Thanks All, Personally, I can see no reason to use such words. That symbolic detail aside, this does throw up some critical points about how we engage with this work. I have a call planned this week to talk one-to-one with Beth Novek in order to give some feedback. Ill obviously take into account any input from the Council. In addition, the Council needs to think about any other feedback, responses or engagement with the work of this panel. Jonathan From: Gabriela Szlak [mailto:gabrielaszlak@gmail.com] Sent: 03 February 2014 17:46 To: Maria Farrell Cc: John Berard; Jonathan Robinson; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] About Designing a 21st Century ICANN ... And bear in mind that the purpose - in their own words is- : · Proposing new models for broad, inclusive engagement, consensus-based policymaking and institutional structures to support such enhanced functions; and · Designing processes, tools and platforms that enable a global ICANN community to engage in these new forms of participatory decision-making Google translator cannot even translate those two words... it feels really strange to talk about global engagement and participatory processes only in English and in a an English that it seems also complex for english speakers to get... G. Gabriela Szlak Skype: gabrielaszlak Twitter: @GabiSzlak La información contenida en este e-mail es confidencial. The information in this e-mail is confidential. 2014-02-03 Maria Farrell <maria.farrell@gmail.com>: Goodness, I also nearly snorted my coffee but held it down long enough to look up 'scylla' and 'charybdis'. I was chagrinned to learn these new (to me) words were first used in the ICANN context by the beloved Norwegian Harald Alvestrand back in 2002, a few reform movements back. Who knew? "The current ICANN has attempted to chart a course between the scylla of doing nothing and the charybdis of doing everything;" http://www.alvestrand.no/icann/icann_reform.html On 3 February 2014 17:23, <john@crediblecontext.com> wrote: Jonathan, My coffee came through my nose this morning when I read the blueprint from the multistakeholder strategy panel. But, while language like this: "engaging people in meaningful and productive conversations about how to redesign the way ICANN runs itself is difficult because the conversation gets caught, on the one hand, between the scylla of broad generalities and geopolitics without regard to the specifics of ICANNs day-to-day work, and the charybdis of mind-numbing technical detail on the other" is a bit overblown, it also works as mis-direction. There is no argument but that generalities, geopolitics and technical detail are a part of ICANN's life, but I would argue with "broad" and "mind-numbing." That kind of language tips the player's hand. Further, by pegging effectiveness to the use of expert networks and linking legitimacy to crowdsourcing at each stage of decision making may only hint at the future shape of ICANN but it is clear in its view that the current version is no longer appetizing. I will likely think hard about that as I pack for the trip to Singapore. Cheers, Berard --------- Original Message --------- Subject: [council] FW: Stage 2 Begins: Designing a 21st Century ICANN From: "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@afilias.info> Date: 2/3/14 1:12 am To: council@gnso.icann.org Stage 2 Begins: Designing a 21st Century ICANN From: The ICANN Strategy Panel on Multistakeholder Innovation & The GovLab [mailto:icannmsipanel@thegovlab.org] Sent: 31 January 2014 19:01 To: jrobinson@afilias.info Subject: Stage 2 Begins: Designing a 21st Century ICANN <https://gallery.mailchimp.com/1a990feb5c/images/logo_icann_ideascale_3_.png
Hello! By engaging the stakeholders of the Internet (this really includes everyone!), the ICANN Strategy Panel on Multistakeholder Innovation ( <http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=9e 2fe95b04&e=32eced4cfd> the MSI Panel) and The Governance Lab @ NYU ( <http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=d 1a6e896d6&e=32eced4cfd> The GovLab) are working to develop a set of concrete proposals for designing the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) the public interest organization responsible for coordinating the Internets Domain Name System (DNS) for the 21st Century. Were writing to request your participation in this important initiative and to help us spread the word! Today launches Stage 2 Proposal Development of our online engagement effort aimed at getting your input into the Panels work in order to bring our ideas for evolving ICANN from principle to practice. The Panel has been specifically charged by ICANNs President and CEO with: · Proposing new models for international engagement, consensus-driven policymaking and institutional structures to support such enhanced functions; and · Designing processes, tools and platforms that enable the global ICANN community to engage in these new forms of participatory decision-making. To answer this charter, we launched a three-stage brainstorm initiative on November 19, 2013. We started with Stage 1: Idea Generation. The Panel and GovLab launched an <http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=4 9575264ee&e=32eced4cfd> engagement platform asking the global public to share their ideas for what techniques, strategies, tools and platforms ICANN could look to and learn from to help transform itself into an effective, legitimate and evolving 21st century global organization. We now want to take these ideas closer to implementation during Stage 2. To do so, weve shared the <http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=b 31cd77527&e=32eced4cfd> draft proposal blueprint on the GovLab Blog organizing all of our ideas into 16 concrete proposals for ICANN, which we are opening up to you for discussion. We want your feedback, input, comments, questions, and suggestions on what weve collected. Weve also published our first set of proposals, which include recommendations for ICANN to: * <http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=c8 d26b0537&e=32eced4cfd> Leverage expert networking; * <http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=78 cb16e898&e=32eced4cfd> Use crowdsourcing during all phases of decisionmaking; and * <http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=75 796fa362&e=32eced4cfd> Crowdsource oversight and develop standards to measure success. Feel free to provide feedback or reactions using comments or the line-by-line annotation tools enabled on the blog. You can also see all of these materials aggregated on the GovLab's ICANN project page, online <http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=e6 06d3f2d6&e=32eced4cfd> HERE. Help us spread the word! Do you know any people or organizations who would be interested in these proposal topics? Wed love to get their feedback, too. Consider doing any of the following: · Forward this Call To Action to colleagues and organizations you know working in these areas who may have ideas or feedback to share on the blog. · Share our proposal draft links (all accessible <http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=16 6e90c780&e=32eced4cfd> here), as widely as possible within your networks (e.g., via mailing lists and listservs). 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