- comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20@icann.org

[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] About .com domains
by Carl Riedel Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Stop this bullshit. You are becoming like the Monsanto of the internet. Secret deals with Verisign? Fuck you ICANN Carl Riedel

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Price increases
by Derek Barrington Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Should the prices of internet domain names be allowed to increase unduly I will start to combine my domains and cut down the number I register. The "open" market is being jumped on by the greedy few who don't deserve any money. Derek Barrington

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] (no subject)
by Matt Williams Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

I am a registrant of multiple .com domain name. I am against the proposed price increase to .COM domains. No one other than Verisign want increases in .COM prices. ICANN is supposed to govern the domain name system in the public interest. Matthew Williams

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] (no subject)
by noreply＠zevservis.com Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Proposed Amendment 3 to the .COM Registry Agreement
by Geoff Sheridan Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] (no subject)
by Ben Milofsky Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

No. Com ammendments

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] .com domain increase
by henniel3439 Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

To whom it may concernTo increase the cost of the .com domains will harm a lot of internet users. For one there are many countries using the .com domain and not all of them are first world countries, and already paid a lot in US$ where there local currency is very weak against the US$.PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Do not increase com pricing
by Austin Bollinger Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

As an ICANN NextGen member, I ask that you refrain from hiking .com pricing - do you remember your core values? I do. Sent from my iPhone

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Domain Registration Cost Increases
by Wynand Vermeulen Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

As an operator of multiple websites and app, I have lots of hosting costs to cover to ensure I can deliver the service to my customers. Most of the costs of services I use are based on the resource costs of what I and my visitors consume, with the exception of DNS Registrations, which are fixed annual costs, one size fits all... It is clear to me that the actual registration of the domain is not something that should not be growing in cost, in fact should be getting cheaper all the time due to automation. Thus any cost increase should be due to underlying infrastructure to service DNS Lookups due to web traffic. Considering that internet traffic continues to grow, I can understand that the general trend is more DNS Lookups, and thus that more infrastructure is needed to service it, thus an increase in cost. All my websites are relatively low in traffic, and I feel that paying for other people’s DNS lookups indirectly via increased DNS Registration costs is ridiculous. I’m pretty sure with the current model, the majority of DNS lookups are for mega sites like Google, Facebook, YouTube…. why should I be paying for their DNS Lookups? In fact I resent it since I already pay these parties for their services, or they get paid in terms of advertising fees. Let the cost be bourne by those who cause it, not the community as a whole. I suggest ICANN gets on the Cloud computing train and charge domain owners based on the existing DNS Registration, and then add additional charges based on the number of Lookups. It would also make sense for each user to have a universal portal account at ICANN where all domains I own can be managed independant of the intermediate (wholesale) registrants. Sale is one thing, service is another. Sincerely, Wynand Vermeulen Managing Director The Expert Box B.V.

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Comments on amendment 3
by Hatem Mahdy Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

This amendment will harm my business and other businesses that are currently using .COM domains. It harms the trust we have in ICANN I strongly oppose it Regards, Hatem Mahdy

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Proposed changes
by Kathryn Rickard Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Hello I believe we should keep domain pricing accessible to all. I help a couple of charities as well as a fledgling business in Nepal all of which rely on cheap internet windows for their services. The proposed changes make this a problem. Please reconsider. Regards Kathryn Rickard Sent from my iPhone

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Ban the increase in fees for .com domains!
by Sen (Sen) Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

To whomsoever this may concern, .com domain should not attract a higher fee than current prices. Stop hiking prices and reverse this agreement / policy change! I do not support the policy changes made. Regards, Senbagam

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] .COM Price Increases
by nikoll Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Comment against price increases of .com domain names
by Patrick Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

I am a registrant of multiple .com domain names. I am against the proposed price increase to .COM domains. The current rate of $7.85 is already far more than justified. ICANN is supposed to govern the domain name system in the public interest. Patrick Lancaster, UK

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Stop price increase to .COM
by Meghan Norean Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Why would you make a secret deal without telling those who would be affected the most? Oh, GREED! Your true face will show if you go ahead with this deal. As a small business owner, I will be forced to take my business off .COM and solely on social media. This will make the internet inaccessible for so many individuals and representation will be lacking online leading to increased fascism within the system. I'm completely against this deal! Meghan Norean

