp<mailto:hotta@jprs.co.jp>> 抄送: "Wang Wei" <wangwei@cnic.cn<mailto:wangwei@cnic.cn>>, "Dongman Lee" <dlee@cs.kaist.ac.kr<mailto:dlee@cs.kaist.ac.kr>>, "Joe Zhang" <joezhang43@hotmail.com<mailto:joezhang43@hotmail.com>>, "Wang Wei" <wangwei@cnnic.cn<mailto:wangwei@cnnic.cn>>, "Kenny Huang" <huangksh@gmail.com<mailto:huangksh@gmail.com>>, Yuri <takamatsu@jprs.co.jp<mailto:takamatsu@jprs.co.jp>>, "Yoshiro YONEYA" <yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp<mailto:yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp>>, "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn<mailto:joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>>, "<qichao@cnnic.cn<mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn>>" <qichao@cnnic.cn<mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn>>, "Zhiwei Yan" <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn<mailto:yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>>, "KoreanGP@icann.org<mailto:KoreanGP@icann.org>" <KoreanGP@icann.org<mailto:KoreanGP@icann.org>>, "ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org>" <ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org>>, "JapaneseGP@icann.org<mailto:JapaneseGP@icann.org>" <JapaneseGP@icann.org<mailto:JapaneseGP@icann.org>>, "? ??" <mjkim@kisa.or.kr<mailto:mjkim@kisa.or.kr>>, "조성덕" <isanjo@empas.com<mailto:isanjo@empas.com>>, "신상현" <partizan21@naver.com<mailto:partizan21@naver.com>>, "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0@gmail.com<mailto:gimgs0@gmail.com>> 主题: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? Dear everybody: KLGP is trying to prepare a repertoire and a variant table. I would like to get the (or almost?) latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables. Thanks very much in advance. -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok
Jonathan , Prof. Zhang, 各位好,Jonathan发过来的第二批申请表已经合并,并对我们现在字表中需要标记variant的部分做了对比。 第二批的字跟需要标记variant的字重合很多,相信可以减少一些确认variant的工作量。香港专家的variant可以提供给张老师做参考了,请见附件 第二页。 还请Jonathan检查一下是否有遗漏,虽然申请表有65份,但有些申请需要加入两个字,所以最终有69新字,请见附件第一页。 谢谢大家。 -----原始邮件----- 发件人:"Jonathan Shea" <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk> 发送时间:2015-04-20 12:50:05 (星期一) 收件人: "齐超" <qichao@cnnic.cn>, ZhangJoe <joezhang43@hotmail.com>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn> 抄送: "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, "ChineseGP@icann.org" <ChineseGP@icann.org>, "Bonnie Chun" <bonnie.chun@hkirc.hk> 主题: RE: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 現附上zip file有另外44個字的variant考查。大部份和張老師提供的一致。 這個zip file很大,有14MB。如果你收不到,我會分幾個較少的zip file送來。 Regards, Jonathan Shea From:齐超 [mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn] Sent: Sunday, 19 April 2015 12:30 AM To: ZhangJoe Cc: Jonathan Shea; Zhang Zhoucai; 'yanzhiwei'; 'wangwei'; ChineseGP@icann.org Subject: Re: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 张老师, 因为如下原因: 1. 您写的有些(?)的部分; 2. Jonathan 发过来部分文字的简繁体标注跟您的标示不一致; 3. Jonathan还有部分文字没有发过来。 所以现在没有将这些未在CDNC字表里的文字(200个左右)合入总的表(10000字+)。 希望一个确定的版本再合并,因为如果某个字的变体字很多的话,会对原有的cdnc的结构产生很多变化(比如某个字的变体有N个,则需要修改1+N行)。 -----原始邮件----- 发件人:ZhangJoe <joezhang43@hotmail.com> 发送时间:2015-04-18 15:46:37 (星期六) 收件人: "齐超" <qichao@cnnic.cn>, "Jonathan Shea" <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk> 抄送: "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn>, "ChineseGP@icann.org" <ChineseGP@icann.org> 主题: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 我昨晚传给你的收到了吗?纳入总的VARIANTs TABLE了吗? 