I remember those days. Those were also the days the constituencies had to pay membership dues to be part of the DNSO. Some things are worth remembering...others not so much :) Sent with Good (www.good.com) -----Original Message----- From: "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" [mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de] Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 04:46 AM Eastern Standard Time To: William Drake; GNSO Council List Subject: AW: AW: [council] GNSO Website I support all points, raise by Bill. Here is another proposal: What about a section "History of the GNSO"? Only a small number of people recalls the DNSO (from 1999) - which included both ccTLD and gTLD constituencies and the reasons why the DNSO was split and how the new (now existing) structure emerged. Just one example: How many remember the fight for an INDO (Individual Domain Name Holder Constituency) by Joop Teernstra? Worth to remember? Wolfgang ________________________________ Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org im Auftrag von William Drake Gesendet: Mo 28.05.2012 10:17 An: GNSO Council List Betreff: Re: AW: [council] GNSO Website On May 28, 2012, at 8:59 AM, <KnobenW@telekom.de> <KnobenW@telekom.de> wrote: Even your picture looks so fresh, Stéphane... I find it kind of scary, but then as a small child I was afraid of clowns...[kidding] The site is of course an improvement, many thanks. At the same time, one could argue some further tweaks might be merited. Just off the top of my head over morning coffee, a few thoughts for consideration: 1. Looking at the descriptions of the SGs and constituencies, one can't help note that there significant asymmetries in style and substance. Some don't really tell the visitor much about about what the group in question actually does or what its driving priorities are. Perhaps it'd make sense to have those groups do their own texts within some defined patterns for conformity? 2. I also wonder why only two of four have behavioral standards listed: for Rgy these are: "The behavioral expectations of all RySG members, Interest Groups and participants include adhering to ICANN Bylaws and Policies; supporting the consensus model; treating others with dignity, respect, courtesy, and civility; listening attentively to understand others; acting with honesty, sincerity, and integrity; and maintaining community good standing." NGSC is apparently singularly in need enough to require an enumerated list: The NCSG is committed to the following: * Nondiscriminatory and impartial application of rules. * Transparency * Service standards for elected officers. * Standards of member behavior. * Equality of participation. * Encourage Consensus. No similar language for Rgr or CSG. As the same standards should be applicable to all groups, why not list these once at http://gnso.icann.org/about/stakeholder-groups.htm and focus the remaining texts on descriptions provided by the groups themselves? 3. While the other three SGs follow a pictorial template of ExCom, Councilors, NGSG's is an odd mishmash that intermingles the two in a single column, apparently to additionally show internal details like committee assignments. Not clear that's necessary and we couldn't be organized like the others. 4. NCUC's page is out of date, as Konstantinos has stepped down as chair since he took a job with ISOC. Our Interim Chair is now David Cake. And the correct URL to point to is www.ncuc.org <http://www.ncuc.org/> 5. The how to participate page http://gnso.icann.org/about/participation.htm could start off by being clearer about joining a constituency/SG as logical and preferred starting point, with links to how. The link on how to form a new one could be grouped with that. The only mention of the GA is as a listserv at http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/index.htm. Perhaps understandable given the prevalence of troll content etc, but it does exist and one can't help wondering whether it should be left in its current state. 6. Would it be useful to have dedicated spaces on the home page for total newbies that lead to a step by step walk through of GNSO, how it fits in ICANN, how PDPs work, "so you're attending your first ICANN meeting," etc? Similarly, and further to the diffuse outreach discussions going on in various places, perhaps something similar related to people for developing countries who want to know more and might want to participant could be useful... Just a few cents, Cheers Bill