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] .com price increase
by Danja Vasiliev Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

this is a terrible idea to allow commercial enterprises to take regulatory positions -- Danja Vasiliev / sent from mobile @k0a1a http://k0a1a.net/danja https://k0a1a.net/danja-vasiliev_pub-key.asc

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Proposed Amendment 3 to the .COM Registry Agreement
by Arsène Arnaud Ouedraogo Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

I am against

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Proposed Amendment 3 to the .COM Registry Agreement
by Tania Ferreira Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

To whom it may concern, The proposal to increase prices on .COM accounts will have huge impact on small and start up businesses. .COM becoming unaffordable will mean only the richest companies can afford to run domains ending in .COM and contribute to a 2 tier internet with the advantage going to large, wealthier players versus new start ups and small businesses. As the founder of a small business - I strongly urge you to consider the impact on startups across the world who today have a .COM and think about the impact this will have in future on innovation and competition. Regards, Tania - - Tania Ferreira Partner | Two Igloos <http://www.twoigloos.com/>

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] For the sake of the open internet
by Galen Han Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Increasing .com prices will only make the Internet more divided. It is extremely worrying for ICANN to attempt to raise these prices so covertly.

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Price increase .com domains
by Milen Grigorov Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

I do not agree with the price increase of the .com domain names

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Objection
by Jonathan Thatcher Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Hello, I object to this monopoly business practice. Let me be clear there should not be price controls or price stepping. Jonathan

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Please don't take advantage
by Pamela Whitaker Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

This is a comment regarding the ICANN decision to raise rates...seemingly without limits and to taking advantage of their position within the Domain Name registration world. The internet is one way that new entrepreneurs can get started. Our funds are limited and I personally will have to drop several domain names if these rate increases occur. I would ask you to consider attempting to get funds from those who grabbed exclusive names just in order to resell them as an alternate source of funds. I don't think pushing our current rates higher will benefit you in the long run. Please reconsider this. Sincerely Pamela Whitaker Justice of the Peace candidate Pulaski County Arkansas Business Owner Non Profit Founder

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] ICAN proposed amendment 3
by Keith Yates Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

The apparent cost increases associated with this proposal are completely unacceptable. There is no transparency of the uses to which the increased revenue will be put so I assume this is sheer greed on behalf of those concerned with this unnecessary change. I am merely a private user and such a move may force me to close down my website. *Keith - G3XGW* http://www.tibblestone.com/ <http://www.tibblestone.com/oldradios/Old_Radios.htm>

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Amendment 3 to the .COM Registry Agreement
by chris＠leeupoort.com Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

I strongly object to the amendment for .com domains: 1. Price Increases - If Verisign cannot do it at the present price, get a company who will. There are many who will eagerly take over from Verisign. 2. Verisign cannot operate as a domain registrar from it's present position without gaining an unfair advantage. Give the responsibility over another company if Verisign is so keen to become a registrar. 3. It is not a donation of $20 Million to ICANN when Verisign gains unfair privileges over other registrars, it is bribery. Is ICANN really prepared to stoop this low? It is amazing to see how "respected" people can expose their criminal minds without even considering the fact that people are not stupid and see exactly what is going on.