发送自我的三星设备 -------- 原始邮件 -------- 发件人:齐超 <qichao@cnnic.cn> 日期: 2015-04-18 12:31 (GMT+08:00) 收件人: Jonathan Shea <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk> 抄送: Zhang Zhoucai <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, 'JOEZHANG43' <joezhang43@hotmail.com>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn>, ChineseGP@icann.org 主题: Re: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 各位,好, 我整理了一下Jonathan发过来的文字, 在APPFORM里有申请加入的新字以及简繁体对应关系. 这部分大都在澎湖会议时被提出, 有一些已经被采纳被写进了CGP的字表里(但是像"㩜U+3A5C"并不在MSR里). 剩下有一些是当时会议被标记未决或未通过的但是包括在IICore里的, 我以黄色背景作了标记 . 其变体关系定义还请各位专家参考. 谢谢各位. -----原始邮件----- 发件人:"Jonathan Shea" <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk> 发送时间:2015-04-17 18:44:35 (星期五) 收件人: "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, "'齐超'" <qichao@cnnic.cn>, 'JOEZHANG43' <joezhang43@hotmail.com>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn> 抄送: "ChineseGP@icann.org" <ChineseGP@icann.org> 主题: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 附上的zip file有21個字的variant考查。下星期一我會提供另外44個字的資料。 Regards, Jonathan Shea From:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Zhang Zhoucai Sent: Friday, 17 April 2015 3:07 PM To: '齐超'; 'JOEZHANG43'; 'yanzhiwei'; 'wangwei' Cc:ChineseGP@icann.org Subject: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 齐超: 对不起,上午外出。 粗略看一下,有许多是日文略字。 我手头一时找不到原有的电子档,建议你: 1. 参考Jonathan的资料(他说有的已经考察过) 2. 用程序扫描J-variant table。 把结果传给我看看。我现在出去,晚上可以再浏览校对。 张 发件人:齐超 [mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn] 发送时间: 2015年4月17日 10:31 收件人: JOEZHANG43; Joe Zhang; yanzhiwei; wangwei 抄送:ChineseGP@icann.org 主题: Re: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 张老师,王伟, 根据昨天王伟发出的最终字表,查询CDNC中已有的variant定义,形成了一个MSS最小化的字表variant。 MSS中有 12334 个字在 CDNC中,剩下的197个(12534 - 12334)个还没有variant定义,如下(也可以在excel中筛选出)。 这些字不知道张老师有没有现成的variant集?如果 case by case 确认的还是很费时的。 | Unicode | Hanzi | | 34E4 | 㓤 | | 3577 | 㕷 | | 35A1 | 㖡 | | 35AD | 㖭 | | 35BF | 㖿 | | 35CE | 㗎 | | 35F3 | 㗳 | | 35FE | 㗾 | | 3960 | 㥠 | | 39F8 | 㧸 | | 39FE | 㧾 | | 3A18 | 㨘 | | 3A52 | 㩒 | | 3A67 | 㩧 | | 3B39 | 㬹 | | 3DE7 | 㷧 | | 3DEB | 㷫 | | 3E74 | 㹴 | | 3ED0 | 㻐 | | 4065 | 䁥 | | 406A | 䁪 | | 40BB | 䂻 | | 40DF | 䃟 | | 4137 | 䄷 | | 44EA | 䓪 | | 4606 | 䘆 | | 47F4 | 䟴 | | 48B5 | 䢵 | | 48BC | 䢼 | | 48C5 | 䣅 | | 48D3 | 䣓 | | 49D1 | 䧑 | | 4A12 | 䨒 | | 4AB8 | 䪸 | | 4C7D | 䱽 | | 4C81 | 䲁 | | 4C85 | 䲅 | | 4CB3 | 䲳 | | 4D08 | 䴈 | | 4E55 | 乕 | | 4EEE | 仮 | | 4FAD | 侭 | | 51B4 | 冴 | | 51E6 | 処 | | 5227 | 刧 | | 524F | 剏 | | 5271 | 剱 | | 5368 | 卨 | | 5605 | 嘅 | | 5689 | 嚉 | | 56A2 | 嚢 | | 576E | 坮 | | 57DE | 埞 | | 5817 | 堗 | | 5841 | 塁 | | 58CC | 壌 | | 5BFE | 対 | | 5C02 | 専 | | 5CC0 | 峀 | | 5D5C | 嵜 | | 5E3F | 帿 | | 5F10 | 弐 | | 6060 | 恠 | | 60A9 | 悩 | | 60E3 | 惣 | | 61F4 | 懴 | | 62A6 | 抦 | | 6335 | 挵 | | 633F | 挿 | | 637F | 捿 | | 63BB | 掻 | | 6442 | 摂 | | 656D | 敭 | | 65FF | 旿 | | 663B | 昻 | | 663F | 昿 | | 6667 | 晧 | | 66FD | 曽 | | 681E | 栞 | | 685C | 桜 | | 685F | 桟 | | 68C5 | 棅 | | 6A53 | 橓 | | 6AAA | 檪 | | 6C17 | 気 | | 6D9C | 涜 | | 6E13 | 渓 | | 6E7A | 湺 | | 6E8C | 溌 | | 6EDD | 滝 | | 701E | 瀞 | | 7114 | 焔 | | 713C | 焼 | | 7155 | 煕 | | 7200 | 爀 | | 72A0 | 犠 | | 731F | 猟 | | 732F | 猯 | | 734F | 獏 | | 7363 | 獣 | | 73E1 | 珡 | | 73E4 | 珤 | | 7460 | 瑠 | | 74A2 | 璢 | | 74C8 | 瓈 | | 750E | 甎 | | 7534 | 甴 | | 754A | 畊 | | 7573 | 畳 | | 757A | 畺 | | 758E | 疎 | | 75E9 | 痩 | | 764E | 癎 | | 767A | 発 | | 76CC | 盌 | | 7807 | 砇 | | 783F | 砿 | | 784F | 硏 | | 7A36 | 稶 | | 7A4F | 穏 | | 7A63 | 穣 | | 7AC3 | 竃 | | 7AD7 | 竗 | | 7ADA | 竚 | | 7B6F | 筯 | | 7B86 | 箆 | | 7B92 | 箒 | | 7C14 | 簔 | | 7C4F | 籏 | | 7C83 | 粃 | | 7D9A | 続 | | 7DDC | 緜 | | 7E4A | 繊 | | 7E4B | 