30 Apr
2013
30 Apr
'13
10:04 a.m.
Option 1 and UTC seems to be the best solution of two that's not (and likely cannot be) perfect for everyone. Best, Petter -- Petter Rindforth, LL M Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: <petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> <http://www.fenixlegal.eu/> NOTICE This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, <http://www.fenixlegal.eu/> Thank you On 30 apr 2013 17:50 "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@afilias.info> wrote: > Right, so we seem to be settling on option 1, a fixed time zone. > Just need to settle on which - UTC or PST and then we can put it out > for > standard comment. > I think UTC since so much of our communication still refers to this at > least. > Given our meetings are at variable times, it should be approximately > fair > overall. > Jonathan > -----Original Message----- > From: Volker Greimann [mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net] > Sent: 30 April 2013 15:29 > To: Wendy Seltzer > Cc: WUKnoben; jrobinson@afilias.info; 'Zahid Jamil'; 'Marika Konings'; > <council@gnso.icann.org> > Subject: Re: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures > I agree, Option 2 would complicate things too much. I thought that for > 24:00 where the sender is located might work too, but a tough deadline > would > be the clearer option. > Volker > > Hi, > > Since I proposed the reconfiguration to give people the clearest > > notice of when motions were due, I'd recommend option 1. I recognize > > that the amount of time wouldn't be quite the same from month to > > month, but the deadline would be fixed. (I preferred 8 calendar > > days, > > but 10 is a fine > > compromise.) > > --Wendy > > On 04/29/2013 03:02 PM, WUKnoben wrote: > > > We vary the meeting times to balance the incommodities as best as > > > possible. I think its consequent to vary the motion deadlines with > > > the meeting times, too (option #2). > > > The deadlines can be published with the meeting calendar in > > > addition > > > to every single reminder. > > > Best regards > > > Wolf-Ulrich > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Jonathan Robinson > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:31 PM > > > To: 'Zahid Jamil' ; 'Volker Greimann' > > > Cc: 'Wendy Seltzer' ; 'Marika Konings' ; <council@gnso.icann.org> > > > Subject: RE: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures > > > All, > > > I'd like to close this off and move to posting it for public > > > comment. > > > My understanding is that we are agreed on 10 calendar days as this > > > is > > > global and meets what was originally intended. > > > As far as a time-zone is concerned, we have two options: > > > 1. Choose a fixed time zone in which the 23h59 cut-off occurs. > > > There > > > is no universally fair time zone to use for a global audience but > > > UTC > > > seems as close to a standard as we have. > > > PST provides for a later sunset but is arguably less of a standard > > > than UTC. > > > OR > > > 2. Agree that the cut-off is 10 calendar days (exactly) before the > > > meeting occurs. This will mean that the time of the cut-off varies > > > on a per meeting basis. > > > This is probably most fair but could lead to confusion since it > > > varies on a per meeting basis. > > > Still, as long as the cut-off time is sent as part of the reminder > > > in > > > calling for motions, it seems reasonable. > > > Any comments or inputs, please provide them ASAP before we move to > > > public comment. > > > Thanks, > > > Jonathan > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: <owner-council@gnso.icann.org> > > > [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Zahid Jamil > > > Sent: 23 April 2013 14:47 > > > To: Volker Greimann > > > Cc: Jonathan Robinson; Wendy Seltzer; Marika Konings; > > > <council@gnso.icann.org> > > > Subject: Re: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures > > > How about using 23:59 PST as the deadline? > > > Best regards, > > > Zahid Jamil > > > Barrister-at-law > > > Jamil & Jamil > > > Barristers-at-law > > > 219-221 Central Hotel Annexe > > > Merewether Road, Karachi. Pakistan > > > Cell: +923008238230 > > > Tel: +92 21 35680760 / 35685276 / 35655025 > > > Fax: +92 21 35655026 > > > <http://www.jamilandjamil.com/> > > > Notice / Disclaimer > > > This message contains confidential information and its contents > > > are > > > being communicated only for the intended recipients . If you are > > > not > > > the intended recipient you should not disseminate, distribute or > > > copy > this e-mail. > > > Please > > > notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this > > > message by mistake and delete it from your system. The contents > > > above > > > may contain/are the intellectual property of Jamil & Jamil, > > > Barristers-at-Law, and constitute privileged information protected > > > by > > > attorney client privilege. > > > The reproduction, publication, use, amendment, modification of any > > > kind whatsoever of any part or parts (including photocopying or > > > storing it in any medium by electronic means whether or not > > > transiently or incidentally or some other use of this > > > communication) > > > without prior written permission and consent of Jamil & Jamil is > > > prohibited. > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 23 Apr 2013, at 16:45, Volker Greimann > > > <vgreimann@key-systems.net> > > > wrote: > > > > While I support this in general, I am not sure we really need > > > > such a > > > policy. The proposed language cuts the time available for bringing > > > motions short for our American councillors compared to right now. > > > > Volker > > > > > I support Wendy's language. > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > Zahid Jamil > > > > > Barrister-at-law > > > > > Jamil & Jamil > > > > > Barristers-at-law > > > > > 219-221 Central Hotel Annexe > > > > > Merewether Road, Karachi. Pakistan > > > > > Cell: +923008238230 > > > > > Tel: +92 21 35680760 / 35685276 / 35655025 > > > > > Fax: +92 21 35655026 > > > > > <http://www.jamilandjamil.com/> > > > > > Notice / Disclaimer > > > > > This message contains confidential information and its > > > > > contents are > > > > > being > > > communicated only for the intended recipients . If you are not the > > > intended recipient you should not disseminate, distribute or copy > > > this > e-mail. > > > Please > > > notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this > > > message by mistake and delete it from your system. 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