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Letter about the com amendment
by Karl Niehus Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Dear Madam, or Sir, I am concerned about this amendment to the Registry Agreement because it will affect, not just me, buy any individual who would like their own domain name. I am 100% sure that no corporation will object to the 28% cost increase every six years as they earn money off their domain name and paying almost any amount would be acceptible to them. However, there are a great deal of small businesses that would see this as a burden as well as individual users out there that have purchased their own domain name and are using it for personal use, not commercial use. Several of us have multiple domain names, if for no other reason than to protect our own names from being used to run a website. I personally have about 6 that I use to protect myself and my family while also allowing my children to be able to have a domain name that is exclusively theirs. 20 year Cost analysis: $ 7.85 / year 2018 $10.29 / year 2023 (31% increase over 2018) $13.49 / year 2029 (72% increase over 2018) $17.68 / year 2035 (125% increase over 2018) $23.17 / year 2041 (195% increase over 2018) I am aware that the 7% is a maximum per year for each of the four years and, theoretically, there could be no increase or a sub 7% increase some years, however, I have little faith on this being the norm and, most certainly, CANNOT plan on it being any less than the full 7% in any fiscal plans made. I understand it would be extremely difficult for you to create a regulation that would charge businesses more and individuals less, however, that may be what is required at this time. This would leave a loophole for businesses to have an individual register their domain name, however, no corporation of any size will be willing to leave their domain names in private hands. This would also allow fledgling businesses (aka startups) to keep their costs low at first. Remember, many businesses have been started in individual's garages. You may also assume that all ".com" domain names are used for, or are supposed to be used for commercial purposes, however, this is not the case today. If this had been defined and enforced from the beginning of the internet, this would be a non-issue, however, to start enforcing it today would cause many many individuals to lose their domains. Yes, there are other top level domains they can move to, however, that doesn't alleviate the fact that they would be losing an asset they had invested much time, money, and resources acquiring. Please keep the annual fee very low or consider a more flexible charging system for the .COM top level domain that will keep it accessible to individuals and small businesses. Thank you, Karl Niehus Sent from my iPhone

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Amendment to .com registry agreement
by ddowney101 Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Hi I object to the proposed changes to the .com registry. This secretive deal is going to lead to price increases. This was not deliberated in the presence of domain name providers and without industry input. This is not in the best interest of internet users and only serves ICANNs financial interests. Regards Dermot Downey Ireland

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] I Disagree with The Changes
by nicholas kioko Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

It is with deep sad news that I am not pleased with the changes on the .COM Otherwise I will pull off from being a client and will call for many to preach the same. Let you stop it. Thank you

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Against the Proposed Amendment 3 to the .COM Registry Agreement
by Eva Gabriella Farkas Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Dear ICANN Organization, The domain registrar company Namecheap informed me about your propose to change the contract you have with Verisign, Inc. who operate the .COM top-level-domain (TLD). Since this action can cause relevant increase of the .com domains’ future price without having any additional benefit for the .com domain owners I’m fully against it. Additionally there is an ethical issue with this changes negotiated in secret since ICANN is a non-profit private organization which has taken over from the U.S. government various administrative duties associated with running the Internet in 1998 and expanded to a global organization with "multistakeholder model”. Please reconsider your intention to change this contract! Thanks! Best regards, Evi Farkas one of the .com domain owners.

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Do not increase .com prices
by Guilherme Thomazi Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Just stop being greedy, find something else better to do, help some poor children for instance

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Proposed Amendment 3 to the .COM Registry Agreement
by Imafidon Isaac Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Please do not increase it. Let it be as it have always be. An increase in price of domain having .com, will really affect a lot of people and business. Especially those who don't have enouch money to renew their own. Please everybody is okay with the old price and I think it should remain like that.

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Objection to new pricing agreement
by Frank＠Asterion Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Dear Sir or Madam, You are proposing an amendment to the pricing structure but fail to explain who aside from your own organization and Verisign would benefit. Domain owners will definitely be the ones who will pay this price increase without receiving a better product or service in exchange. That you are planning to grant Verisign the right to increase domain prices and getting in exchange a $20 million dollar injection, is establishing a co-dependency that is opposing the goals of the ICANN organization. People are happy to pay more if they know why they pay more. If you cannot deliver that answer in a transparent way then you are failing your community. Due to the raised concerns, I recommend to not amend the existing contract. ICANN is risking to lose any credibility and independence by trying to solve potential issues this way. Best Regards -- Frank Nowak | Managing Director Asterion B.V. Nieuwe Gracht 11 | 2011LN Haarlem | Netherlands Tax-ID number: NL5695672323

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] (no subject)
by Eugene Bos Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

do not make any changes that will make domains more expensive. if u will do - fuck u, u will get a group lawsuit for that! -- Eugene Bos skype: eugenebos.com http://makedreamprofits.ru ᐧ

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Increase of .COM pricing with Verisign
by James Walbridge Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

I am strongly against the arbitrary increase in pricing with no valid reason that I have read so far. Hopefully we don't need the government to step in and regulate this too. Be better. -- James Walbridge