繋 | | 8117 | 脗 | | 8133 | 脳 | | 81D3 | 臓 | | 8217 | 舗 | | 8262 | 艢 | | 839F | 莟 | | 83B5 | 莵 | | 8420 | 萠 | | 84DA | 蓚 | | 8597 | 薗 | | 86CD | 蛍 | | 874B | 蝋 | | 877F | 蝿 | | 88B5 | 袵 | | 894D | 襍 | | 89A9 | 覩 | | 8A33 | 訳 | | 8AAD | 読 | | 8B0C | 謌 | | 8B72 | 譲 | | 8E99 | 躙 | | 8EE2 | 転 | | 8F0C | 輌 | | 8F19 | 輙 | | 8F27 | 輧 | | 8FBA | 辺 | | 9039 | 逹 | | 9197 | 醗 | | 91A4 | 醤 | | 91B8 | 醸 | | 91C8 | 釈 | | 9244 | 鉄 | | 9271 | 鉱 | | 932C | 錬 | | 9421 | 鐡 | | 945A | 鑚 | | 9665 | 陥 | | 967A | 険 | | 96B2 | 隲 | | 974D | 靍 | | 9771 | 靱 | | 982C | 頬 | | 984B | 顋 | | 98C7 | 飇 | | 98E1 | 飡 | | 98EE | 飮 | | 994D | 饍 | | 99C5 | 駅 | | 9A12 | 騒 | | 9A13 | 験 | | 9A28 | 騨 | | 9C04 | 鰄 | | 9C2E | 鰮 | | 9C76 | 鱶 | | 9D0E | 鴎 | | 9D2C | 鴬 | | 9D44 | 鵄 | | 9D8F | 鶏 | | 9DC0 | 鷀 | | 9E78 | 鹸 | | 9EB9 | 麹 | | 9EBA | 麺 | | 9F62 | 齢 | 齐超 via foxmail 发件人: 王伟 发送时间: 2015年4月16日(星期四) 下午11:38 收件人: KIM Kyongsok 抄送: hotta@jprs.co.jp; Dongman Lee; Joe Zhang; Wang Wei; Kenny Huang; Yuri; Yoshiro YONEYA; Zhang Zhoucai; ; Zhiwei Yan; KoreanGP@icann.org; ChineseGP@icann.org; JapaneseGP@icann.org; ? ??; 조성덕; 신상현 主题: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? Dear All After the discussion in today‘s CGP meeting, Prof. ZHANG and Mr. QI Chao has produced a Minimum Shared Set (MSS) for C, J and K. The MSS is consisted of the following code point subset: A: IICore Base (9810, all fall in MSR) B: Historically Registered Hanzi under .CN/TW/HK (7000/5292/4191, all fall in MSR) C: PRC National Normalized Hanzi along with their traditional variants (8105/3489, some out of MSR) MSS=A+B+C-D-E D: code points in C, but not in MSR E: Stroke or Radicals (31) LIDU?(5) Out of BMP(62) finally, we got 12531 valid code points aggregate a Minimum Shared Set, based on which C, J and K could define their own variants, or adopt others variants. After all three GPs finish the variants generation and coordinaiton on MSS, each GP still has the chance to add independent code points (with no variants) into MSS seperately, to from its own final repertoire. STEP1: MSS generated and accepted by three GPs, a mininum code points set shared by all of us. STEP2: variants generated and coordinated based on MSS STEP3: Add each GP's own independent and unrelated code points, form the final formal repertoire. Does this process work for you? please feel free to give your comments. Regards WANG Wei PS: special thanks for the hardwork of Mr. QI Chao -----原始邮件----- 发件人: "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0@gmail.com> 发送时间: 2015年4月16日星期四 收件人: "hotta@jprs.co.jp" <hotta@jprs.co.jp> 抄送: "Wang Wei" <wangwei@cnic.cn>, "Dongman Lee" <dlee@cs.kaist.ac.kr>, "Joe Zhang" <joezhang43@hotmail.com>, "Wang Wei" <wangwei@cnnic.cn>, "Kenny Huang" <huangksh@gmail.com>, Yuri <takamatsu@jprs.co.jp>, "Yoshiro YONEYA" <yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp>, "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, "<qichao@cnnic.cn>" <qichao@cnnic.cn>, "Zhiwei Yan" <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, "KoreanGP@icann.org" <KoreanGP@icann.org>, "ChineseGP@icann.org" <ChineseGP@icann.org>, "JapaneseGP@icann.org" <JapaneseGP@icann.org>, "? ??" <mjkim@kisa.or.kr>, "조성덕" <isanjo@empas.com>, "신상현" <partizan21@naver.com>, "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0@gmail.com> 主题: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? Dear everybody: KLGP is trying to prepare a repertoire and a variant table. I would like to get the (or almost?) latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables. Thanks very much in advance. -- 김경석 KIM, Kyongsok
