Just saw this... sorry that is the way I read my email (back to front... it is a down under thing...)! My email still stands. I think the language needs to be included in Chuck's motion. Oh, I also think something needs to be said about the WG itself. We spent far too many hours recently debating the sending of an interim report to the Board. I suggested at the time that we should just call the report final as there was no way that consensus was going to be reached. I suggested in Brussels that consensus would not be reached. We didn't. Is what we have now any more advanced than at that point? Whilst we should be applauding all their hard work etc etc I think it is a flaw in the chairs to have allowed this to continue on without recognizing the end result was not going to change. I get that this will cause me some flak as no one is allowed to criticize anyone in the whole ICANN world but I still think this is a failure of the WG. Valuable time was waste in the pursuit of an unreachable goal. If we don't do debriefs of each WG as a Council we certainly should start. How do we expect to learn and grow? We certainly debrief regularly within our organization and the benefits are clearly visible. Thanks. Adrian Kinderis -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:56 AM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] FW: Notice To GNSO Council with regard to the Board Resolution addressing Vertical Integration Please note the following communication from the co-chairs of the VI PDP WG. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike@haven2.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:12 AM To: Gomes, Chuck Cc: Roberto Gaetano Subject: Notice To GNSO Council with regard to the Board Resolution addressing Vertical Integration To: GNSO Council From: Roberto Gaetano and Mikey O'Connor (VI working-group co-chairs) Subject: Notice with regard to the Board Resolution addressing Vertical Integration ____ In response to Section 2.11 (Vertical Integration) of the 25 September 2010 resolution by the ICANN Board, we would like to notify the GNSO Council that to date the Working Group has not reached a consensus view on vertical integration. We plan to incorporate public comments into the Interim Report and provide the Council with a Final Report in advance of the Council's 18 November meeting.