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] AVOID .COM DOMAIN PRICE INCREASES
by Anne Odeh Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Dear sir, Following the recent news about your intention to increase .Com domain names prices, I hereby clearly state that: THESE PROPOSED INCREASES LACK CLARITY AND TRANSPARENCY AND ARE THEREFORE TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE by me and numerous other .com users. Thanks. Anne

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Proposed Amendment 3 to the .COM Registry Agreement
by Neil Morton Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

To whom it may concern, I am dismayed to read the latest Proposed Amendment 3 to the .COM Registry Agreement. The very idea that prices can increase by 7% per year in 4 year blocks is preposterous, and quite frankly is akin to extortion. I am also extremely interested to understand the purpose of the extra $20 million payment to ICANN over 5 years is for, as I cannot see anywhere where this is detailed. What are ICANN doing for the betterment of web property or the web as a whole? Indeed, I would like to understand how this is not the signs of an organised cartel? Regards, Neil Morton

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] ICAAN changes - I do not approve
by Farid Tejani Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Unacceptable exploitation of a monopoly position. I do not approve of such changes Sent from my iPhone

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] youCANN be less shady and greedy
by Diogo Nunes Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

I strongly oppose the agreement. Not only was it made in secret, but it would drastically impact many individuals who did not have a say in this. Please reconsider the proposal. The current rate of $7.85 is already far more than justified. -- *Diogo Nunes* *diogonunes.com <http://www.diogonunes.com/>*

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Price increase
by GARIESH SHARMA Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

I think the information on your website about this issue is poor and not easy to understand for many people. You need to use plain English if you really want to engage with people. ICANN needs to take responsibility for the price increase. This is a monopoly and ICANN needs to be seen to be looking out for the consumer. There is not enough information about value. "The price for .COM Registry Services has been static at $7.85 since 2012." This is not an argument for a price increase. ICANN needs to explain the amount of money it raises via this "tax" and give a breakdown of expenditure. It needs to let us know about planned expenditure such that any price increase can be justified by better service. As it stands, I object to any price increase, Best, Gariesh Sharma

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] ICANN captured by registry interests
by Kevin Ohashi Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

I strongly oppose the price increase proposed. There is simply no justification for the price increase. ICANN is taking essentially a 20 million dollar bribe to allow VeriSign to capture many multiples more than that in increased profit. 20 million dollars over 5 years is nothing. If ICANN desperately needs this funding, it is sitting on ~450 million dollars from the last 990 I could find (2018 - https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/fy18-irs-tax-form-990-return-or… ). If this is essential, it can be pulled out of the budget, it shouldn't be taking VeriSign's money in a quid-pro-quo arrangement to allow VeriSign to raise prices on a monopoly product with wildly healthy margins - "*The operating margin for 2019 was 65.5 percent compared to 63.2 percent in 2018.*" (Quote from VeriSign quarterly report https://investor.verisign.com/static-files/4a30ffcc-5b47-464d-bf43-11637bdf… ). VeriSign has a monopoly over .COM which has an extremely disproportionate power over internet commerce. The cost of operating domain registries has gone down (as seen by competitive bids to operate registries and in VeriSign's operating margin). ICANN pretending it shouldn't be a price regulator is a new line which seems to be ICANN abdicating it's responsibility towards internet users and only representing the interest of registry operators. Removing price caps on .ORG has lead to the catastrophe we see today. Letting VeriSign continually increase prices on .COM has an even larger impact considering it's stronger monopoly and it being an order of magnitude larger than .ORG. If ICANN really cared about competition, it wouldn't be giving contracts to run the registry in perpetuity and open them up to competitive bidding every so often. This selective interpretation of how markets should and shouldn't be free is designed to hurt consumers and line the pockets of registries, which seem to have a revolving door with the ICANN folks. I fully expect ICANN to ignore the overwhelming opposition to these price caps as they did with .ORG ( https://reviewsignal.com/blog/2019/07/01/icann-fails-the-internet-community… ). I will be amazed if we even see the board make a decision or if they simply hand it off to staff and pretend this is unimportant. ICANN's multi stakeholder model is a failed project in governance and I'm sure this comment period will simply be the latest supporting evidence. Kevin Ohashi -- Kevin Ohashi Founder, Review Signal <http://reviewsignal.com/> *Providing Honest Web Hosting Reviews* Follow us on Twitter: @ReviewSignal <http://twitter.com/reviewsignal> Like us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/ReviewSignal <http://facebook.com/ReviewSignal>