剛發了有另外44個字的variant考查的zip file。大部份和張老師提供的一致。 這個zip file很大,有14MB。如果你收不到,我會分幾個較小的zip file送來。 Regards, Jonathan Shea From: Jonathan Shea Sent: Monday, 20 April 2015 12:50 PM To: '齐超'; ZhangJoe; 'wangwei' Cc: Zhang Zhoucai; 'yanzhiwei'; ChineseGP@icann.org; Bonnie Chun (bonnie.chun@hkirc.hk) Subject: RE: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 現附上zip file有另外44個字的variant考查。大部份和張老師提供的一致。 這個zip file很大,有14MB。如果你收不到,我會分幾個較小的zip file送來。 Regards, Jonathan Shea From: 齐超 [mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn] Sent: Sunday, 19 April 2015 12:30 AM To: ZhangJoe Cc: Jonathan Shea; Zhang Zhoucai; 'yanzhiwei'; 'wangwei'; ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org> Subject: Re: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 张老师, 因为如下原因: 1. 您写的有些(?)的部分; 2. Jonathan 发过来部分文字的简繁体标注跟您的标示不一致; 3. Jonathan还有部分文字没有发过来。 所以现在没有将这些未在CDNC字表里的文字(200个左右)合入 总的表(10000字+)。 希望一个确定的版本再合并,因为如果某个字的变体字很多的话,会对原有的cdnc的结构产生很多变化(比如某个字的变体有N个, 则需要修改1+N行)。 -----原始邮件----- 发件人:ZhangJoe <joezhang43@hotmail.com<mailto:joezhang43@hotmail.com>> 发送时间:2015-04-18 15:46:37 (星期六) 收件人: "齐超" <qichao@cnnic.cn<mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn>>, "Jonathan Shea" <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk<mailto:jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk>> 抄送: "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn<mailto:joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn<mailto:yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn<mailto:wangwei@cnic.cn>>, "ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org>" <ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org>> 主题: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 我昨晚传给你的收到了吗?纳入总的VARIANTs TABLE了吗? 发送自我的三星设备 -------- 原始邮件 -------- 发件人: 齐超 <qichao@cnnic.cn<mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn>> 日期: 2015-04-18 12:31 (GMT+08:00) 收件人: Jonathan Shea <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk<mailto:jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk>> 抄送: Zhang Zhoucai <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn<mailto:joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>>, 'JOEZHANG43' <joezhang43@hotmail.com<mailto:joezhang43@hotmail.com>>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn<mailto:yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn<mailto:wangwei@cnic.cn>>, ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org> 主题: Re: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 各位,好, 我整理了一下Jonathan发过来的文字, 在APPFORM里有申请加入的新字以及简繁体对应关系. 这部分大都在澎湖会议时被提出, 有一些已经被采纳被写进了CGP的字表里(但是像"㩜U+3A5C"并不在MSR里). 剩下有一些是当时会议被标记未决或未通过的但是包括在IICore里的, 我以黄色背景作了标记 . 其变体关系定义还请各位专家参考. 谢谢各位. -----原始邮件----- 发件人:"Jonathan Shea" <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk<mailto:jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk>> 发送时间:2015-04-17 18:44:35 (星期五) 收件人: "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn<mailto:joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>>, "'齐超'" <qichao@cnnic.cn<mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn>>, 'JOEZHANG43' <joezhang43@hotmail.com<mailto:joezhang43@hotmail.com>>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn<mailto:yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn<mailto:wangwei@cnic.cn>> 抄送: "ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org>" <ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org>> 主题: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 附上的zip file有21個字的variant考查。下星期一我會提供另外44個字的資料。 Regards, Jonathan Shea From: chinesegp-bounces@icann.org<mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org<mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Zhang Zhoucai Sent: Friday, 17 April 2015 3:07 PM To: '齐超'; 'JOEZHANG43'; 'yanzhiwei'; 'wangwei' Cc: ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org> Subject: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 齐超: 对不起,上午外出。 粗略看一下,有许多是日文略字。 我手头一时找不到原有的电子档,建议你: 1. 参考Jonathan的资料(他说有的已经考察过) 2. 用程序扫描J-variant table。 把结果传给我看看。我现在出去,晚上可以再浏览校对。 张 发件人: 齐超 [mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn] 发送时间: 2015年4月17日 10:31 收件人: JOEZHANG43; Joe Zhang; yanzhiwei; wangwei 抄送: ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org> 主题: Re: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 张老师,王伟, 根据昨天王伟发出的最终字表,查询CDNC中已有的variant定义,形成了一个MSS最小化的字表variant。 MSS中有 12334 个字在 CDNC中,剩下的197个(12534 - 12334)个还没有variant定义,如下(也可以在excel中筛选出)。 这些字不知道张老师有没有现成的variant集 ? 如果 case by case 确认的还是很费时的。 Unicode Hanzi 34E4 㓤 3577 㕷 35A1 㖡 35AD 㖭 35BF 㖿 35CE 㗎 35F3 㗳 35FE 㗾 3960 㥠 39F8 㧸 39FE 㧾 3A18 㨘 3A52 㩒 3A67 㩧 3B39 㬹 3DE7 㷧 3DEB 㷫 3E74 㹴 3ED0 㻐 4065 䁥 406A 䁪 40BB 䂻 40DF 䃟 4137 䄷 44EA 䓪 4606 䘆 47F4 䟴 48B5 䢵 48BC 䢼 48C5 䣅 48D3 䣓 49D1 䧑 4A12 䨒 4AB8 䪸 4C7D 䱽 4C81 䲁 4C85 䲅 4CB3 䲳 4D08 䴈 4E55 乕 4EEE 仮 4FAD 侭 51B4 冴 51E6 処 5227 刧 524F 剏 5271 剱 5368 卨 5605 嘅 5689 嚉 56A2 嚢 576E 坮 57DE 埞 5817 堗 5841 塁 58CC 壌 5BFE 対 5C02 専 5CC0 峀 5D5C 嵜 5E3F 帿 5F10 弐 6060 恠 60A9 悩 60E3 惣 61F4 懴 62A6 抦 6335 挵 633F 挿 637F 捿 63BB 掻 6442 摂 656D 敭 65FF 旿 663B 昻 663F 昿 6667 晧 66FD 曽 681E 栞 685C 桜 685F 桟 68C5 棅 6A53 橓 6AAA 檪 6C17 気 6D9C 涜 6E13 渓 6E7A 湺 6E8C 溌 6EDD 滝 701E 瀞 7114 焔 713C 焼 7155 煕 7200 爀 72A0 犠 731F 猟 732F 猯 734F 獏 7363 獣 73E1 珡 73E4 珤 7460 瑠 74A2 璢 74C8 瓈 750E 甎 7534 甴 754A 畊 7573 畳 757A 畺 758E 疎 75E9 痩 764E 癎 767A 発 76CC 盌 7807 砇 783F 砿 784F 硏 7A36 稶 7A4F 穏 7A63 穣 7AC3 竃 7AD7 竗 7ADA 竚 7B6F 筯 7B86 箆 7B92 箒 7C14 簔 7C4F 籏 7C83 粃 7D9A 続 7DDC 緜 7E4A 繊 7E4B 繋 8117 脗 8133 脳 81D3 臓 8217 舗 8262 艢 839F 莟 83B5 莵 8420 萠 84DA 蓚 8597 薗 86CD 蛍 874B 蝋 877F 蝿 88B5 袵 894D 襍 89A9 覩 8A33 訳 8AAD 読 8B0C 謌 8B72 譲 8E99 躙 8EE2 転 8F0C 輌 8F19 輙 8F27 輧 8FBA 辺 9039 逹 9197 醗 91A4 醤 91B8 醸 91C8 釈 9244 鉄 9271 鉱 932C 錬 9421 鐡 945A 鑚 9665 陥 967A 険 96B2 隲 974D 靍 9771 靱 982C 頬 984B 顋 98C7 飇 98E1 飡 98EE 飮 994D 饍 99C5 駅 9A12 騒 9A13 験 9A28 騨 9C04 鰄 9C2E 鰮 9C76 鱶 9D0E 鴎 9D2C 鴬 9D44 鵄 9D8F 鶏 9DC0 鷀 9E78 鹸 9EB9 麹 9EBA 麺 9F62 齢 ________________________________ 齐超 via foxmail 发件人: 王伟<mailto:wangwei@cnic.cn> 发送时间: 2015年4月16日(星期四) 下午11:38 收件人: KIM Kyongsok<mailto:gimgs0@gmail.com> 抄送: hotta@jprs.co.jp<mailto:hotta@jprs.co.jp>; Dongman Lee<mailto:dlee@cs.kaist.ac.kr>; Joe Zhang<mailto:joezhang43@hotmail.com>; Wang Wei<mailto:wangwei@cnnic.cn>; Kenny Huang<mailto:huangksh@gmail.com>; Yuri<mailto:takamatsu@jprs.co.jp>; Yoshiro YONEYA<mailto:yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp>; Zhang Zhoucai<mailto:joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>; ; Zhiwei Yan<mailto:yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>; KoreanGP@icann.org<mailto:KoreanGP@icann.org>; ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org>; JapaneseGP@icann.org<mailto:JapaneseGP@icann.org>; ? ??<mailto:mjkim@kisa.or.kr>; 조성덕<mailto:isanjo@empas.com>; 신상현<mailto:partizan21@naver.com> 主题: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? Dear All After the discussion in today‘s CGP meeting, Prof. ZHANG and Mr. QI Chao has produced a Minimum Shared Set (MSS) for C, J and K. The MSS is consisted of the following code point subset: A: IICore Base (9810, all fall in MSR) B: Historically Registered Hanzi under .CN/TW/HK (7000/5292/4191, all fall in MSR) C: PRC National Normalized Hanzi along with their traditional variants (8105/3489, some out of MSR) MSS=A+B+C-D-E D: code points in C, but not in MSR E: Stroke or Radicals (31) LIDU?