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Proposed increases for .com
by Chris Beveridge Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Dear Sir or Madam, I am a small business owner who uses a .com I am against these proposed increases, there should be a cap. Your sincerely Chris Beveridge Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Price increase for .com
by faiz mazumder Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Price increase for .com
by faiz mazumder Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Proposed Amendment 3 to the .COM Registry Agreement
by Nazim Aghabayov Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

I am a registrant of a .com domain name. I am against the proposed price increase to .COM domains. Verisign is merely your manager of the .COM Registry – it has no business dictating the price. ICANN is supposed to govern the domain name system in the public interest. Nazim Aghabayov Prague, Hlavni mesto Praha Czechia

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Namecheap
by Martin Stanley Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Sent from Mail for Windows 10 The Horizon User Group has been using Namecheap for our website for several years. We are a registered charity and cannot afford price increases. Keep the pricing low and you will get more response. Regards Martin Stanley Treasurer

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Comment
by Daniel Shir Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

I am a registrant of a .com domain name. I am against the proposed price increase to .COM domains. No one other than Verisign want increases in .COM prices. The current rate of $7.85 is already far more than justified. Verisign is merely your manager of the .COM Registry – it has no business dictating the price. ICANN is supposed to govern the domain name system in the public interest. -Daniel, NY

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] We Object! Why .com domains price Hanna change?
by info Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

Dear Sir/Madam, We really don’t understand why the .com domains price will increase. We are not happy and would like to object this unfair decision. I hope our objection can help the generations in future that need to suffer from such wrong decisions at present time. The people that would try to have a website to show their abilities to show off and find their opportunities to get seen. Thanks for this opportunity. Regards, A man that built all his life from a cheap.com domain.

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Concern
by Leona Wellington Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

I'm concerned about your decision to raise prices on ______.COM domains and feel that many people have personal domains or authority sites and don't perceive any financial gain from these sites. If you raise prices it could push a lot of people away from having a website at all. If ____.COM domain owners generated money from their domain, it might be more justifiable, but if not, we already pay a lot of costs just keeping the domain and often have to pay tech help to keep the domain functional and up to date. We do this willingly for our own presence and branding image. Most important, in many cases, such as mine, we use our sites to provide useful blogs, lesson plans, and information to the general public at no cost, so please consider this before increasing prices for ______.COM domains. I for one, have the aim of unifying people worldwide in order to have one strong global language with which to communicate. Strong accurate communication in our time is vital for future progress and the unified efforts for survival of the planet and human race through cooperation and communication. Thank you for your consideration. Changing the Way the World Communicates www.leonawellington.com +61 4 77077600

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] don't raise .com prices
by Music Composer Singapore Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

hello, understand icann and verisign have signed a deal that could result in .com prices going up. pls don't do this. i'm a small business owner and such decisions will greatly affect my sustainability. appreciate your care to keep the standard consistent to what it currently is so businesses like myself can keep operating. -- Musical regards, Rupak (+6596341469) <http://www.musiccomposersg.com/> Music Composer Singapore <http://www.musiccomposersg.com/>

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Pricing Reconsideration
by Benoit Clement PMI-PMP; ISA-CA; ISSP-SA Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

*Please reconsider your decisions. * *The consequences of this decision will impact the entire Internet for many years, and registrars need to ensure that our customers are not harmed by the unilateral decisions made by ICANN staff.* -- - Benoît Clément *+1 (541) 973 - 6453* *Environmental Operations Manager & Consultant <https://www.linkedin.com/in/benoit-e-clement/>* *~ Integration, change optimization, and regeneration.* <https://www.linkedin.com/in/benoit-e-clement/>

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[Comments-com-amendment-3-03jan20] Increased fees?
by Judson Bartels Feb. 11, 2020

Feb. 11, 2020

We want to let you know we do not like the secret deals made to increase fees for the .com domains in the deal with Verisign. These fee increases are unnecessary and hurt the online community. There is already plenty of margin in the pricing. Make the increases fair and only when necessary. Judson Bartels Lead Pastor www.SoundChurch.tv 425-835-2267 http://about.me/judsonb Sent from my iPhone

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