(5) Out of BMP(62) finally, we got 12531 valid code points aggregate a Minimum Shared Set, based on which C, J and K could define their own variants, or adopt others variants. After all three GPs finish the variants generation and coordinaiton on MSS, each GP still has the chance to add independent code points (with no variants) into MSS seperately, to from its own final repertoire. STEP1: MSS generated and accepted by three GPs, a mininum code points set shared by all of us. STEP2: variants generated and coordinated based on MSS STEP3: Add each GP's own independent and unrelated code points, form the final formal repertoire. Does this process work for you? please feel free to give your comments. Regards WANG Wei PS: special thanks for the hardwork of Mr. QI Chao -----原始邮件----- 发件人: "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0@gmail.com<mailto:gimgs0@gmail.com>> 发送时间: 2015年4月16日 星期四 收件人: "hotta@jprs.co.jp<mailto:hotta@jprs.co.jp>" <hotta@jprs.co.jp<mailto:hotta@jprs.co.jp>> 抄送: "Wang Wei" <wangwei@cnic.cn<mailto:wangwei@cnic.cn>>, "Dongman Lee" <dlee@cs.kaist.ac.kr<mailto:dlee@cs.kaist.ac.kr>>, "Joe Zhang" <joezhang43@hotmail.com<mailto:joezhang43@hotmail.com>>, "Wang Wei" <wangwei@cnnic.cn<mailto:wangwei@cnnic.cn>>, "Kenny Huang" <huangksh@gmail.com<mailto:huangksh@gmail.com>>, Yuri <takamatsu@jprs.co.jp<mailto:takamatsu@jprs.co.jp>>, "Yoshiro YONEYA" <yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp<mailto:yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp>>, "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn<mailto:joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>>, "<qichao@cnnic.cn<mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn>>" <qichao@cnnic.cn<mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn>>, "Zhiwei Yan" <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn<mailto:yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>>, "KoreanGP@icann.org<mailto:KoreanGP@icann.org>" <KoreanGP@icann.org<mailto:KoreanGP@icann.org>>, "ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org>" <ChineseGP@icann.org<mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org>>, "JapaneseGP@icann.org<mailto:JapaneseGP@icann.org>" <JapaneseGP@icann.org<mailto:JapaneseGP@icann.org>>, "? ??" <mjkim@kisa.or.kr<mailto:mjkim@kisa.or.kr>>, "조성덕" <isanjo@empas.com<mailto:isanjo@empas.com>>, "신상현" <partizan21@naver.com<mailto:partizan21@naver.com>>, "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0@gmail.com<mailto:gimgs0@gmail.com>> 主题: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? Dear everybody: KLGP is trying to prepare a repertoire and a variant table. I would like to get the (or almost?) latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables. Thanks very much in advance. -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok
Jonathan, 文件已经收到。 我看之前的繁简体定义和张老师标注的还是有所区别。 稍后我合并下。 等全部的字体出来,放到一起讨论吧。 谢谢。 齐超 via foxmail 发件人: Jonathan Shea 发送时间: 2015年4月20日(星期一) 下午12:53 收件人: 齐超; ZhangJoe; 'wangwei' 抄送: Zhang Zhoucai; 'yanzhiwei'; ChineseGP@icann.org; Bonnie Chun 主题: RE: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 剛發了有另外44個字的variant考查的zip file。大部份和張老師提供的一致。 這個zip file很大,有14MB。如果你收不到,我會分幾個較小的zip file送來。 Regards, Jonathan Shea From: Jonathan Shea Sent: Monday, 20 April 2015 12:50 PM To: '齐超'; ZhangJoe; 'wangwei' Cc: Zhang Zhoucai; 'yanzhiwei'; ChineseGP@icann.org; Bonnie Chun (bonnie.chun@hkirc.hk) Subject: RE: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 現附上zip file有另外44個字的variant考查。大部份和張老師提供的一致。 這個zip file很大,有14MB。如果你收不到,我會分幾個較小的zip file送來。 Regards, Jonathan Shea From: 齐超 [mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn] Sent: Sunday, 19 April 2015 12:30 AM To: ZhangJoe Cc: Jonathan Shea; Zhang Zhoucai; 'yanzhiwei'; 'wangwei'; ChineseGP@icann.org Subject: Re: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 张老师, 因为如下原因: 1. 您写的有些(?)的部分; 2. Jonathan 发过来部分文字的简繁体标注跟您的标示不一致; 3. Jonathan还有部分文字没有发过来。 所以现在没有将这些未在CDNC字表里的文字(200个左右)合入 总的表(10000字+)。 希望一个确定的版本再合并,因为如果某个字的变体字很多的话,会对原有的cdnc的结构产生很多变化(比如某个字的变体有N个, 则需要修改1+N行)。 -----原始邮件----- 发件人:ZhangJoe <joezhang43@hotmail.com> 发送时间:2015-04-18 15:46:37 (星期六) 收件人: "齐超" <qichao@cnnic.cn>, "Jonathan Shea" <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk> 抄送: "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn>, "ChineseGP@icann.org" <ChineseGP@icann.org> 主题: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 我昨晚传给你的收到了吗?纳入总的VARIANTs TABLE了吗? 发送自我的三星设备 -------- 原始邮件 -------- 发件人: 齐超 <qichao@cnnic.cn> 日期: 2015-04-18 12:31 (GMT+08:00) 收件人: Jonathan Shea <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk> 抄送: Zhang Zhoucai <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, 'JOEZHANG43' <joezhang43@hotmail.com>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn>, ChineseGP@icann.org 主题: Re: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 各位,好, 我整理了一下Jonathan发过来的文字, 在APPFORM里有申请加入的新字以及简繁体对应关系. 这部分大都在澎湖会议时被提出, 有一些已经被采纳被写进了CGP的字表里(但是像"㩜U+3A5C"并不在MSR里). 剩下有一些是当时会议被标记未决或未通过的但是包括在IICore里的, 我以黄色背景作了标记 . 其变体关系定义还请各位专家参考. 谢谢各位. -----原始邮件----- 发件人:"Jonathan Shea" <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk> 发送时间:2015-04-17 18:44:35 (星期五) 收件人: "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, "'齐超'" <qichao@cnnic.cn>, 'JOEZHANG43' <joezhang43@hotmail.com>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn> 抄送: "ChineseGP@icann.org" <ChineseGP@icann.org> 主题: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 附上的zip file有21個字的variant考查。下星期一我會提供另外44個字的資料。 Regards, Jonathan Shea From: chinesegp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Zhang Zhoucai Sent: Friday, 17 April 2015 3:07 PM To: '齐超'; 'JOEZHANG43'; 'yanzhiwei'; 'wangwei' Cc: ChineseGP@icann.org Subject: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 齐超: 对不起,上午外出。 粗略看一下,有许多是日文略字。 我手头一时找不到原有的电子档,建议你: 1. 参考Jonathan的资料(他说有的已经考察过) 2. 用程序扫描J-variant table。 把结果传给我看看。我现在出去,晚上可以再浏览校对。 张 发件人: 齐超 [mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn] 发送时间: 2015年4月17日 10:31 收件人: JOEZHANG43; Joe Zhang; yanzhiwei; wangwei 抄送: ChineseGP@icann.org 主题: Re: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? 张老师,王伟, 根据昨天王伟发出的最终字表,查询CDNC中已有的variant定义,形成了一个MSS最小化的字表variant。 MSS中有 12334 个字在 CDNC中,剩下的197个(12534 - 12334)个还没有variant定义,如下(也可以在excel中筛选出)。 这些字不知道张老师有没有现成的variant集 ? 如果 case by case 确认的还是很费时的。 UnicodeHanzi 34E4㓤 3577㕷 35A1㖡 35AD㖭 35BF㖿 35CE㗎 35F3㗳 35FE㗾 3960㥠 39F8㧸 39FE㧾 3A18㨘 3A52㩒 3A67㩧 3B39㬹 3DE7㷧 3DEB㷫 3E74㹴 3ED0㻐 4065䁥 406A䁪 40BB䂻 40DF䃟 4137䄷 44EA䓪 4606䘆 47F4䟴 48B5䢵 48BC䢼 48C5䣅 48D3䣓 49D1䧑 4A12䨒 4AB8䪸 4C7D䱽 4C81䲁 4C85䲅 4CB3䲳 4D08䴈 4E55乕 4EEE仮 4FAD侭 51B4冴 51E6処 5227刧 524F剏 5271剱 5368卨 5605嘅 5689嚉 56A2嚢 576E坮 57DE埞 5817堗 5841塁 58CC壌 5BFE対 5C02専 5CC0峀 5D5C嵜 5E3F帿 5F10弐 6060恠 60A9悩 60E3惣 61F4懴 62A6抦 6335挵 633F挿 637F捿 63BB掻 6442摂 656D敭 65FF旿 663B昻 663F昿 6667晧 66FD曽 681E栞 685C桜 685F桟 68C5棅 6A53橓 6AAA檪 6C17気 6D9C涜 6E13渓 6E7A湺 6E8C溌 6EDD滝 701E瀞 7114焔 713C焼 7155煕 7200爀 72A0犠 731F猟 732F猯 734F獏 7363獣 73E1珡 73E4珤 7460瑠 74A2璢 74C8瓈 750E甎 7534甴 754A畊 7573畳 757A畺 758E疎 75E9痩 764E癎 767A発 76CC盌 7807砇 783F砿 784F硏 7A36稶 7A4F穏 7A63穣 7AC3竃 7AD7竗 7ADA竚 7B6F筯 7B86箆 7B92箒 7C14簔 7C4F籏 7C83粃 7D9A続 7DDC緜 7E4A繊 7E4B繋 8117脗 8133脳 81D3臓 8217舗 8262艢 839F莟 83B5莵 8420萠 84DA蓚 8597薗 86CD蛍 874B蝋 877F蝿 88B5袵 894D襍 89A9覩 8A33訳 8AAD読 8B0C謌 8B72譲 8E99躙 8EE2転 8F0C輌 8F19輙 8F27輧 8FBA辺 9039逹 9197醗 91A4醤 91B8醸 91C8釈 9244鉄 9271鉱 932C錬 9421鐡 945A鑚 9665陥 967A険 96B2隲 974D靍 9771靱 982C頬 984B顋 98C7飇 98E1飡 98EE飮 994D饍 99C5駅 9A12騒 9A13験 9A28騨 9C04鰄 9C2E鰮 9C76鱶 9D0E鴎 9D2C鴬 9D44鵄 9D8F鶏 9DC0鷀 9E78鹸 9EB9麹 9EBA麺 9F62齢 齐超 via foxmail 发件人: 王伟 发送时间: 2015年4月16日(星期四) 下午11:38 收件人: KIM Kyongsok 抄送: hotta@jprs.co.jp; Dongman Lee; Joe Zhang; Wang Wei; Kenny Huang; Yuri; Yoshiro YONEYA; Zhang Zhoucai; ; Zhiwei Yan; KoreanGP@icann.org; ChineseGP@icann.org; JapaneseGP@icann.org; ? ??; 조성덕; 신상현 主题: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? Dear All After the discussion in today‘s CGP meeting, Prof. ZHANG and Mr. QI Chao has produced a Minimum Shared Set (MSS) for C, J and K. The MSS is consisted of the following code point subset: A: IICore Base (9810, all fall in MSR) B: Historically Registered Hanzi under .CN/TW/HK (7000/5292/4191, all fall in MSR) C: PRC National Normalized Hanzi along with their traditional variants (8105/3489, some out of MSR) MSS=A+B+C-D-E D: code points in C, but not in MSR E: Stroke or Radicals (31) LIDU?(5) Out of BMP(62) finally, we got 12531 valid code points aggregate a Minimum Shared Set, based on which C, J and K could define their own variants, or adopt others variants. After all three GPs finish the variants generation and coordinaiton on MSS, each GP still has the chance to add independent code points (with no variants) into MSS seperately, to from its own final repertoire. STEP1: MSS generated and accepted by three GPs, a mininum code points set shared by all of us. STEP2: variants generated and coordinated based on MSS STEP3: Add each GP's own independent and unrelated code points, form the final formal repertoire. Does this process work for you? please feel free to give your comments. Regards WANG Wei PS: special thanks for the hardwork of Mr. QI Chao -----原始邮件----- 发件人: "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0@gmail.com> 发送时间: 2015年4月16日 星期四 收件人: "hotta@jprs.co.jp" <hotta@jprs.co.jp> 抄送: "Wang Wei" <wangwei@cnic.cn>, "Dongman Lee" <dlee@cs.kaist.ac.kr>, "Joe Zhang" <joezhang43@hotmail.com>, "Wang Wei" <wangwei@cnnic.cn>, "Kenny Huang" <huangksh@gmail.com>, Yuri <takamatsu@jprs.co.jp>, "Yoshiro YONEYA" <yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp>, "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, "<qichao@cnnic.cn>" <qichao@cnnic.cn>, "Zhiwei Yan" <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, "KoreanGP@icann.org" <KoreanGP@icann.org>, "ChineseGP@icann.org" <ChineseGP@icann.org>, "JapaneseGP@icann.org" <JapaneseGP@icann.org>, "? ??" <mjkim@kisa.or.kr>, "조성덕" <isanjo@empas.com>, "신상현" <partizan21@naver.com>, "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0@gmail.com> 主题: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables? Dear everybody: KLGP is trying to prepare a repertoire and a variant table. I would like to get the (or almost?) latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables. Thanks very much in advance. -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok
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